CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[Tennlyn]

Was Dylan a well adjusted happy child, or was he a rebellious child that would become confrontational with his father if his father said that it was too late to visit friends? I'm reading that this well adjusted happy child was rebellious and angry at his father because he couldn't do what he wanted ... that doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense to me. At my house, my son was happy and well adjusted. At his father's house, he was rebellious and confrontational. Different parents and parenting styles meant different behaviors. :moo:

 

[nursebeeme]

Folks, we have allowed the discussion of Dylan's father in this case because there are a lot of questions surrounding Dylan's disappearance and he was the last person known to see him prior to his disappeance.

We do not know what happened to Dylan or who is responsible. It is not a foregone conclusion that MR is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

We are web sleuths and as web sleuths, we'd like to see any and all possibilities as to what may have happened to Dylan discussed here. Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

All reasonable theories and discussion of facts are welcome in this thread.

Please carry on and let's do what we do best.

Thank you.

:bump:

all opinions are allowed folks.

 

[katydid23]

If mom lectured him about hitch hiking, then she knew perfectly well he was thumbing rides.

I have discussed things with my kids that they are ' not doing.' Do you wait for your kid to have needle marks before you lecture them about hard drugs?

 

[otto]

This is just my speculation...but I doubt he had much respect for his Dad. The parents had gone through years of nasty custody/support battles and I'm sure Dylan was well aware of the battles. Dylan did not want to go on this visit. He wanted to spend Thanksgiving with his dying Grandmother. IMO he may have arrived with attitude. Teenagers can have attitude. I think he was only excited to see his friends.

If that's the case, that's truly unfortunate. Children have enough challenges growing up without having to hear about problems between divorced parents.

 

[ColdHands]

Sure would have made more sense to let Dylan stay at R's house that night imo. Why was it "too late" to go to his friends house when they were already in town? Why not pick Dylan up the next day since MR had to go to town anyway? Then they could have done the shopping that MR said was so important because town was so far away. Why make such a fuss over getting those groceries right then, when they would be heading back to town to take Dylan to R's house? Just does not add up.

I wonder what the road is like at night Durango to Bayfield and then Bayfield to Vallecito? I hate driving curvy mountain roads at night.

 

[otto]

I have discussed things with my kids that they are ' not doing.' Do you wait for your kid to have needle marks before you lecture them about hard drugs?

I wouldn't introduce the topic of hitch hiking with a 13 year old child unless there was a reason ... but that's just me.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I wouldn't introduce the topic of hitch hiking with a 13 year old child unless there was a reason ... but that's just me.
Some children are going to get the idea that it's an easy way to get around regardless of what parents say.

Maybe she knew about the snowstorm incident? Seems the boys didn't keep it a big secret.

 

[katydid23]

And also ER said that she lectured Dylan about hitchhiking before he came to his Dad's. Now why would she do that if she didn't think it could be a possibility?

Have you ever warned your kids about HIV, hard drugs, loaded guns or shoplifting? Do you have to assume they do any of those things to discuss them?

 

[jjenny]

I wouldn't introduce the topic of hitch hiking with a 13 year old child unless there was a reason ... but that's just me.

I very much doubt it. Parents are encouraged to talk to their teenagers about various topics. Such as drugs. Doesn't mean these teenagers are doing drugs, parents just encouraged to talk to them so they don't do these things.

 

[katydid23]

I wouldn't introduce the topic of hitch hiking with a 13 year old child unless there was a reason ... but that's just me.

Maybe they drove past a young hitchhiker? Maybe she heard about the library/snow storm incident.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

There is not a shred of anything to point to anyone.
Somehow I don't think Dylan just vanished into thin air.

Where is the evidence showing that he hitchhiked or that he was abducted?

If something happened outside the vehicle and outside the home and he was disposed of there where would there be evidence?

 

[katydid23]

If that's the case, that's truly unfortunate. Children have enough challenges growing up without having to hear about problems between divorced parents.

Dyan had just recently been taken into the court and the judges chambers to discuss the custody dispute. His testimony was sealed so we don't know what was said.

 

[Tennlyn]

If mom lectured him about hitch hiking, then she knew perfectly well he was thumbing rides.

Umm...I lectured my son about hitchhiking and to the best of my knowledge, he has never hitchhiked. It's sort of like the s-e-x talk. Best to give it before they ever do it, and then repeat often. :moo:

 

[otto]

I wonder what the road is like at night Durango to Bayfield and then Bayfield to Vallecito? I hate driving curvy mountain roads at night.

Dad had driven from the airport to Durango and then on to Vallecito. For him to first go to Bayfield and then home would add another 15 miles to the trip ... which reportedly would take about another 45 minutes. Dylan would have arrived around 9PM, which is pretty late for a 13 year old to be going for a visit.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Have you ever warned your kids about HIV, hard drugs, loaded guns or shoplifting? Do you have to assume they do any of those things to discuss them?

Well, maybe it's just me, but I've talked to my kids about everything. I think it's pretty important to warn them about stranger danger as well, but that doesn't mean I'm thinking they'll get abducted. Same way I warn them about unprotected sex and pregnancy, drugs, guns, gangs, don't pet stray dogs, don't drink and drive....I could go on :floorlaugh:

 

[The Cheese]

Well when he was discussing the events of that Monday he said he woke up from his nap and realized Dylan still had not texted and went to Tristan's house on the lake then went into Bayfield. That's what he said. Not me, him.

To me, that doesn't mean he didn't check anywhere else. It just means he didn't mention it in the interview, or he had a reason for checking elsewhere first when he did start checking or whatever. It's not a big deal to me. I don't take parent interviews for TV the same as police interrogations. I don't expect to hear every single little detail. Sure, I'd *like* to. *Love* to! lol. But I don't expect to.

 

[findDylan]

If, (and I don't believe he did), he went to hitchhike, he would have to of been walking in 25 - 30 degree weather in shorts, carrying a backpack, and fishing pole (if there really is one). He would be taking a huge risk that anyone would 1) stop to give him a ride (i do not belive many people pick up hutchhikers any more, even if they are kids kids) 2) that there would even be anyone driving in the direction he was going.

I also think someone would have remembered seeing him walking. Someone walking their dog or cleaning up the yard, or looking out the window while drinking coffee.

If, (and I don't believe he did this either), he went to the campground, he would once again been in shorts with a backpack and a fishing pole. I can't believe he would just sit in the cold at a campground to waste time.

Dylan is more of a "hang with his friends and family" type of kid. He was so excited to see his friends that he wanted to go over right after the flight. When he was told no, plans were changed to 6:30am the next day. He is an avid texter and I believe he would have tried to text, his friends and if the celk didnt work for whatever reason then i belive he would have used his iPod, tried the computer, or used the phone to get ahold of someone.

This is my opinion of things.

 

[Ronald99]

This is just my speculation...but I doubt he had much respect for his Dad. The parents had gone through years of nasty custody/support battles and I'm sure Dylan was well aware of the battles. Dylan did not want to go on this visit. He wanted to spend Thanksgiving with his dying Grandmother. IMO he may have arrived with attitude. Teenagers can have attitude. I think he was only excited to see his friends.

And it escalated that Sunday evening when the Father denied Dylan to spend the night with Ryan. The Text messages and the Father claiming he told Dylan after walmart and McDonald's contradict each other.

Dylan texted Ryan prior to Walmart and McDonald's he couldn't meet that night, Yet the Father claims in many statements he told Dylan it was to late after shopping and eating, and he would bring Dylan in the morning.

I firmly believe Law Enforcement is strongly looking at the Father as the cause of Dylan's disappearance.

 

[sarx]

okay.. I just put out the bat signal for Sarx and Oriah... hopefully one of them can come in and explain how independent SAR searches are run, etc and how they coordinate with LE if something is found, etc.

Just got in from being off the grid for a few days and saw your message. I will work on catching up now. In the meantime, if there are specific questions post them and I will do my best to answer in a timely fashion!

 

[otto]

Umm...I lectured my son about hitchhiking and to the best of my knowledge, he has never hitchhiked. It's sort of like the s-e-x talk. Best to give it before they ever do it, and then repeat often. :moo:

I discussed hitch hiking with my son about a month ago. He's 17. He has never hitch hiked but he heard from an older male that it was a perfectly good way for getting around. It had never crossed his mind before someone suggested that he try it. I asked him if it sounded like a good idea to get into a vehicle with a complete stranger.