CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #7

[Abby Normal Again]

Oh and dont forget grabs "most" of Dylans items including phone and charger. Oh and a fishing rod. No sign of a struggle.

A predator could take advantage in the form of "hey, I'm heading that way- want me to give you a ride? grab your stuff." It didn't have to be violent.

Not saying I believe this, just saying that your statement and her statement are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

 

[shefner]

If it is a friend or a neighbor or someone he knows it could have went down like this
Hey Dylan, want to go fishing? You can also charge your phone down at the dock

Dylan grabs fishing pole and backpack.


I am not sure I believed that happened, but I am surprised people seem to be ignoring that stuff like that has happened before. In fact, a lot of recent children's abduction cases I can think of happened with someone who knew the person somehow and they "lured" rather than forced.


I also don't know anyone under the age of 18 who would even register that a landline was a phone they could use. I am impressed that so many of you have kids who would use one rather than waiting a minute or two to use their cellphones.

My 18-month old granddaughter loves our cordless landline! She thinks its the coolest thing ever since her parents only have cells.

My own kids, 21-27 years old, always had a landline and cells. So maybe Dylan was familiar with them. Even so, he didn't use ANY phones after 8pm Sunday. THAT is a problem.

 

[Rougelatete]

Okay, so hashing out the theories:

1) Someone comes to the door Monday morning looking for Dad but he's already left. That person takes advantage of an alone-Dylan and makes a split-second decision to abduct him. Problem: that doesn't explain what happened to the backpack and fishing pole. Someone who happens upon a 'lucky' situation and takes advantage of it is not going to waste time stealing a backpack and fishing pole nor would they even necessarily know those are Dylan's primary belongings. This person would have no way of knowing when MR was to return and would simply grab Dylan and make off.

2) Dylan leaves in the middle of the night to seek out his friends and is abducted along the way or becomes involved in some unfortunate accident. Problem: that doesn't explain the lack of text messages after 8pm on Sunday. Surely, Dylan would have told his friends he was on his way. That also doesn't explain how Dad saw him and tried to rouse him Monday morning. The only way I could see this working is if Dylan's cell phone was dead, he didn't have his friends' phone numbers memorized and therefore couldn't call out from a landline, AND the internet wasn't working for some reason.

3) Dylan left the house sometime after 7:30am on Monday to seek out his friends or go for a walk by himself and encountered an abductor or unfortunate accident. That might explain the missing fishing pole and backpack but....Problem: it doesn't explain the lack of text messages after 8pm on Sunday.

4) Dylan's dad did something to/with him on Sunday night or very early Monday morning. That would explain the missing backpack and fishing pole. It would also explain the lack of texts after 8pm Sunday night. Problem: seems like LE knows something we don't and are still examining local RSOs and other avenues, not naming MR as a suspect or POI, etc. We also know nothing of any evidence found in either vehicle or in MR's home that would point to him.

5) Alien abduction. I suppose that would be the only theory that explains everything!

Feel free to add to this. Just trying to think out loud....

 

[vasportsmom]

I know what ya mean....but even then, I can't see Dylan taking his backpack. I think he would be taken quickly straight from the door. OR....the person who rang the bell could have offered him a ride to his friend's house, but I can't see Dylan not taking his phone. I just can't see anyway at all that Dylan would not use that phone Monday morning...if it was completely dead, he would probably hook it up to charge and use it to text while it was charging. I have done that myself numerous times.

The fishing pole throws me but I can see the abductor grabbing the backpack and phone if we assume they were right by the couch.

As for texting while the phone is charging I think that depends on the phone. I use an iPhone and if I completely drain the battery it will not turn on as soon as the charger is connected. I often wake up and have to throw it on charge while I take a shower or grab a bite to eat before it has enough power to start up.

I don't think the abduction scenario happened but if I was still hedging my bets that MR was innocent then it is the theory I would be advocating.


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[shefner]

Those pesky aliens!! I am going to blame them for all the cases I can't figure out!

 

[Darcyline]

My 18-month old granddaughter loves our cordless landline! She thinks its the coolest thing ever since her parents only have cells.

My own kids, 21-27 years old, always had a landline and cells. So maybe Dylan was familiar with them. Even so, he didn't use ANY phones after 8pm Sunday. THAT is a problem.

Do you have a teenager or know a teenager that would use a landline over waiting a minute or two to use their cell? That is what seems strange to me-I don't know any teenagers who are text-freaks who would use a landline rather than walk a few minutes to use their cell. Even I usually walk to the top of the hill near our cabin to use my cell (with texts and stuff) over using my parents' landline. I guess it depends on the person, but I just do not see it as impossible like everyone else does that perhaps he didn't have good service and then walked a little bit or waited for a ride in order to get access to his texts.

 

[vasportsmom]

Oh and dont forget grabs "most" of Dylans items including phone and charger. Oh and a fishing rod. No sign of a struggle.

Darn, you girls are brutal. I think I liked it better when my grammar was being picked apart. At least I had an avatar for that.

Completely kidding above if that isn't clear. I'm actually happy to see the holes in my scenario pointed out so I can throw it out.




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[Tennlyn]

Another thought I just had...
Dad said Dylan has a friend in Vallecito, right? http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder

That house would have been much closer to home than Bayfield, so if Dylan woke up Monday morning and for some reason he couldn't get his own cellphone to work at all, then why wouldn't he have just biked to his friend's house in Vallecito and borrowed his phone? My son had a couple of friends that would show up here to use his cellphone. (I even let them use mine when son wasn't home!)

 

[scorekeeper]

Looking through the local RSOS, quite a few a them look like someone who would appear non-threatening.

http://www.colorado.gov/apps/cdps/soma/index.jsp

oh, my.

the one guy is practically a neighbor. i wonder if dad knows him?

and the other guy possibly lives on the way to the lake...

I thought LE said early on ALL RSO were checked...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

this information may have ready been discussed; behind in reading, again:blushing:

 

[Abby Normal Again]

But the only thing that keeps nagging at me is would Dylan really not contact his friends before leaving the house? Really? There was a landline. So even if no cell service he would have picked up the landline and called. Or used the internet. I absolutely believe he would have contacted his friends if he could have before leaving that house.

It just depends on HIS normal, which I'd mostly want to ask his older brother about. My oldest at that age would always text and charge. Very on top of the logistics of phone ownership. My other is that age and TERRIBLE about it. Our rule is that they can't leave the house (w/o us) if it's not charged and a lot of times said child gets stuck home because of it and still doesn't learn. A lot of times it gets charged because of my reminders.


It just depends on Dylan's normal patterns.

I agree that MOST kids are good at charging phones at 13 if they own one.

 

[shefner]

The fishing pole throws me but I can see the abductor grabbing the backpack and phone if we assume they were right by the couch.

As for texting while the phone is charging I think that depends on the phone. I use an iPhone and if I completely drain the battery it will not turn on as soon as the charger is connected. I often wake up and have to throw it on charge while I take a shower or grab a bite to eat before it has enough power to start up.

I don't the abduction scenario happened but if I was still hedging my bets that MR was innocent then it is the theory I would be advocating.


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I have an iPhone too...so I know what you mean. But if the phone was close to dying on Sunday night, I can see Dylan taking the time to put it on the charger. And if he didn't charge it Sunday night, then he certainly would take the time Monday morning while he was watching TV and having his cereal. It doesn't take my phone but a few minutes to be plugged up before it will cut on and I can use it while charging.
I think, as perhaps you are vasportsmom, that something happened to Dylan on Sunday evening. He never had the chance to use that phone after then.

 

[Seek&Find]

The fishing pole throws me but I can see the abductor grabbing the backpack and phone if we assume they were right by the couch.

As for texting while the phone is charging I think that depends on the phone. I use an iPhone and if I completely drain the battery it will not turn on as soon as the charger is connected. I often wake up and have to throw it on charge while I take a shower or grab a bite to eat before it has enough power to start up.

I don't think the abduction scenario happened but if I was still hedging my bets that MR was innocent then it is the theory I would be advocating.


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I have an iPhone & iPad and if fully drained to the point they turn themselves off, within two minutes of being plugged in, they can be powered on and used while charging.

 

[shefner]

It just depends on HIS normal, which I'd mostly want to ask his older brother about. My oldest at that age would always text and charge. Very on top of the logistics of phone ownership. My other is that age and TERRIBLE about it. Our rule is that they can't leave the house (w/o us) if it's not charged and a lot of times said child gets stuck home because of it and still doesn't learn. A lot of times it gets charged because of my reminders.


It just depends on Dylan's normal patterns.

I agree that MOST kids are good at charging phones at 13 if they own one.

According to his mom, Dylan was a tech-saavy kid. I bet he couldn't imagine letting it run out of power.

 

[Seek&Find]

oh, my.

the one guy is practically a neighbor. i wonder if dad knows him?

and the other guy possibly lives on the way to the lake...

I thought LE said early on ALL RSO were checked...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

this information may have ready been discussed; behind in reading, again:blushing:

It was said prev that the RSO's had been checked; they must be going back through that info, just as they've interviewed dad multiple times, and searched the home multiple times.

Moo

 

[vasportsmom]

Those pesky aliens!! I am going to blame them for all the cases I can't figure out!

Now you did it! Did you really just blame Kimster's crew for abducting Dylan? You are so getting it now!! Been nice knowing ya.


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[Psychic Sleuth]

I wouldn't put too much into the fact that LE is looking at RSO's. If they are thorough (as they should be) they will be looking into ALL possibilities at this point. And they could be onto something and not want to let that be known at this point.

 

[shefner]

Do you have a teenager or know a teenager that would use a landline over waiting a minute or two to use their cell? That is what seems strange to me-I don't know any teenagers who are text-freaks who would use a landline rather than walk a few minutes to use their cell. Even I usually walk to the top of the hill near our cabin to use my cell (with texts and stuff) over using my parents' landline. I guess it depends on the person, but I just do not see it as impossible like everyone else does that perhaps he didn't have good service and then walked a little bit or waited for a ride in order to get access to his texts.

Most teens I know start to hyperventilate if their battery gets down to 1/4 power. LOL

 

[Bravo]

A predator could take advantage in the form of "hey, I'm heading that way- want me to give you a ride? grab your stuff." It didn't have to be violent.

Not saying I believe this, just saying that your statement and her statement are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

Agree. I/we were speaking to an abductor coming to the door.

 

[vasportsmom]

According to his mom, Dylan was a tech-saavy kid. I bet he couldn't imagine letting it run out of power.

I laid here last night with my phone, iPad and Kindle going through Toni Ingram's blog and making notes. I eventually had to set up my laptop because I drained all my batteries. It happens - not if you can find your chargers but what can I say?


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[shefner]

Now you did it! Did you really just blame Kimster's crew for abducting Dylan? You are so getting it now!! Been nice knowing ya.


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Kimster likes me....really she does.:seeya: