CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #41

[Salem]

Precisely! And a terrible parent because she thinks MR did something to Dylan. I'm still baffled over that statement. What does her suspicions of MR have to do with her parenting skills?

I believe that MR made this comment because he watched ER's uncut interview with 9wantstoknow where ER said that she didn't want to believe that she had chosen so wrong that she could have been married to someone who would hurt their child. MR did, very specifically, use her words against her, imo.

He is very good at deflecting, using all the words he has been taught over the years in the custody proceedings, and in using anything he hears to, what he conceives as, his benefit.

What a nightmare.

Salem

 

[TxLady2]

I don't believe for a second that Elaine is involved . I think Mark could of done it and then I think of the logistics of it all and I think it's nearly impossible . Unless he has dirt on somebody and is using that as leverage :cow:

From what I have seen Mark simply would not have friends who would take such a risk on his behalf :cow:

Well, that I would have to disagree with. Everybody has friends, and even a jerk like him can have friends who are also jerks. Truckers are for the most part a good, decent bunch of people, but there are exceptions. I know that a few of them have been caught after committing some horrible crimes. What makes anyone think one of them would be too decent to do a favor for a buddy? OTOH, there are people out there who would do anything... even kill... for a friend. It can go either way.
People take risks all the time. Some people thrive on taking risks, it's just how they roll.

 

[Eileen730]

I believe that MR made this comment because he watched ER's uncut interview with 9wantstoknow where ER said that she didn't want to believe that she had chosen so wrong that she could have been married to someone who would hurt their child. MR did, very specifically, use her words against her, imo.

He is very good at deflecting, using all the words he has been taught over the years in the custody proceedings, and in using anything he hears to, what he conceives as, his benefit.

What a nightmare.

Salem

Well, that I would have to disagree with. Everybody has friends, and even a jerk like him can have friends who are also jerks. Truckers are for the most part a good, decent bunch of people, but there are exceptions. I know that a few of them have been caught after committing some horrible crimes. What makes anyone think one of them would be too decent to do a favor for a buddy? OTOH, there are people out there who would do anything... even kill... for a friend. It can go either way.
People take risks all the time. Some people thrive on taking risks, it's just how they roll.

But Kidnapping?
I dont think so!

 

[Seek&Find]

From FMDR, looks like Dylan's grandmother may be losing her fight with cancer. . So much stress and pain for this strong, loving family. Keeping all of them in my prayers. rayer:

 

[cluciano63]

Well, that I would have to disagree with. Everybody has friends, and even a jerk like him can have friends who are also jerks. Truckers are for the most part a good, decent bunch of people, but there are exceptions. I know that a few of them have been caught after committing some horrible crimes. What makes anyone think one of them would be too decent to do a favor for a buddy? OTOH, there are people out there who would do anything... even kill... for a friend. It can go either way.
People take risks all the time. Some people thrive on taking risks, it's just how they roll.

Maybe, but there should be a record of any person close enough to MR to participate in such an act, IMO, either via his phone, computer, etc. Even a list of any CB "handles" he may have been friendly with should have been obtained by now, if he used a CB (if anyone bothers anymore, with all of the other ways to communicate.) If he is an actual long-haul trucker, there should be a network of truckers who could be helpful.

A lot of people (most, probably) would draw the line at crimes involving children. Maybe hide Dylan for a day or two as a favor, but months? No way this (imaginary IMO) person could justify that later on. They would be a 100% accomplice.

 

[Seek&Find]

Hey! Just saw that the Dr Phil's are now on YouTube! May be easier to view than ustream.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iibjclUtGKw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=iibjclUtGKw

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NNUH...ch?v=NNUHI--tmnI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
^^mobile versions

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibjclUtGKw"]Dr. Phil - The Search for Dylan Redwine: Part 1 (Feb. 26th, 2013) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUHI--tmnI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Dr. Phil - The Search for Dylan Redwine: Part 2 (Feb. 27th, 2013) - YouTube[/ame]

^^desktop

Disclaimer: I have these on DVR, so I haven't viewed these YouTube versions.

 

[asyousay]

From FMDR, looks like Dylan's grandmother may be losing her fight with cancer. . So much stress and pain for this strong, loving family. Keeping all of them in my prayers. rayer:

I saw this and its heartbreaking she may go and never know what happened to Dylan :banghead:

 

[TxLady2]

I have been asking for a way this could really work for so long a time, for three months now. Have not seen any kind of explanation that I can buy into, even setting aside them"why" and the "then what" as far as getting him back. I have never heard of a case where a parent hid a child and did not also go missing. And if MR intended to go be with Dylan, Monday was the perfect time, a several day head start before his mom expected to see him. So why report him missing that day?

I agree with you. I can't buy into it, either, if that means believing it 100%. However, this is about thinking of possibilities, not agreeing with them, right? We don't have to believe one thing and dismiss everything else.

I can't buy into thinking he could carry out a plan to murder his son, either, not for any reason and not on purpose. But that's what a lot of people believe.

So what's left? An accident? A fit of rage? I dunno. I guess I can truly say, I don't really buy into any one theory, I'm just not sure what I believe at this point.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

From FMDR, looks like Dylan's grandmother may be losing her fight with cancer. . So much stress and pain for this strong, loving family. Keeping all of them in my prayers. rayer:

So incredibly sad She just wanted to see Dylan before she went. It makes me want to cry.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I saw this and its heartbreaking she may go and never know what happened to Dylan :banghead:

I hate to say it but if Dylan is gone the two will be together soon.

 

[cluciano63]

I agree with you. I can't buy into it, either, if that means believing it 100%. However, this is about thinking of possibilities, not agreeing with them, right? We don't have to believe one thing and dismiss everything else.

I can't buy into thinking he could carry out a plan to murder his son, either, not for any reason and not on purpose. But that's what a lot of people believe.

So what's left? An accident? A fit of rage? I dunno. I guess I can truly say, I don't really buy into any one theory, I'm just not sure what I believe at this point.

I would consider it if I could hear of a believable scenario (believable to me, anyway). I get the feeling that MR would have found a way to "produce" Dylan before that disaster of a DP appearance if it were possible to do so. People may have "secret" friends, but they are never as secret as they think they are, especially when you have the FBI examining your life for three-plus momths.

 

[Seek&Find]

I saw this and its heartbreaking she may go and never know what happened to Dylan :banghead:

I think Dylan might be the one to run to greet her when she gets there.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I agree with you. I can't buy into it, either, if that means believing it 100%. However, this is about thinking of possibilities, not agreeing with them, right? We don't have to believe one thing and dismiss everything else.

I can't buy into thinking he could carry out a plan to murder his son, either, not for any reason and not on purpose. But that's what a lot of people believe.

So what's left? An accident? A fit of rage? I dunno. I guess I can truly say, I don't really buy into any one theory, I'm just not sure what I believe at this point.

I have to admit that with recent information and events my mind has played with the idea of premeditation. I just can't go there though. I still think an argument of some kind that went bad. I can't imagine him having the help and resources that would be required to hide him out for this long. Although not impossible, i think it's unlikely.

 

[TxLady2]

Didn't Dr Phil begin that dialogue by asking him something like "I believe you know this woman??" (paraphrasing as I'm not going back to search for the exact wording) I understand why MR's every word is picked apart, but I do think we have to also look at the questions he is being asked.
:moo:

True. When you have not seen each other in 3 years, and not lived together in 6 years, you feel like the person sitting there with a hostile look is not the same person as the one you used to love. He had a smile for her, all she had was a frown and an angry look at him.
Not that I blame her at all. Just saying that people change sometimes when they've been apart for so long.

 

[asyousay]

I think Dylan might be the one to run to greet her when she gets there.

This is soo depressing to think of

 

[La Louve]

If my memory is right, on the Phil show is the first time MR said something about a bridge DR would go to sometimes and just ' hang around' or 'hang out'. That's why I wondered the depth of the river at that point. That river flows into the big lake. Curious ! Also curious is he says DR would go to the big rock wall behind his house, or to the campground or to the bridge and hang out by himself. That seems odd to me. Surely he would have some contacts at those places. So maybe he knew someone at the campground...that no one knew he knew? FWIW

By mid-November, any of those streams flowing into the lake are going to be very shallow.

 

[Seek&Find]

I'm split between premeditated violence and spontaneous violence. I wouldn't call it an accident. It's not an accident when child abuse or assault ends in death, IMO. An accident is tripping over a shoelace while running down stairs, for example. And nothing in Mark's actions and demeanor says innocent accident to me.

ETA: I leave about .1% for Mark hiding Dylan. I can understand that initial thought, given everything, but three months later with Mark's suspicious behavior, I'd be shocked if this turns out to be the case.

Moo

 

[La Louve]

I was thinking last night, if MR was innocent, why did he not suspect ER from the start, with their history? Why didn't he call her up, screaming that he knew she took Dylan? That would have been a normal reaction, in this particular situation, one would think. Instead he sends her a text, and then is soon talking about Dylan falling into lakes, hanging out at dubious places, talking to strangers, probably being taken out of the area, etc. everything but the obvious idea that the other parent took him (obvious only due to the hostilities). It seemed like he only accused ER much later just to antagonize her. But it seems to me that should have been the first reaction of an innocent parent at war with the ex.

BBM

and his fishing pole!:floorlaugh:

 

[SCHMAE]

I hate to say it but if Dylan is gone the two will be together soon.

Thank you and you are right. One tiny silver sliver in a sea of grey though

 

[TxLady2]

LE has not named MR as a point of interest or a suspect, so his name is already clear.

No... his name is NOT clear. He is not named a suspect or person of interest, because LE rarely does that unless they've got an airtight case. But that does not mean he is clear, by any means!! He will not be clear unless they can prove that someone else is responsible. Good luck with that!