CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

[ColdHands]

Lots of searching and very little is coming up. In the cases I can find with older teens most had the parent hiding with the kid.

But here's an older case I found. This is a 14 year old girl that was taken by her father, driven an hour away and left with his mother for two weeks in 1997. There is no indication that the girl or the grandmother ever contacted anyone. This does predate cell phones but in 1997 most people would have had landlines and most teens would have had phone numbers memorized. IMO

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-07-09/news/9707090235_1_abduction-father-brown

There aren't any details that I could find. The dad ran and I can't find that they ever caught him. There's no indication that the grandmother was ever charged.

This is not intended to be a one-to-one comparison of Dylan's case, but it shows that it is not impossible.

I'm not discarding this theory, because #1-MR has tried this before #2-the family thinks it is possible and #3-I'd like to keep some hope that Dylan is alive. I think this theory relies heavily on the receiving person to be able to control the situation with Dylan. I think it is less necessary to assume that MR feels the need to stay in contact with the receiving person, if it is someone he trusts.

 

[asyousay]

I'd guess those people know him a heck of a lot better than any of us....watching this play out from a puter srceen

just sayin'



:twocents:

Exactly.


This is not a witch hunt to get Mark.

Why on earth would his own flesh and blood want him to be guilty ?!

 

[SCHMAE]

I'm betting they will not all be on stage at the same time. Some may even be from the ' control room' or whatever they call it when they speak with one on a screen who is in another part of the building. Maybe he brings out MR , talks a bit, then ER comes out alone and talks a bit and maybe they are never jointly speaking to the host at the same time!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm hoping that Brandon will be a voice of reason so it doesn't end up looking like a Jerry Springer show in disguise. MOO

Come one...a Jerry Springer show? I've never seen any Dr Phil show even remotely look like a Jerry Springer show.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Funny, I don't see it as a three against one type of thing. Hopefully it will be a Dr Phil show not a three against one show. Dr Phil will run the show not the three of them. I have never seen Dr Phil not be fair to all of his guests. But he does see through BS quite well. I have no doubt that if he saw BS coming from Cory or Elaine he wouldn't hesitate to call them on it. I don't see that Dr Phil has any personal investment in MR being guilty any more than the three other guests.

I don't care for DR Phil at all but that's just me. I still think that it will be three against one because I don't see Elaine and his sons coming out saying anything good about Mark. I think that the opposite is much more likely. MOO.

 

[Tonto]

I wouldn't go on Dr. Phil with those two even if I were innocent - especially alone and without support and/or counsel. MR's doing so gives me the impression that he has nothing to hide and is, as he has always said, willing to put up with the array of unfounded accusations from misguided folks if it means getting the focus off of him and finding out who took Dylan.

Again, I personally wouldn't give the mob the satisfaction of thinking they successfully bullied me into going on the show. God only knows what they'll try after he goes on the show, maintains his composure - again, implores his innocence - again, states the same story - again, and relays it with substantial grief and concern - again.

Maybe they should throw him in the water next. If he floats he is guilty, if he sinks he is innocent.

 

[Eileen730]

Funny, I don't see it as a three against one type of thing. Hopefully it will be a Dr Phil show not a three against one show. Dr Phil will run the show not the three of them. I have never seen Dr Phil not be fair to all of his guests. But he does see through BS quite well. I have no doubt that if he saw BS coming from Cory or Elaine he wouldn't hesitate to call them on it. I don't see that Dr Phil has any personal investment in MR being guilty any more than the three other guests.

Mark's other son, Brandon, is going to be on the show. Maybe I am mistaken but I thought it was said that Brandon believes Mark is involved...or at least, I don't think he has defended him.

I think Brandon is going to be there because he was there the days al this was going on. He was there and can verify these things It was Mark, Cory and Brandon. This way it stays true!
He can aslo give another point of view to this situation another son from another marriage! JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Exactly.


This is not a witch hunt to get Mark.

Why on earth would his own flesh and blood want him to be guilty ?!

BBM
I'm not sure that the word "want" would be accurate. My choice would be believe him to be guilty. MOO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I wouldn't go on Dr. Phil with those two even if I were innocent - especially alone and without support and/or counsel. MR's doing so gives me the impression that he has nothing to hide and is, as he has always said, willing to put up with the array of unfounded accusations from misguided folks if it means getting the focus off of him and finding out who took Dylan.

Again, I personally wouldn't give the mob the satisfaction of thinking they successfully bullied me into going on the show. God only knows what they'll try after he goes on the show, maintains his composure - again, implores his innocence - again, states the same story - again, and relays it with substantial grief and concern - again.

Maybe they should throw him in the water next. If he floats he is guilty, if he sinks he is innocent.

BBM

Personally, I have not seen this.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

You would assume it would be because he deserves what? You don't think MR's 2 older sons have a brain and can put two and two together for themselves? Obviously Brandon has not been coerced by Elaine. That isn't even her son and it's my understanding that they barely know each other.

I'm not trying to insult anyone. I think that Mark's sons can believe he's guilty of Dylan's disappearance without disparaging them. MOO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

BBM
I'm not sure that the word "want" would be accurate. My choice would be believe him to be guilty. MOO.

So what else are they supposed to do if they genuinely BELIEVE him to be guilty? Lie? Cover up for him? What? What should they be doing if they believe him to be guilty?

 

[Tonto]

BBM

Personally, I have not seen this.

We see what we want to see, IMO. We can do it with bias and 'gut feelings', or we can train ourselves to be objective.

 

[Eileen730]

I wouldn't go on Dr. Phil with those two even if I were innocent - especially alone and without support and/or counsel. MR's doing so gives me the impression that he has nothing to hide and is, as he has always said, willing to put up with the array of unfounded accusations from misguided folks if it means getting the focus off of him and finding out who took Dylan.

Again, I personally wouldn't give the mob the satisfaction of thinking they successfully bullied me into going on the show. God only knows what they'll try after he goes on the show, maintains his composure - again, implores his innocence - again, states the same story - again, and relays it with substantial grief and concern - again.

Maybe they should throw him in the water next. If he floats he is guilty, if he sinks he is innocent.

If you turned off the sound on his media interviews you would not know
he was talking about his missing son. I have not seen GRIEF or Concern!
I have not seen pani,c rage ,something, or anything. JMO He only cries when he talks about baseball.

 

[mck16]

There will be a son from a previous marriage on the show, as well as ER and CR.

Why? What has he got to do with this? tia

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

We see what we want to see, IMO. We can do it with bias and 'gut feelings', or we can train ourselves to be objective.

I believe myself to be very intelligent and objective. So now what?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Why? What has he got to do with this? tia

It is my understand that this son and Cory sat down in a quiet room and spoke with MR shortly after he went missing. I believe that this son also spent some time with MR during those first weeks that Dylan was missing.

 

[azgrandma]

Just a question for everyone...Do you think that Dr. Phil will ask "tough" questions? Will he grill Mark? That seems to be the wish of many on the FB pages. I guess it's up to the producers, and for all we know, they might think Mark isn't involved. Also, I feel like there's a difference between Dr. Phil "confronting" some drug addict who has stolen money from his family and "confronting" the father of a missing child. But, the fact that there will be three people on the "Mark is guilty" side, and no one else on the show besides Mark to proclaim his innocence, makes me think there will be a lot of confrontation on it.

IMO - Dr Phil will ask the tough questions of both parents. Their answers (IMO) to those questions will determine if he "grills" MR or ER. I don't believe that he will go with what random people on fb want or wish. There will be people on ER's side from what we have heard, but we have not heard one way or the other if there are people on MR's side. I guess we will have to see.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

IMO - Dr Phil will ask the tough questions of both parents. Their answers (IMO) to those questions will determine if he "grills" MR or ER. I don't believe that he will go with what random people on fb want or wish. There will be people on ER's side from what we have heard, but we have not heard one way or the other if there are people on MR's side. I guess we will have to see.

Thank you. And I was just going to add that to my knowledge Brandon has said nothing publicly as to whether or not he feels MR is involved. So for all we know he might be going to support MR.

 

[scorekeeper]

If you turned off the sound on his media interviews you would not know
he was talking about his missing son. I have not seen GRIEF or Concern!
I have not seen pani,c rage ,something, or anything. JMO He only cries when he talks about baseball.

BBM

There's no crying in baseball!!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Confusion]

BBM

There's no crying in baseball!!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Tell that to Twins fans! :floorlaugh: