CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #39

[findDylan]

I've only been following this case marginally, but am drawn to Dylan, as I have a son his age who also plays baseball and his sweet little face haunts me to think that he could just be gone from this earth-or worse yet, at the hands of his own father.

So I was wondering if any of you could clear up some questions I have as to whether or not Dylan could have gone missing by accident. I am thinking of a case here in Illinois just recently of a young man who left a party on a cold day and tried walking home but got lost, only to freeze to death in the woods, trying to take a short cut.

I was wondering if something similar had happened to Dylan. Is there any possible way that Dylan may have decided to just give up on waiting on his dad to come back to pick him up and just go out on his own that morning? Take his stuff, thinking he may end up spending the night at a friends house later that evening? How familiar was he with the area? Could he have tried to take a shortcut and gotten lost somewhere? I know he would have taken his phone, but maybe just forgot it, as my boys do all the time. I don't feel he would have taken a short cut. The area is pretty rough looking when I look at google maps. I think he would have been n the road if he actually left. They also didnt find his cell phone at MR's house. IMO

It just seems to me that Dylan was quite a spirited young boy, but certainly no baby. While I am sure that his father could have done him harm in a fit of rage, I would imagine that there would be some indication of a struggle. I know my 12 year old, also an athlete, could at least put up some kind of struggle. If it took place in the car, he would kick in the dash or something, scratch, punch, etc... I would like to think that Dylan could have at least put up some type of struggle at some point. If there was a struggle and things were messed up, depending on when the struggle happened, MR had tons of it e to clean up and make things look normal again. IMO

Also, have all of the other boys been ruled out as far as alibi's? I am not saying any of them would be suspects, but perhaps they met up to do something they weren't supposed to be doing and things went awry and are afraid to come forward? Just another thought.

I put my answers in red. It's all just my opinion.

 

[catswhiskers]

RUMOR ALERT

one of the locals is saying that A REVERSE 911 call was issued Monday night around 9 pm. Is there anyway to check this?

Mods please delete if needed

I read that too. IIRC the same person spoke about living within a mile of MR, and also said that no LE has ever door knocked at their home regarding Dylan. Seems very strange if that is really the case.

 

[MissJ]

RUMOR ALERT

one of the locals is saying that A REVERSE 911 call was issued Monday night around 9 pm. Is there anyway to check this?

Mods please delete if needed

I may be dumb but score could you tell me what a reverse 911 call is? TIA:rocker:

 

[SuperMom1995]

I am not sure. If in fact his phone stopped communicating on Sunday night, would that be proof that Dylan was "disappeared" Sunday night? I mean, enough to charge MR? Couldn't it also theoretically mean that his phone ceased working for good?(coincidental as that would be, in my view).

Now if that last text did not come from the house, that would be another issue, and should be enough to charge him, I would think, since he claimed they never left the house once they got there shortly after 8pm. That would make the whole evening a lie.

But I am not sure how specific the locale can be determined in such a rural area.

The fact that all activity stopped on his phone Sunday night, coupled with testimony from Mom and friends that he was an avid texter, plus text records from the phone company to show his frequency and history of texting might just be enough circumstantial to convince a jury of that.

 

[*Lash*]

I keep reading here at WS that Dylan would have needed to walk 20 miles to see his friend. I'm confused because the timeline on FMDR implies that the friend in reference lives 5.9 miles from Mark's house, not 20 miles.

Where is the 20 miles coming from?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/find-missing-dylan-redwine/updated-timeline/606722792687661

 

[katydid23]

So did he carry the body to the lake, which is what, 4 miles away? Did he drive the body to the lake? Would there be a scent in his truck if so?

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I think he had plenty of time to steam clean his truck. It was more than 10 days before it was looked at closely. And maybe D was never in there for long enough to put out any scent. The whole thing might have happened very fast.

 

[Ronald99]

Do you not think that with LE, CBI and the FBI involved that they have not done this?

I think it would be ludicrous to assume they haven't which is what appears to be going on with the GP. They are not giving any credit to LE for their expertise.

People are impatient and speculation and rumor are running rampant, leading to assumptions becoming facts or trying to make them fact.

I understand the impatience, but LE is not incompetent just because a arrest has not been made in this case. They have a lot of information that we don't.

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The early investigation was soley based on MR stating he left Dylan at 7:30 am Monday morning alone.
There's a lot of excelent Resources involved and manpower investigating this Missing Child Case.

There's been to many Red Flags concerning MR.
Personally i truly believe whatever caused Dylan's disappearance happened the prior Sunday night, and MR had plenty of time to figure his Monday afternoon notification to Elaine and Law Enforcement.

Had just a single credible person confirmed seeing Dylan Monday, Talking to Dylan Monday, or Dylan reaching out Monday to anyone, Then it would be possible Dylan's disappearance was caused by other means !!

 

[katydid23]

I keep reading here at WS that Dylan would have needed to walk 20 miles to see his friend. I'm confused because the timeline on FMDR implies that the friend in reference lives 5.9 miles from Mark's house, not 20 miles.

Where is the 20 miles coming from?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/find-missing-dylan-redwine/updated-timeline/606722792687661

The 2 friends that he was scheduled to go see lived 18 to 20 miles away in Bayfield. But he also had one friend that lived close by in Vallecito, and he lived 6 miles away.

 

[NC Analyzer]

The fact that all activity stopped on his phone Sunday night, coupled with testimony from Mom and friends that he was an avid texter, plus text records from the phone company to show his frequency and history of texting might just be enough circumstantial to convince a jury of that.

That would only be part of the equation...there are many, many other things that would be combined with that factor, and together, everything would paint a whole picture. :rocker:

 

[Eileen730]

I keep reading here at WS that Dylan would have needed to walk 20 miles to see his friend. I'm confused because the timeline on FMDR implies that the friend in reference lives 5.9 miles from Mark's house, not 20 miles.

Where is the 20 miles coming from?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/find-missing-dylan-redwine/updated-timeline/606722792687661

Ryan lived in Bayfield 18 to 20 miles away thats where he was going.
Not the other friend that MR went to that wasnt home.

 

[findDylan]

I keep reading here at WS that Dylan would have needed to walk 20 miles to see his friend. I'm confused because the timeline on FMDR implies that the friend in reference lives 5.9 miles from Mark's house, not 20 miles.

Where is the 20 miles coming from?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/find-missing-dylan-redwine/updated-timeline/606722792687661

The friends house MR went to to see if Dylan was there is 5 give or take miles from his house. The friends house Dylan wanted to go see and visit is 20 miles away.

 

[*Lash*]

I didnt either!
I saw MH there.

As far as MR being at the search yesterday - In my opinion at this point in the case, MR being in close vicinity of MH or even CR would probably not be a healthy atmosphere for any one of them. Understandably, emotions are running extremely high.

 

[SCHMAE]

Seriously is there no one on WS who's a professional or certified body language expert ? Can we donate and pay one to sit with us tomorrow afternoon? LOL,,,,,,,,,JK,,,,,, sorta !

 

[Eileen730]

Reverse 911 is an emergency notification service offered by some telephone companies. In the event of an impending natural disaster or other imminent emergency, the service calls phone numbers entered in a database and plays a pre-recorded message that delivers information and instructions

 

[SuperMom1995]

I would think that if he was going to be upset about those things, it would be more likely to be when they happened. Dylan disappeared ~4 months after he moved, and 2 months after the custody hearing. He had gone on the trip to Boston with him, and was in Vallecito over Labor Day - both after the move - and I'm sure he knew how custody would turn out as soon as MR knew they were moving. MOO

This was the first visit since the Custody change.

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1091

 

[Eileen730]

As far as MR being at the search yesterday - In my opinion at this point in the case, MR being in close vicinity of MH or even CR would probably not be a healthy atmosphere for any one of them. Understandably, emotions are running extremely high.

Its his son!
Man up!
Get over yourself!

 

[NC Analyzer]

I keep reading here at WS that Dylan would have needed to walk 20 miles to see his friend. I'm confused because the timeline on FMDR implies that the friend in reference lives 5.9 miles from Mark's house, not 20 miles.

Where is the 20 miles coming from?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/find-missing-dylan-redwine/updated-timeline/606722792687661

Dylan had a friend in Vallecito that lived approx 6 MI away from MR house. But Dylan had NO plans to hang out with that friend.
Dylan's plans were with his friend R, who lived in Bayfield. Approx 20 miles from MR house.

MR said he stopped to check on Dylan at his friend's house in Vallecito when he was on his way to Bayfield.
MR first said Dylan's friend in Vallecito hadn't seen him.
MR later said no one was home at the friend's house in Vallecito.
MR statements have not been consistent. I'm sure LE has noted all the discrepancies.

 

[scorekeeper]

I may be dumb but score could you tell me what a reverse 911 call is? TIA:rocker:

Reverse 911 is an emergency notification service offered by some telephone companies. In the event of an impending natural disaster or other imminent emergency, the service calls phone numbers entered in a database and plays a pre-recorded message that delivers information and instructions

MissJ (you are far from dumb!!), Eileen answered. Thanks, Eileen.

I only know about because they have it at my kids' college....

A reverse call was supposedly put out about Dylan being missing.

:seeya:

 

[*Lash*]

I am trying to think of what kind of leverage could be used against Mr. Redwine to compel him to reveal the truth. Question: What does he value the most? What could be taken away from him - or threatened to be taken away from him - that would rock him to his foundation?

I would say his freedom, but we know that does not always work (see Skelton case). I am afraid that punishing Elaine means more to this individual than even his freedom. And, that goal has been spectacurately accomplished.

Of course, the answer for most folks is his/her kids. But, well, there's no need to elaborate on that in this case. There's no leverage there.

Honestly, I am afraid there is nothing to use 'against' him, and this makes me very, very sad...

I am on the fence, but when I do consider MR may have been involved in Dylan's disappearance I can't help think about the Skelton boys case.

 

[SuperMom1995]

I am trying to think of what kind of leverage could be used against Mr. Redwine to compel him to reveal the truth. Question: What does he value the most? What could be taken away from him - or threatened to be taken away from him - that would rock him to his foundation?

I would say his freedom, but we know that does not always work (see Skelton case). I am afraid that punishing Elaine means more to this individual than even his freedom. And, that goal has been spectacurately accomplished.

Of course, the answer for most folks is his/her kids. But, well, there's no need to elaborate on that in this case. There's no leverage there.

Honestly, I am afraid there is nothing to use 'against' him, and this makes me very, very sad...

money but then he would not be able to enjoy that while incarcerated.