CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

[SCHMAE]

I did not know that he went to MR's, was taking your word for it, lol.

Crikey, don't do that . I never look at links, ahahaha.
Now we'll both get a TO for spreading rumors

 

[SCHMAE]

Did they meet at MR's house? For some reason I was under the impression that the meeting with MR's sons and brother took place at the police station? I don't know? I don't think we have seen it reported just where that meeting took place, have we?

Salem

You know that you mention the brothers' that does sound right. I guess
we gotta go find a link

 

[TxJan1971]

Here are the various MSM statements about Monday morning before MR left for his errands:

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/-1/news01&source=RSS

Mark Redwine said he was going to give Dylan a ride to his friends’ house and tried to wake him up when he left Monday morning but said Dylan was “out like a light.”

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ement-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away-

The next morning, Dad says at about 7:30 AM, Dylan was still asleep there on the couch. He`d had a bed made up for him there. He said Dylan apparently wanted to sleep in, so dad left, went to go run some errands.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

“He was sleeping on the couch, and I told him I had to go about my errands,” Mark Redwine said in a Sunday telephone interview. “He said, ‘OK, I understand.’ The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html

AND the latest:

You know, I spent 45 minutes… an hour… trying to get Dylan to wake up and, you know, and helping him… saying, you know, “Dylan, I’m going down,” ‘cos he had talked to me about going to see his friend, Ryan …that morning, but he wasn’t having no part of it… which is not uncommon for him. I mean, you can’t get him to bed and you can’t get him up. Pretty much how it is when he’s not at school to deal with, which is most of the time when he’s up here, although he had a school bus stop right down the street, so he could ride the bus from the school up here if I was home, or he could ride it to his mom’s house, which was a thing of beauty because her and I didn’t have to deal with transporting him.

Melissa Blasius Uncut Interview w/ MR

 

[Ronald99]

I still don't think he's hired a criminal attorney.
All of his talking the last few weeks solidifies my
position on that. If he does have one, his attorney is
LAME or he's ignoring his advice !

Yes he's hired a criminal attorney, it was shortly after the initial interview with investigators, Theirs articles out there confirming this, Where limited on what were able to post here to remain within the TOS requirements.

 

[SCHMAE]

'''While Mark Redwine hasn’t spoken to his ex-wife, they traded a few text messages Friday, he said.

He has also met with his other son with Elaine Redwine, Cory, 21, and a son from another marriage, XXXXXX ( for grandma) , from Arizona.

“We all met together in a private room and sat down and talked. I haven’t heard from Cory for three days,” Mark Redwine said. “I think he’s struggling like we all are. I know he’s closer to his brother and to his mom than to me. We were trying to get our emotions out on the table and focus on finding Dylan.”'''



Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2LAtbVuCr


Dec . 3 , article date was a monday, so 2 weeks after DR disappeared.

 

[SCHMAE]

Ok TWO points of interest in that article. Some may fly in the face of some of the things we've been throwing around as ' absolutel ' facts.
A) MR and ER traded a few ' TEXTS" on Friday. No mention that they were hostile and according to MR he DID respond to some of them at least, if they 'traded' a few !!!!!!!!!

B ) Cory has not spoken to MR in 3 days. Was this the first 3 days AFTER meeting with MR? Like did CR's hinky meter go berserk post meeting with MR?

UGH,, make it stop !

 

[SCHMAE]

Here are the various MSM statements about Monday morning before MR left for his errands:

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/-1/news01&source=RSS

Mark Redwine said he was going to give Dylan a ride to his friends’ house and tried to wake him up when he left Monday morning but said Dylan was “out like a light.”

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ement-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away-

The next morning, Dad says at about 7:30 AM, Dylan was still asleep there on the couch. He`d had a bed made up for him there. He said Dylan apparently wanted to sleep in, so dad left, went to go run some errands.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

“He was sleeping on the couch, and I told him I had to go about my errands,” Mark Redwine said in a Sunday telephone interview. “He said, ‘OK, I understand.’ The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html

Dont forget the last one where 45 min to 1 hr would not wake up DR

 

[SCHMAE]

Did they meet at MR's house? For some reason I was under the impression that the meeting with MR's sons and brother took place at the police station? I don't know? I don't think we have seen it reported just where that meeting took place, have we?

Salem

There you go Boss, the location ' a quiet room' !

 

[Salem]

Yes he's hired a criminal attorney, it was shortly after the initial interview with investigators, Theirs articles out there confirming this, Where limited on what were able to post here to remain within the TOS requirements.

You may link to any main stream media (MSM) article and any report from LE.

If this is a rumor from facebook, it cannot be discussed here.

If I remember correctly - MSM said that MR "consulted" with an attorney but I don't remember seeing anything that said he actually hired one. We would all be interested in that, if there is a valid link.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[Ronald99]

I still don't think he's hired a criminal attorney.
All of his talking the last few weeks solidifies my
position on that. If he does have one, his attorney is
LAME or he's ignoring his advice !

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder

(And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that. And he said he is helping in the search in any way he can.)

 

[catswhiskers]

Yes he's hired a criminal attorney, it was shortly after the initial interview with investigators, Theirs articles out there confirming this, Where limited on what were able to post here to remain within the TOS requirements.

If there are articles in MSM out there we are able to link them. If the info is just from fb users who are able to make claims without any reprisals, then no ... not proof at all.

IIRC MR himself was supposed to have mentioned having a discussion with an attorney - probably soon after he was first implicated publicly IMO.

