CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #39

[ColdHands]

I would imagine the warrant is sealed. If media were interested enough I suppose they could take steps through their legal dept to try to get it unsealed. But I don't see any media in the area interested enough to do that. And there is no guarantee a judge would release it anyway.

MOO

This would be a good question for an expert. I remember reading once a long time ago that you could get the search warrant info, but there were some hoops to go through.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Children don't grow up hating their father for no reason. It is quite often speculated that he is a cold-blooded killer, and there is no basis for that theory either, that I've seen.

I would just like to know what he did to deserve the hatred of two ex-wives. Other than one incident which happened several years ago, I don't see that he's been nearly deserving of the accusations that have been tossed around about how horrible a person he is. And we have yet to see any reasons why his older sons despise him and want nothing to do with him. How did they come to that decision? Maybe it's none of our business, but it sure would help ME to understand why so many people believe he could kill his son.

I am in no way accusing either ex-wife of alienating their children against him. But women have done this since the beginning of time, it's a natural defense for some women. If they can turn the kids against Daddy, then they are assured that the kids will love Mommy more and want to be with her. Or some have done it out of spite for various reasons.

Again...NOT SAYING THIS IS THE SITUATION IN THIS CASE!!!! But it could be a possibility, and every bit as possible as him killing his own son.

JMO, IMO, MOO, etc.

BBM: I have the impression you might just get some of those answers Tues-Wed after the Dr. Phil show airs. :great:

And with regard to CPS being called...How do you know they weren't? CPS records are sealed.

 

[Kamille]

Intense hours of being interrogated.

First starting the interrogation in Reverse, and working towards the time he picked Dylan up at the airport.

That is the quickest way for someone to lawyer up and clam up. No one has to say anything to LE if they don't want to or be subjected to an intense interrogation without benefit of legal counsel, which in most cases would advise their client to say nothing. Not a good idea to attempt this in an investigation unless you have some solid proof to make an arrest and are just trying to get more info or appeal to someone's conscientious of guilt. It's a bit of a balancing game with LE when questioning POI's IMO.

Of course if someone does choose to lawyer up and clam up when LE wants to question them, they may find themselves with an official suspect or POI designation. Not a good thing either for someone who is truly innocent.

MOO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

My youngest son is now 19, and up until a year ago was still watching Nickelodeon.

As a matter of fact, when he is home for visits, he still occasionally watches 'Spongebob' (as do I :blushing: )

Also remember when he was younger, that was his favourite station.

Yeah, but there's a difference between shows like Spongebob (which apparently has adult humor hidden in it), ICarly, Victorious...and a show like Dora the Explorer. Dora is designed for preschoolers. Others shows on Nick are made for the tween age. In every episode of Dora, there's a part where Dora and the audience repeats over and over what route she has to take: "Meadow...Bridge...Market" say 100x in a row...I don't see how someone over age 7 could watch the show without getting annoyed. So if it was Spongebob, ICarly, Victorious, I would buy it, but Dora?

Maybe it would be a good idea to check what shows were on other channels? I mean, maybe Dora was the best option? Like the other ones were news shows or reruns of shows from the 80s? So Dora, even though he might not be a fan, the fact that it was the only show he was familiar with...Maybe that's why he chose it?

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Intense hours of being interrogated.

First starting the interrogation in Reverse, and working towards the time he picked Dylan up at the airport.

Do you not think that with LE, CBI and the FBI involved that they have not done this?

I think it would be ludicrous to assume they haven't which is what appears to be going on with the GP. They are not giving any credit to LE for their expertise.

People are impatient and speculation and rumor are running rampant, leading to assumptions becoming facts or trying to make them fact.

I understand the impatience, but LE is not incompetent just because a arrest has not been made in this case. They have a lot of information that we don't.

 

[Eileen730]

But the showing up randomly could have been when he lived much closer to them and I would think by 13 you would have some concept of how far away you were from your destination but maybe not. JMO

Exactly!
Like Moms going out and dylan says hey mom if your going by so and so's
can can ya drop me off. After school kids get on their bikes and go looking for someone to hang with. Its not odd behavior.

What the hey!
we have kids show up at our door all the time. Hey is J home? sure come on in.

Teens do not do PLAY dates!

JMO

 

[SuperMom1995]

No, unfortunately, that doesn't help, because it doesn't say Dylan's phone stopped communicating with the tower Sunday night. A reporter states LE says (bolded) Dylan's phone hasn't sent out a signal since Dylan vanished, and we don't know when Dylan vanished, Sunday or Monday, because LE won't say.

I don't have any problem if it's your opinion that the phone stopped pinging Sunday night - it's just when something like that is stated as a fact, especially when it's also stated that LE confirmed it in almost every news article, I want to make sure I didn't miss something.

These all discuss the 9:37 time.

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22442955

http://www.9news.com/news/article/314078/42/What-happened-to-Dylan-Redwine

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...igators:-‘We-want-to-leave-no-stone-unturned’

http://www.koat.com/news/Rallies-ma...hday/-/9154100/18427994/-/4kccmj/-/index.html

 

[ColdHands]

Yeah, but there's a difference between shows like Spongebob (which apparently has adult humor hidden in it), ICarly, Victorious...and a show like Dora the Explorer. Dora is designed for preschoolers. Others shows on Nick are made for the tween age. In every episode of Dora, there's a part where Dora and the audience repeats over and over what route she has to take: "Meadow...Bridge...Market" say 100x in a row...I don't see how someone over age 7 could watch the show without getting annoyed. So if it was Spongebob, ICarly, Victorious, I would buy it, but Dora?

Maybe it would be a good idea to check what shows were on other channels? I mean, maybe Dora was the best option? Like the other ones were news shows or reruns of shows from the 80s? So Dora, even though he might not be a fan, the fact that it was the only show he was familiar with...Maybe that's why he chose it?

FWIW, which is arguably not much, I showed my 12yo the Nickolodeon lineup. He said he'd still have left it on Nick even though it was showing the young shows. My opinion on that is he's too lazy to turn the channel unless the remote is right under his hand. And 1/2 the time even if it was, he'd say he couldn't find it. IMO - Nick was probably on and it was probably just for noise. Kids don't want to be in a silent house.

ETA: He also thinks Dylan would have gone outside to hang out - that's probably projection though, I am pretty sure my son would have been outside. Also that he wouldn't have gotten up at 6:30 on a school vacation day. JMO FWIW.

 

[Kamille]

Do you not think that with LE, CBI and the FBI involved that they have not done this?

I think it would be ludicrous to assume they haven't which is what appears to be going on with the GP. They are not giving any credit to LE for their expertise.

People are impatient and speculation and rumor are running rampant, leading to assumptions becoming facts or trying to make them fact.

I understand the impatience, but LE is not incompetent just because a arrest has not been made in this case. They have a lot of information that we don't.

I believe they have one complete run down of MR's version of events from the time he picked Dylan up until the time he contacted the Sheriff's office. And it was done early on, within the first week or so. They also appear to have the results of one polygraph test. I do not believe they have asked him to go over any of those details again.

MOO

 

[aust amateur slueth]

"He either left the house and someone abducted him or something happened while he was still at the house. I could not think of a 3rd possibility," said Dan Bender, spokesman from the La Plata County Sheriff's Office.

I can think of another possibility

He never got to the house, either something done to him or he was given to someone to take him away after about 8pm

I've heard mention elsewhere that there are such things as underground networks. IMO its worth considering

 

[eileenhawkeye]

FWIW, which is arguably not much, I showed my 12yo the Nickolodeon lineup. He said he'd still have left it on Nick even though it was showing the young shows. My opinion on that is he's too lazy to turn the channel unless the remote is right under his hand. And 1/2 the time even if it was, he'd say he couldn't find it. IMO - Nick was probably on and it was probably just for noise. Kids don't want to be in a silent house.

ETA: He also thinks Dylan would have gone outside to hang out - that's probably projection though, I am pretty sure my son would have been outside. Also that he wouldn't have gotten up at 6:30 on a school vacation day. JMO FWIW.

That's another possibility. That Dylan simply put on the channels that he preferred, and Nick was one of them, even though he isn't a fan of Dora the Explorer. I think either that, or he went through the guide, and every other show on at that hour was either a news show or a show he had never heard of.

 

[The Cheese]

These all discuss the 9:37 time.

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22442955

http://www.9news.com/news/article/314078/42/What-happened-to-Dylan-Redwine

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...igators:-‘We-want-to-leave-no-stone-unturned’

http://www.koat.com/news/Rallies-ma...hday/-/9154100/18427994/-/4kccmj/-/index.html

And none of them confirm what the post I was responding to was stating as fact.


Here's Salem's post from last night regarding that discussion -

We don't know that the cell phone stopped pinging. We would VERY MUCH like to know that information. We would like to exactly when it stopped pinging and exactly which tower was last pinged. As far as I know, that information has not been released. All we know right know is that Dylan stopped communicating.

As soon as LE releases something about the pings, please link it if possible.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[NC Analyzer]

I believe they have one complete run down of MR's version of events from the time he picked Dylan up until the time he contacted the Sheriff's office. And it was done early on, within the first week or so. They also appear to have the results of one polygraph test. I do not believe they have asked him to go over any of those details again.

MOO

From my knowledge and perspective of LE, and just my personal observations, I have serious doubts that they need more interrogations. They know exactly who is responsible.
What they do need is a body so the "abductor/run away" theory, which would be hammered upon by a defense attorney, is neutralized.
I can pretty much see exactly where LE is at in this case. :seeya:

 

[The Cheese]

I believe they have one complete run down of MR's version of events from the time he picked Dylan up until the time he contacted the Sheriff's office. And it was done early on, within the first week or so. They also appear to have the results of one polygraph test. I do not believe they have asked him to go over any of those details again.

MOO

MR said his official detailed interview on Nov 29th was all about the timeline.

What do you think it was about?

edit to add -

He also voluntarily sat down and was interviewed by investigators.
"We went through everything moment by moment," he said.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder#ixzz2LvawJFSV

 

[SCHMAE]

Do we know when Elaine and Mike got back together?

If I was a gambler, I'd say somewhere around 3.5 years ago !
But that's just me ! Could be more like 6!

 

[Kamille]

From my knowledge and perspective of LE, and just my personal observations, I have serious doubts that they need more interrogations. They know exactly who is responsible.
What they do need is a body so the "abductor/run away" theory, which would be hammered upon by a defense attorney, is neutralized.
I can pretty much see exactly where LE is at in this case. :seeya:

I don't think they need to do any further interrogations either.

MOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

I don't think they need to do any further interrogations either.

MOO

As we see, repeatedly, over and over again...HE is his own worst enemy. :great:

 

[nursebeeme]

From my knowledge and perspective of LE, and just my personal observations, I have serious doubts that they need more interrogations. They know exactly who is responsible.
What they do need is a body so the "abductor/run away" theory, which would be hammered upon by a defense attorney, is neutralized.
I can pretty much see exactly where LE is at in this case. :seeya:

I agree. I think they are largely waiting until spring, as well, to conduct more searches once the weather clears. We have also seen that they are still searching targeted locations... they just don't 'advertise it' per se (re: the five searches that took place shortly ago at undisclosed locations).

:twocents:

I also hope they find this witness... he could have seen something that would give them more circumstantial evidence to work with

 

[Eileen730]

If.......
His poly came back that he failed or inconclusive there is only ONE reason I can see why they wouldnt ask him to retake that poly.


And JMO

 

[Eileen730]

I cant see him taking a poly on the D.r P show!

Does anyone here think he will?