CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #46

[Redhead72]

Possibilities:
Old inactivated phone
Work vs personal phones - some companies require this
A throwaway or second phone to limit tracking. Could be for nefarious purposes. Or some women I know with online dating profiles use a second phone in case a meetup does not go well and they don't want that person to contact them again.

Any other thoughts?

We have a pre-paid cell simply because it's easier to budget minutes and such. We've, unfortunately, had a lot of financial problems in the last few years...

 

[Redhead72]

Wow, good thing I don't rely on the Denver Post for news - could they have edited the press release any further?
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22826801/sw-colorado-searchers-say-leads-fizzle-14-year

A little O/T -
:floorlaugh: Sorry, just had to laugh about this... I was always amazed at the poor reporting from both the Rocky Mountain News (now defunct), and the Denver Post as well. :facepalm:

In fact, I don't know where the true journalists today are hiding in the media in general. It seems those who know their job and actually do it well are too few and far in-between.:shakehead:

 

[Redhead72]

Wow, exactly! :what:

Someone needs to send this guy the press release and tell him he possibly need to be mentored by a seasoned reporter.....:banghead:

Not sure if they have any there... :facepalm:
Must resist urge to bash them further.

 

[jjenny]

I mentioned this earlier, but would like to mention it again because I was wondering if anyone could recall this. It seems I remember reading about a case where someone went to LE about their kids being missing and LE at the time didn't take their concerns seriously and wouldn't file a report????

I am wondering if SO asked Bayfield why a report wasn't filed and this was their response to kind of cover their booties about not filing one. If they didn't file one when Mark came in would they have been in trouble? Another part of me asks why didn't they insist one be filed when he came in asking that? That part just concerns me because when kids are MIA while it may be that they are just at a friends or whatever when they don't keep in close contact with their parents they could also be in real danger and I really think that anytime they are notified/or spoken with when a parent can't find their child they should really start on a report.

How do you think MR was able to come in if office closes at 3 pm?

 

[Redhead72]

Investigators confirmed that Dylan arrived at Mark’s home on Sunday at about 8:00 PM after stops at Wal-Mart and McDonald’s in Durango.

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So, this answers my question about Dylan making it to Mark's house.

Now I want to know if the dogs picked his scent up outside the house/around the house/down the road.....

I hope it doesn't take another 4 months to get the answer....

Praying that Mark will get back with Tricia and goes on her Radio show.......

All of this is MOO! :cow:

I found the statement that Dylan *somehow* may have left the home to mean that the dogs could not track his scent as having left on foot down the road walking. I have a feeling that they can't confirm that he ever left the house again - which may be why they are not ruling out something happening inside the home - however, that is getting deeper into speculation than I think I can go at this point...

The *somehow* sticks with me in all of this. It seems rather obvious to me that at least they do not believe MR's hypothesis that DR left to walk wherever he went/was taken from the house.

One other general statement I wanted to make in regard to the press release is that for a long time LE has stated that this is a criminal case, and a *possible abduction*. It definitely seems that they are narrowing a lot down at this point. I don't know what to make of the statements in regard to the roads traveled, simply because I don't know the area at all.

I find it interesting that they are talking about the track around the lake - I would take this to mean that they are trying to confirm some of the claims MR made about going and looking for DR at the lake, and attempting to contact DR's friend T. That is why, IMO, I think they are giving the time of 7pm on Monday - likely because at 7pm they can confidently account for MR's location.

Again, all of the above is all MOO! I had some other impressions reading through the thread, but can't remember them all now, and I see that my last few comments have been made all in a row, and I don't want to spam the thread...

As always, all of the above is MOO! :cow:

 

[daisy.faithfull]

All of this is MOO! :cow:

I found the statement that Dylan *somehow* may have left the home to mean that the dogs could not track his scent as having left on foot down the road walking. I have a feeling that they can't confirm that he ever left the house again - which may be why they are not ruling out something happening inside the home - however, that is getting deeper into speculation than I think I can go at this point...

The *somehow* sticks with me in all of this. It seems rather obvious to me that at least they do not believe MR's hypothesis that DR left to walk wherever he went/was taken from the house.

One other general statement I wanted to make in regard to the press release is that for a long time LE has stated that this is a criminal case, and a *possible abduction*. It definitely seems that they are narrowing a lot down at this point. I don't know what to make of the statements in regard to the roads traveled, simply because I don't know the area at all.

I find it interesting that they are talking about the track around the lake - I would take this to mean that they are trying to confirm some of the claims MR made about going and looking for DR at the lake, and attempting to contact DR's friend T. That is why, IMO, I think they are giving the time of 7pm on Monday - likely because at 7pm they can confidently account for MR's location.

Again, all of the above is all MOO! I had some other impressions reading through the thread, but can't remember them all now, and I see that my last few comments have been made all in a row, and I don't want to spam the thread...

As always, all of the above is MOO! :cow:

Hi, so the track of road they mention is the track around the lake? I think I missed that.

 

[Redhead72]

Hi, so the track of road they mention is the track around the lake? I think I missed that.

That's what I gathered from what other posters said in regard to the mention of Rd 500 and Rd 501. I could definitely be mistaken though. I will go back a couple pages and see if I can find the post I remember.

 

[Redhead72]

Investigators are asking for information from anyone who may have been at their Vallecito homes or traveling in Vallecito on CR 500 or CR 501 between 7:00 PM Sunday, November 18th and 7:00 PM on Monday, November 19th

BBM

For some reason this statement struck me.

Why on County road 500 and 501 in the Vallecito area?

Did they not travel Florida Road home but went thru Bayfield?

Why an hour before Mark and Dylan supposed arrived at Mark's house?

Why approximately up to 2 hours after Mark was at the Marshal's office?

Did Mark leave the Marshal's Office and go directly back home, never stopping or talking to La Plata Co. SO?

No they did not go through Bayfield to my knowledge. But interesting isn't it? Supposedly from McDonald's they went home on Florida Rd.

Co Rd 501 goes from Bayfield up to the west side of Vallecito Lake and continues around the east side of the lake in a loop. To continue up to MR's house you would take Co Rd 500. Florida Rd is Co Rd 245 I believe.

Above are the posts I was referencing in regard to the roads by the Lake within Vallecito. CO Rd 501 is the one that continues around the Lake in a loop... Hope this helps a bit. I haven't looked at the map in a while...

ETA: Some of the posts quoted above had information with other posts in quotations which are not reflected in this comment.
BBM

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Above are the posts I was referencing in regard to the roads by the Lake within Vallecito. CO Rd 501 is the one that continues around the Lake in a loop... Hope this helps a bit. I haven't looked at the map in a while...

Yes it did. Thank you! You didn't have to go back like that, I would have understood if you would have told me to go back. . Thanks!

 

[katydid23]

Mark ISN'T a suspect or even a POI at this point. I understand being able to speak about him here because he is allegedly the last person to see Dylan, but it's possible that someone else saw Dylan after, and it wasn't a complete stranger. JMO.

I believe that Mark is the prime suspect. They just will not announce that publicly until they have their ducks in a row. I hope that happens someday.

But after watching so many similar cases over the years, it may never happen.

RIP Ayla, Hailey, Haileigh, Baby Lisa, Kyron, Cecillia, Isabel, and so many more sweet souls. :rose: :star: :rose: :star: :rose: :star:

 

[margarita25]

Mark (I too like a late ngiht drink!):

All these accusations, all this pressure...I can't even imagine what you are going through..you're probably about to lose it right about now...I don't know you, I don't know Dylan, I don't know Elaine or anyone else here for this matter...I made it here because of Jessica Ridgeway...I'm local here in CO and I wanted to help find Dylan after wha happened to Jessica...I could care less about drama...

I saw you on those interviews...I think you really do love your sons! You actually have a good support group here. Probably more than you are going to find anywhere else, especially after all the bad publicity, which I'm sure is blown way out of proportion! Anyway...Nothing can change what has already happened. I don't think you purposely hurt Dylan, but after four months, I don't think this situation is not going to get any better If Cory does not get the opportunity for closure I'm afraid it may only make his life a living hell for the rest of his life, worse than it is now. Whatever happened has already happened...there is nothing that is going to change this...But you have a chance to right things now as best as possible in this situation, let your sons have the respect they deserve! I don't think its too late to do the right thing...

 

[Bayou Mistress]

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Fantastic question, and one to which noone has the answer, unfortunately.

Yesterday was the 4 month mark, might that be it?

 

[SCHMAE]

''Mark Redwine, Dylan’s father, had previously contacted the Bayfield Marshal’s Office on the 19th attempting to learn if they had seen Dylan, and he then contacted Elaine asking if she had heard from Dylan''

This is a new item, right? I see two scenarios here.

The " INNOCENT" MR calls up MO to ask if they've seen or heard from DR. If he'd gone off and had an accident then the MO would know . Someone would have called 911 and said a boy's been hit on road, fell off a cliff, playing with a friend and fell out of a tree, broke his arm, needs an ambulance, etc. Or a boy's wandering around alone without a jacket, someone needs to check on him.. Dozens of possibilities here for why the MO might have heard from a someone about DR in the area for normal reasons.

The " GUILTY" MR calls and says anyone seen or heard from DR , but he's thinking did someone see me? hear me? yelling, throwing, slamming on brakes, disposing, covered in ' evidence'. etc? Another several reasons that he may have thought hearing from MO nothing is amiss, then he thinks the coast is clear.

Also this is reminding me of how right after this he contacts ER and 'all hell breaks loose' and ' making more of this than it has to be'.... MR is just casually asking around if anyone's seen DR and ER is immediately about business of stop lollygagging and lets' get this reported ASAP.

All MOO all the time !

 

[nursebeeme]

It has been confirmed by Elaine that the last text was from Dylan's phone. So my guess is LE have the pings from Dylans cell phone and know of his location until 9:37 pm

the phone's location that is :twocents:

I am a little foggy on the earlier texts that Dylan sent to friends.... but iirc weren't they before he would have been confirmed in the home? I am wondering now if the reason the last text verbage has not been released is because it was not Dylan's texting style???

(this would also fit with what the press release states: (sic) that they still don't know if something happened to Dylan in the home)

:twocents::twocents:

Thank you for posting the press release. I am glad to see that they have a lot they are working on. It is the first press release in my recollection that did not address the topic of persons of interest/suspects. I tend to think they are making a lot of progress.:twocents:

 

[mijamawi]

I believe that Mark is the prime suspect. They just will not announce that publicly until they have their ducks in a row. I hope that happens someday.

But after watching so many similar cases over the years, it may never happen.

RIP Ayla, Hailey, Haileigh, Baby Lisa, Kyron, Cecillia, Isabel, and so many more sweet souls. :rose: :star: :rose: :star: :rose: :star:

I think you are probably right. I just hope that if he is their prime suspect they have enough to feel 100%, maybe not enough to arrest, but enough that if they aren't looking at anyone else and MR didn't do this, then someone is not getting away with murder.

 

[MissJ]

One thing stands out to me, LE is confirming that ER, CR and MH were in CS and not in Vallecito when DR went missing. LE is also continuing to investigate MR's interactions with DR on the day or days in question. It means all their questions about MR haven't been answered and he hasn't been ruled out. While no one has been ruled out it seems clear they do not suspect ER, CR or MH having been there and abducting DR. MOO. Their report was carefully and artfully worded IMO. IMO LE believes someone besides MR may have helpful information. Someone in MR's area, neighbors, friends or acquaintances? I'm in no way accusing MR. Maybe someone he trusted or had a relationship with at some point? Was someone with him that night before or after they arrived home? Could he be protecting someone? JMO and it probably is way out there. Just trying to think out of the box.

 

[MissJ]

JMO but I don't think DR ever walked outside MR's home. Somehow left.MOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

Dylan was reported missing on Monday, November 19, 2012, when Dylan’s mother, Elaine Redwine, contacted the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office at about 5:30 PM to report that Dylan was missing from his father’s home in Vallecito. Mark Redwine, Dylan’s father, had previously contacted the Bayfield Marshal’s Office on the 19th attempting to learn if they had seen Dylan, and he then contacted Elaine asking if she had heard from Dylan.

BBM - Pretty telling words here: "Attempting" to learn if they had seen Dylan.

According to MR it really "hit" him when he went to N's house and found out Dylan hadn't been seen or heard from all day. So if it "hit" him, why no report? And why the statement that his ex-wife was making "too much" out of the situation? How long did HE think it would be prudent to leave his child "missing" without reporting it? There's something seriously wrong with that man.

 

[MissJ]

the phone's location that is :twocents:

I am a little foggy on the earlier texts that Dylan sent to friends.... but iirc weren't they before he would have been confirmed in the home? I am wondering now if the reason the last text verbage has not been released is because it was not Dylan's texting style???

(this would also fit with what the press release states: (sic) that they still don't know if something happened to Dylan in the home)

:twocents::twocents:

Thank you for posting the press release. I am glad to see that they have a lot they are working on. It is the first press release in my recollection that did not address the topic of persons of interest/suspects. I tend to think they are making a lot of progress.:twocents:

My thoughts exactly!:moo::what:

 

[mixologist74]

Personally, I don't see even a shred of a clue that points to anything other than MR having involvement in Dylan's disappearance, unless you discount LE on what they have already investigated like sightings, run away, the guy looking for a rental & RSOs. I am not following why anyone would discount LE?

I'm of the other opinion. I don't personally see a shred of evidence that points to MR having to anything to do with Dylan's disappearance, other than he was allegedly the last person to have seen Dylan.