CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

[Annie1004]

IMO, it sounds as if MR may be adding to/adjusting his timeline, after meeting with investigators & hearing their questions.

I am sure LE was told this information by MR shortly after reporting his son missing. I doubt this is a "new" disclosure. Since LE checked the house shortly after Dylan was reported missing, the bowl was probably still sitting by the sink.

If MR is telling the truth, then there is something very nefarious going on, and this only heightens the mystery. Nothing makes clear sense from what we know so far.

 

[momrids6]

Lots of new info from dad. They went to Walmart and McDonald's. Dylan wanted to see friends that night dad said no. Dylan slept on the couch, cereal bowl beside sink from when dad returned to house. Backpack, fishing pole missing.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

I love you Yoda :clap::blowkiss:

 

[margarita25]

Here it is:


Originally Posted by lysstwrt
This website has links to coverage maps for major cell carriers:

http://www.cellreception.com/search....p=81122&page=1

You have to click onto each map individually and put in an address. I compiled these results when I put MR's address, 2343 County Road 500, Bayfield, CO 81122 into each map:

Sprint - off-network roaming
AT&T - Moderate 3G voice coverage, moderate 3G data coverage
T-Mobile - no service
Verizon - no voice/text coverage, data limited 1X
Nextel - no service

FWIW. Local knowledge on that specific area North of Vallecito Lake would be so helpful.

 

[momrids6]

Also, the picture with the short hair is from when Dylan was 11. His hair is longer and shaggier now. That might have been stated already, but I somehow missed this info, so I'm repeating it for anyone else that might have missed it.

I missed it- I saw one earlier pic with longer hair= or what I thought was earlier anyway

BTW: really good game- Congrats! Beat ND

 

[Abby Normal Again]

So why didn't MR provide dog handlers with scent items he states he had?

Was it ever specifically stated that MR had nothing to offer, or was it stated that ER had to bring something with her? I sincerely can't remember.

There is a chance they wanted additional items to cross check, especially if ER called them and expressed concerns. No doubt if she felt he was involved, then getting addition clothes from her is just smart police work. For all we know the two sets yielded the same results. Or not. Not enough data public yet.

 

[momrids6]

is it really new info or just a change to the story?

IMO the jury is out on which it is

"Lt. Ray Shupe, a spokesman for the task force, said the group has broken into teams this weekend. One is looking into all information that has come into a tip line; another is investigating the registered sex offenders who live in the Vallecito area. There are nine of them in Vallecito and Bayfield. Another team is combing through videos and photographs taken along the road from Vallecito to Durango on the day Dylan went missing."

Read more: With Dylan Redwine missing for almost two weeks, dad clings to hope - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222#ixzz2DstY62CP
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[Abby Normal Again]

I am sure LE was told this information by MR shortly after reporting his son missing. I doubt this is a "new" disclosure. Since LE checked the house shortly after Dylan was reported missing, the bowl was probably still sitting by the sink.

If MR is telling the truth, then there is something very nefarious going on, and this only heightens the mystery. Nothing makes clear sense from what we know so far.

Exactly.
Just because it's new to us, does not make it new. I'm sure there is a lot of information that would seem new or contradictory to us, because we have extrapolated and drawn conclusions based on limited information. Not meant rude, it's just simply human nature for the brain to do when given incomplete pictures.

 

[sorrell skye]

And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

Again I must ask: why would a father of a missing child contact a criminal defense attorney because his ex-wife had made a statement to the media that she felt her ex may be involved in her son's disappearance?

I call BS on why he claims he contacted a criminal defense attorney.

IMO, it probably has more to do with the recent "official interview" with LE and with the questions that were probably asked during the course of that official interview.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

( just wishful thinking)
Looking at just how many sexual predators there are in varying places due to the differing laws ? Sometimes one, sometimes many, really close to someone's home zone. Then look at another category of criminal. Then another, etc. Communities are threatened every single solitary day by many types of criminals. LE are in a rough spot every day because no warning is made...and it is so sad we all have to be vigilant all of the time. I wish there was a guarantee my family could be crime free on a particular day- if only a warning was given.

IMO LE would have alerted the community IF they thought there was a predator in the area.

 

[momrids6]

So why didn't MR provide dog handlers with scent items he states he had?

All the info and links on post below

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8597204&postcount=242"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6[/ame]

 

[Seajay]

Was it ever specifically stated that MR had nothing to offer, or was it stated that ER had to bring something with her? I sincerely can't remember.

There is a chance they wanted additional items to cross check, especially if ER called them and expressed concerns. No doubt if she felt he was involved, then getting addition clothes from her is just smart police work. For all we know the two sets yielded the same results. Or not. Not enough data public yet.

I'm not sure anymore where the report came from that Mom had to bring items of his from CS with her. It was stated at the time it was because Dad had nothing of Dylan's to use for a scent.

I also wondered, I remember a post that after Dad called Mom and told her Dylan was missing, she called the Sheriffs office and jumped in the car and made the trip to Vallecito. I wonder if she was told at that time to bring something of Dylan's for scent. A lot was made of her having to bring something with her. I wonder when that request was made. So early on, why would the police ask her to do that instead of just getting something for Dad?

 

[Abby Normal Again]

And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22108222

Again I must ask: why would a father of a missing child contact a criminal defense attorney because his ex-wife had made a statement to the media that she felt her ex may be involved in her son's disappearance?

I call BS on why he claims he contacted a criminal defense attorney.

Because it's wise?
He's been presumably working closely with a divorce attorney since 2007- no doubt this attorney has been telling him all along to retain a defense attorney. The fact that he went through the allegations, through the search, agreed to a formal interview- all without that attorney people are likely telling him he needs is a good sign to me, not a bad one. If he's guilty, he needs representation. If he's innocent, he needs to make sure he doesn't get trampled. Either way it's wise at this point IMO.

ETA- It should be noted that it has NOT impacted the investigation yet, he's done everything asked of him so far as we know.

 

[Seajay]

I am sure LE was told this information by MR shortly after reporting his son missing. I doubt this is a "new" disclosure. Since LE checked the house shortly after Dylan was reported missing, the bowl was probably still sitting by the sink.

If MR is telling the truth, then there is something very nefarious going on, and this only heightens the mystery. Nothing makes clear sense from what we know so far.

Since LE hasn't let much info out, this could very well be. We don't know if this is new or added to what was already said. LE could have had this info all along, and WE are the only ones just finding out about it.

One way or the other, this should easily be verifiable by LE, if there were Dylan's clothing there, an unkempt bed/couch and a cereal bowl in the sink. All can prove that Dylan was there, but doesn't prove he wasn't if no DNA is found on them. The clothing article could have been freshly laundered and just taken from the backpack and left.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I'm not sure anymore where the report came from that Mom had to bring items of his from CS with her. It was stated at the time it was because Dad had nothing of Dylan's to use for a scent.

I also wondered, I remember a post that after Dad called Mom and told her Dylan was missing, she called the Sheriffs office and jumped in the car and made the trip to Vallecito. I wonder if she was told at that time to bring something of Dylan's for scent. A lot was made of her having to bring something with her. I wonder when that request was made. So early on, why would the police ask her to do that instead of just getting something for Dad?

It was so early into the investigation, I really don't know. Perhaps he knew little aside from the fact that Dylan had just gotten to town. He may have asked just to be certain there would be a scent article. Just being thorough.

It just occurred to me that maybe we (reporters or a literal we) just extrapolated mom bringing something= dad had nothing. Perhaps they both brought a scent article. I don't know.

 

[Seajay]

Because it's wise?
He's been presumably working closely with a divorce attorney since 2007- no doubt this attorney has been telling him all along to retain a defense attorney. The fact that he went through the allegations, through the search, agreed to a formal interview- all without that attorney people are likely telling him he needs is a good sign to me, not a bad one. If he's guilty, he needs representation. If he's innocent, he needs to make sure he doesn't get trampled. Either way it's wise at this point IMO.

ETA- It should be noted that it has NOT impacted the investigation yet, he's done everything asked of him so far as we know.

ITA. If I were him, I would have gotten an attorney. Not that he cares what everyone else is saying, but his ex is pointing fingers at him, he's got the court of public opinion pointing fingers at him, just look at this thread, everything he's said and done has been tweaked and twisted to being nefarious and hinky. In order to make sure the judicial system doesn't do the same thing to him, he needs a lawyer.

It's only smart at this point. Not to mention there have been other cases in which a parent was suspected of doing something to their missing child and had to get an attorney to guide them through the process so they didn't say or do anything that could be construed later as something it wasn't. And it was later shown they were innocent of any wrongdoing in any way and they caught the real culprit.

 

[katydid23]

I think it was smart of him to get an attorney. But I hope he continues to cooperate. My father was a defense attorney. Many of his clients were innocent. I would ALWAYS advise anyone who was under any kind of criminal suspicion to retain an excellent attorney.

But my father believed in cooperating with investigations whenever possible, as a way to clear ones name and solve the crime. If you just hunker down and try to block communication, you may not be charged, but you will live under a cloud of suspicion for years.

 

[momrids6]

IMO LE would have alerted the community IF they thought there was a predator in the area.

A thought popped into my head after reading what he wrote- wishful thinking- as noted above post.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I'm not sure anymore where the report came from that Mom had to bring items of his from CS with her. It was stated at the time it was because Dad had nothing of Dylan's to use for a scent.

I also wondered, I remember a post that after Dad called Mom and told her Dylan was missing, she called the Sheriffs office and jumped in the car and made the trip to Vallecito. I wonder if she was told at that time to bring something of Dylan's for scent. A lot was made of her having to bring something with her. I wonder when that request was made. So early on, why would the police ask her to do that instead of just getting something for Dad?

either Dad had nothing with Dylans scent or LE wanted to make sure that they had something that was definitely Dylans. ie uncertain if they were being led astray with a false item from Dad

 

[momrids6]

Scent links....
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8597204&postcount=242"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6[/ame]
which consists of

Sarx ( verified SAR ) post concerning scent:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

Ransom's post with links concerning scent & search before items came from Colorado Springs.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

"A K-9 alerted on the area, but officials say that doesn't mean the smell is connected to Dylan" concerning reservior area:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...5Is78NDFY3fbNQ

 

[aust amateur slueth]

A thought popped into my head after reading what he wrote- wishful thinking- as noted above post.

who is he?

so you think LE wouldn't advise caution in the area if they thought there was a predator?

thats not what we saw with the investigation into Jessica Ridgeways disappearance or with the cody girls disappearance