 

[TxJan1971]

Dr Phil is primarily an entertainer of sorts now. I would think the best thing to come out of appearing on his show is getting huge exposure for Dylan across the country. I also imagine Dr Phil would be aiming to get the family talking together and overcoming some big hurdles in that department. They are the big positives IMO. However, I'm not sure why anyone would be thinking that he is about to crack the case? Dr Phil is not LE, nor should he be interrogating anyone, but that seems to be what some seem to be gleefully awaiting - the notion that MR will meet his match?

I agree with the majority of your post and I'm "all for it" for the media exposure primarily. IF Dr. Phil can help mend some of the family dynamics, that would just be an added bonus. I'm not counting on it, but even if he's able to tear down 1 or 2 bricks, that would at least be a starting point for the family. As far as expecting him to crack the case, not gonna' happen in my opinion.

 

[Eileen730]

Here are the various MSM statements about Monday morning before MR left for his errands:

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/-1/news01&source=RSS

Mark Redwine said he was going to give Dylan a ride to his friends’ house and tried to wake him up when he left Monday morning but said Dylan was “out like a light.”

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ement-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away-

The next morning, Dad says at about 7:30 AM, Dylan was still asleep there on the couch. He`d had a bed made up for him there. He said Dylan apparently wanted to sleep in, so dad left, went to go run some errands.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

“He was sleeping on the couch, and I told him I had to go about my errands,” Mark Redwine said in a Sunday telephone interview. “He said, ‘OK, I understand.’ The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html

The Ï Understand" seems strange to me. My kids would have said something like OK OK or I know I know! Or I hear ya let me sleep. Not I understand.

That was just something that caught my attentiion.
And all just MY own thoughts!

 

[Eileen730]

I think the only real reason they are doing DR. Phill is so Elaine can actually sit down with MR and talk to him! She needs this! Cory needs this. This is also a controlled environment with someone there to mediate. I think its an excelent idea. I do not think its being done for entertainment but to possibly get some answeres to her many questions. It can only help!
Hopefully it will have a positive effect!


JMO

 

[TxJan1971]

Dont forget the last one where 45 min to 1 hr would not wake up DR

Thanks. I added it up above and updated my TL.

 

[Eileen730]

If there are articles in MSM out there we are able to link them. If the info is just from fb users who are able to make claims without any reprisals, then no ... not proof at all.

IIRC MR himself was supposed to have mentioned having a discussion with an attorney - probably soon after he was first implicated publicly IMO.

I think he has a lwayer also, he would be a fool not to. BE he innocent or guilty I think the man needs a lawyer!

 

[cluciano63]

The only way that appearing on Dr. Phil can possibly help is if one believes that Dylan is alive and out there where he might be seen. I am not one who believes that, but that does not mean it is impossible, I guess.

I suppose there is even a more remote chance that someone watching may have been in the area on that day and is just hearing about this for the first time, and has information. Very, very remote, IMO.

My fear is that the show, if it airs, will only reinforce the idea that this is nothing more than an extreme custodial issue and that one parent is "hiding" Dylan from the other. (An idea that I give no credit to, personally.)

 

[TxLady2]

I don't remember where at the moment so I can't vouch for the accuracy, but I'm sure I read that prior to ER moving to Colorado Springs, they shared joint custody. I will see if I can find it somewhere. All MOO

ETA: ER's statement on NG:

REDWINE: Yes. I mean, I just don`t think -- you know, we had joint parenting time. And because, you know, Mark had to earn a living and we live in a small community, he was on the road a lot. So he didn`t spend a lot of time with Dylan in the three years prior to Dylan moving to Colorado Springs. So I just don`t think he knew Dylan all that well.

Jumping off your post. I don't think CO has alimony, but not positive. My husband's ex lives there and they had kids who are now grown. All he was ordered to pay was child support.

If they had joint custody, I can't understand why either one of them would be paying the other child support, unless he had Dylan with him more than she did. CO may look at joint custody different than other states but to me, joint means they have the child equal time... say 2 weeks at one parent's and 2 weeks with the other, and alternate holidays.

Maybe it was shared custody, and he was the primary custodian? IDK, but I can't feature the court making HER pay HIM child support unless she did not have primary custody at the time.

When my husband's daughter came to live with us, there was no child support either way for the few years she was here, because the son stayed with his mother, so the court said one cancelled out the other... they did not order her to pay him child support, and they suspended the child support he was paying her for the son. And btw, they live in CO, too.

Maybe this is what the court battles have been about, the custody and child support. I still don't get why she would have had to pay him, or why she wouldn't have had primary custody, since he was on the road so much. Something does not add up! This could shed a whole new light on the situation.

 

[catswhiskers]

The Ï Understand" seems strange to me. My kids would have said something like OK OK or I know I know! Or I hear ya let me sleep. Not I understand.

That was just something that caught my attentiion.
And all just MY own thoughts!

Now I just interpreted that as MR's paraphrasing of Dylan's response. I have similar conversations with groggy uncooperative teens here all the time!

Me: OK , I'm off to the shops now. I want you to clean your room while I'm gone."
No response ...
Me: I mean it - this room had better be tidy by the time I get back! Do you understand?
Grumpy teen hiding under blankets : YES!

MOE (my own experience!)

 

[SCHMAE]

Yes he's hired a criminal attorney, it was shortly after the initial interview with investigators, Theirs articles out there confirming this, Where limited on what were able to post here to remain within the TOS requirements.

Did he ? I only remember him saying he spoke or consulted with one to ' watch his back' . I never heard the word hire or retained and he does not act like a man who's under legal counsel at all.