CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #46

[scorekeeper]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

 

[fedfan4life]

You know I am thinking about this and I have come to this conclusion: I would feel absolutely certain that LE was 100 per cent convinced that Mark did something to Dylan if they released something that stated this specifically: "After a considerable investigation we have come to the conclusion that Mark Redwine knows what happened to his son Dylan Redwine." The fact that they continue to skirt around naming him a POI has me convinced they are not 100 per cent certain that Mark is the guy, which is why they are leaving room for the "unknown" element. Isn't the whole issue of not naming him a suspect for legal purposes, as in, being sued if they are wrong?

That is one interpretation. Another One - A case is being built, and it would be counterintuitive to tell your primary suspect that he, in fact, is your primary suspect prior to his/her arrest. Clearly, in order to be confident in their conclusions, either a crime scene or Dylan is needed.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

No they did not go through Bayfield to my knowledge. But interesting isn't it? Supposedly from McDonald's they went home on Florida Rd.

 

[fedfan4life]

Thank you. If this press release was well-written, we would not all be having questions.

Nope. The only way we would have no questions is if this were an indictment. This is a press release...

This is clearly very deliberate writing.

 

[Emma Ems]

Well I think when they are 100% certain they tend to make an arrest rather than a press release.

LOL. I guess that was my point...

The fact they still factor in the unknown and have made no other movement, to me suggests they don't have the evidence to make an arrest and they are not completely certain that MR is the right guy. I just can't get hung up completely on one person, because I don't want to miss any other possibilities either. Does that make sense? Even if they are leaning towards him, it doesn't mean that some puzzle piece may be found that leads them in a completely different direction altogether.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Co Rd 501 goes from Bayfield up to the west side of Vallecito Lake and continues around the east side of the lake in a loop. To continue up to MR's house you would take Co Rd 500. Florida Rd is Co Rd 245 I believe.

 

[azgrandma]

I was trying to determine if this is when Mark filed the missing persons report with the Marshall's office.

IMO all the press releases that have come from Bender have stated that a report was filed around 530 or 6 pm. I'm pretty certain this release was proofed by someone, so the failure to put that MR reported Dylan missing to the Marshall's office IMO is not a typo.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Curious why you think LE may not have taken his primary phone but a spare instead? Would a spare even be activated?

I just thought that from the context, that they took his actual phone and a Samsung. I don't know I could be totally off. Thanks for asking. This wasn't a well developed thought of mine.

 

[scorekeeper]

Wow, good thing I don't rely on the Denver Post for news - could they have edited the press release any further?
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22826801/sw-colorado-searchers-say-leads-fizzle-14-year

Wow, exactly! :what:

Someone needs to send this guy the press release and tell him he possibly need to be mentored by a seasoned reporter.....:banghead:

 

[fedfan4life]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Bayou Mistress]

IMO all the press releases that have come from Bender have stated that a report was filed around 530 or 6 pm. I'm pretty certain this release was proofed by someone, so the failure to put that MR reported Dylan missing to the Marshall's office IMO is not a typo.

Bender, of the Sheriff's office, can't hardly speak for the Marshall's office, now can he? Obviously, Mark went to the city law authority when the actual crime falls into the county jurisdiction.

 

[scorekeeper]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

And I guess Mark never officially reported his son, Dylan, missing.

That says a lot to me.

 

[mmmagique]

I just think it is the timeline we have always heard and that the press release is poorly written yet again.

:what: Sadly, I suspect this is the case. Here at WS, we pick apart words that LE (or reporters) use with precision. Unfortunately, I don't believe (in most cases) LE (or the reporters) are as careful with the words they choose.

 

[scorekeeper]

Bender, of the Sheriff's office, can't hardly speak for the Marshall's office, now can he? Obviously, Mark went to the city law authority when the actual crime falls into the county jurisdiction.

I think he can since they are the official/primary investigative agency. Or that at least makes sense to me.

 

[ColdHands]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?
"We have to stop at Walmart, you go ahead and we'll meet you there?"

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?
IF Dylan somehow left the house and something was done to him, then there actually isn't an end time for that window. All they have is what time they began searching and paying attention to traffic in that area.

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

Thoughts on a couple of your questions. All MOO.

 

[Seajay]

That is one interpretation. Another One - A case is being built, and it would be counterintuitive to tell your primary suspect that he, in fact, is your primary suspect prior to his/her arrest. Clearly, in order to be confident in their conclusions, either a crime scene or Dylan is needed.

Do you think that Mark doesn't know that he's a suspect or that LE has always looked his way??? I think that's pretty much a given. If MR doesn't know it, he's the only one who ever heard about this case that doesn't know it. IMO, JMO, MOO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think he can since they are the official/primary investigative agency. Or that at least makes sense to me.

Yes, and I'm sure whether or not he went to the Marshall's was confirmed by La Plata County if that was possible. I know there was some mention of the Marshall's office closing at 3pm. I don't know if that was ever confirmed.

Reporters may do some sloppy reporting, but every LE press release I've ever seen is very carefully worded and written.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Okay - I'll play. Only I'm going to extend the "suspect" parameters by saying Let's pretend ALL family has been cleared of any involvement. Where do we go from here?

Dylan is somewhere very close to home? Maybe had an accident?
Dylan was picked up by someone on his way to find cell reception so he could make a phone call - he didn't want to text - he wanted to talk to someone? (this is speculation only)

Salem

What other adults did he know well enough in that area to where he might feel safe getting in to a car with them? Who had been at MR's house in the past when Dylan was there?

 

[Emma Ems]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

Possibility for one of your questions off the top of my head, the hour before they got home? Maybe to see if someone strange was in the area prior lurking around? It does seem to be somewhat about following Mark's movements but the area before he returned with Dylan is a bit odd to me and it kind of makes me wonder if they were wondering about someone possibly watching Mark???? And that is what I think was nagging my brain about the part about Dylan and Mark's interactions from those two days that do they mean with each other or with other people altogether? As in did they interact with someone strange that maybe Mark didn't remember.

 

[ColdHands]

Possibility for one of your questions off the top of my head, the hour before they got home? Maybe to see if someone strange was in the area prior lurking around? It does seem to be somewhat about following Mark's movements but the area before he returned with Dylan is a bit odd to me and it kind of makes me wonder if they were wondering about someone possibly watching Mark???? And that is what I think was nagging my brain about the part about Dylan and Mark's interactions from those two days that do they mean with each other or with other people altogether? As in did they interact with someone strange that maybe Mark didn't remember.

BBM - I think that is hurting my head tonight. Mark interacting with Dylan (violence, anger, pleading from Mark, fearfulness from Dylan, although I don't see fearfulness on the Walmart picture) would be very important if they believe Mark is responsible. Interacting with others? Maybe trying to find someone else that knew Dylan was at the house? Maybe trying to find out if anyone thought Mark had been drinking or was acting strangely?

Glad to have some things confirmed as facts. Now if only Bender would end his press releases with, "And this is what we think happened....":banghead: