CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

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how are they different stories? They are just a more complete picture of the morning. What he is saying does not "change" imhoo.:twocents:

I said "another story" not necessarily given at the same time. I do agree it could have been given later to clarify his earlier statement. IDK...
I was just showing that yes both things were said.
 
  • #343
Wait a minute here! I'm confused. Dad said Dylan was out like a light and then said he had a conversation with him about coming home in a bit and would then take him to his friends?

I know eh? jmo
 
  • #344
I do see them as being different stories. His original version was that he made noise to try and make his son wake up, but he was out like a light, so he left to do his errands.


But later versions include them interacting and agreeing that he would come back and give Dylan a ride at 11 am. Very different imo.
 
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I said "another story" not necessarily given at the same time. I do agree it could have been given later to clarify his earlier statement. IDK...
I was just showing that yes both things were said.

Ok. I guess it could be further clarification. Just to me, out like a light means unstirrable. But maybe that's just my interpretation.
Jmo
 
  • #346
Truly I'm not trying to sound snarky, but this is my honest, heart-felt thought.

She was thinking it was Dylan's favorite song. I've read that from multiple sources on the Find Dylan website. In fact, they are trying to get the group Puddle of Mudd to do something special in his honor.

It's not about what ER wants or what she thinks. It's all about what Dylan wants!

As a mom who took her son to see many bands when he was a young teenager - bands that he wanted to see - including Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, I have the utmost respect for ER's choice to honor Dylan with a song he loved regardless of what anyone else thinks.

O/T but slightly related. My late husband was an avid Elvis Presley fan, but for some reason didn't want people to know that. I received quite a bit of criticism when I chose Elvis music for my husband's memorial service. But I thought it was quite fitting, and I look at it as being my last "inside joke" with my husband.
 
  • #347
No... you are not missing anything. It was MY mistake. So sorry for all the confusion. You are right. It wasn't 2 days - it was one day. :doh:

So sorry - that makes more sense to me. Thanks!

Salem


I wish finding Dylan was so easy as narrowing down the timeline!!
 
  • #348
You know that is an excellent point. I do not have one picture of my children with their dad after we divorced.

But, he probably does right?
 
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how are they different stories? They are just a more complete picture of the morning. What he is saying does not "change" imhoo.:twocents:

I so agree nursey! Had to repeat it, thanks just wasn't enough.

Also my son wouldn't have thought twice about walking that far.
 
  • #351
That is MR's original version. Now he has elaborated. I am trying to find the transcript, but he now says he nudged him awake, and promised to return at 11.

Here is the transcript for version2, but the nudging him awake gently is version 3, from a phone interview:



Peachy
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Transcript

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/...z/-/index.html

Reporter: OK. So, thank you so much for speaking with me on camera, Mark.

Mark: You're welcome.

R: What's it been like?

M: Well, it's been a tough time for all of us. I know it's been difficult on me and I can only imagine how it's been for his mom and his brother and his family over in the Colorado Springs area. And we're doing everything we can to try and find Dylan and keep the focus on finding Dylan. And you know, I've been working with the investigators and to make sure all the bases are being covered on that end. And that's pretty much where I'm at with that. I mean I'm doing everything I know how to do.

R: I want to get this subject out of the way first. There's a lot of suspicion out there, even when Elaine went on ABC news...

M: Right.

R: She was... can you address that?

M: Um, well I can only imagine being the mother and the frustration of hearing about your son going missing. And you know, I can only think that has to do with lashing out and trying to find who is accountable for this in this situation. I've been working closely with the investigators to do what needed to be done because you know, he was last seen at my house. And there's rumors going around that he's been spotted by people. You know, our concern is that something has happened to the point now where we just want to keep in the public's eye, you know Dylan's face, keep the focus on Dylan. And you know, don't worry about me and everything's going to be alright on my end. But I know this is a troubling time for Elaine and my son Cory, I spoke with him last night and I'm surprised we were able to hook up today because one of the things we're trying to do is unite together. And I have my oldest son from the Phoenix area here and of course my brother is here. And we're trying to unite as a family and stay focused on what's important here. And you know everybody wants to focus on me but the focus isn't me right now. The focus is finding Dylan and that's where I'm at.

R: Why do you think people want to focus on you?

M: Well, because I think that's a natural part of the process and because you know, he was last seen with me and he was with me the night before. And you know, I saw him in the morning before I left to go run my errands. You know, that's the logical place to start. And so, it doesn't at all surprise me, you know that they searched my home yesterday because quite frankly, I was expecting that to happen a week ago. So, you know my opinion is that we're all a week late and in where were at with this. So my focus is what do we need to be doing now to keep searching for Dylan and bring him home.

R: Do you have anything directly to say to Dylan?

M: Dylan, my prayers are with you and I love you very much. He was the light of my life and he meant everything to me. And I just want him home just like everybody else does. And that's why we've got to keep searching for him. Because somebody knows something. We've got to find him and we need to know he's okay.

R: This is you guys' platform today. You can use this to get out any message you want.

M: Well, I don't want the focus to be mainly on me. I want the focus to be mainly on Dylan because that's where, that's the most important thing right now. And you know, if the process of what's going on with the authorities and the people handling this is to search my home, all the had to do was ask. I would have willingly let them come in. I've given them, I've cooperated with them in every way. Anything they've asked me for, I've been willing to do. Anything they suggested I do, whether it be sitting at the house waiting for the phones to ring or Dylan to walk through the front door, I'm willing to do whatever I need to do. And that's what I want everyone to understand is that, you know my focus is on Dylan and what's going on with him and trying to keep the investigation moving forward in whatever necessary means that is. So, you know in cooperating with them and we can you know, keep the focus on the search for Dylan. And that's where I'm at with all of this.

R: So you went to run errands. Were you going to take him with you to run errands?

M: Well, there was some discussion he had with me the night before about leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield are with one of his friends that had been trying to text him or that he had been communicating with. As he had indicated to me he had been up until 4 o'clock in the morning the night before, he was tired from being in the airport most of the day in his travel from Colorado Springs to Durango. I laughed at him kind of jokingly because I know him. If he ain't got to get up, he's not likely to get up. And he's not the type of kid who's going to get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to. But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer.

R: Can you tell me about your plans for Thanksgiving?

M: Well, because he was with me for such a short period of time, we had touched on a few things. One of the things was we talked about going to my brother David's house in Castle Rock. Um, I know his friends were important to him so we were wanting to make sure he had adequate time with his friends. Um, you know basically the plan was Monday and Tuesday he would spend with his friends. Maybe Wednesday, you know we had talked a little bit about going bowling or doing something as an activity, not with just me and him, his friends included. Then we would have Thanksgiving day to ourselves. Or there was a possibility we would travel and get to my brother's house. So, you know, none of that ever got finalized. I mean, we were just focusing on the next day and what we were going to do and how that was going to take place. That's as far as we really ever got. You know, his friends are important to him and I certainly don't expect him to spend a whole week with me when he's got, he's grown up in this community and he's got tons of people who love and care about him.

R: So he was going to spend a whole week with you. When was the last time he saw you?

M: Um, I think probably sometime in early September, I had flown him over from Colorado Springs on a round trip ticket on that point so he came over here and probably spent three or four days with me and that. And then you know, we obviously got him back to the plane and got him back safely to his mom. And you know, in that case it was a transfer flight from the Durango airport or Denver airport leaving to Colorado Springs. And it was my goal to keep him on a direct flight or one that he never had to change planes on with because there was some controversy between mom and I about him being thirteen years old and being able to do those kinds of things. And so, you know, when I got the flight for him I made sure it was flight he could get on in Colorado...

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I transcribed this almost verbatim. Any mistakes are my own. It is now after 3 am. LOL

Hope this helps!

And thanks to momrids6 for getting the transcripts posted so quickly!
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  • #352
O/T but slightly related. My late husband was an avid Elvis Presley fan, but for some reason didn't want people to know that. I received quite a bit of criticism when I chose Elvis music for my husband's memorial service. But I thought it was quite fitting, and I look at it as being my last "inside joke" with my husband.

I love this story!!!
 
  • #353
But, he probably does right?

No, cause just recently he asked me to make him some copies of some pictures of them so he would have some of them...:what:
 
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A couple of thoughts - re: the song, it was on the radio nonstop for a few years, still is, and I belt out every word. Uh, until I read the lyrics today. Boy was I off!! ;)

<modsnip>

The big red flag for me was dad insisting that they search THAT lake. Surely there was one closer that he could have gone to.

And if Dylan never made it to the house - what the heck happened?? Argument, premeditated, what the heck went down. Boy, sure makes all the divorced people want to send their kids to the exes for the holiday. Cause I'm sure that no matter what mom says about dad, I doubt that she expected this. Was reading one article where she said it was surreal to see Dylans face on the billboard or wherever it is. Boy, howdy, isn't that the truth. Can you imagine??
 
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Peachy
Hoping For Miracles

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 34,920
Transcript

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/...z/-/index.html

Reporter: OK. So, thank you so much for speaking with me on camera, Mark.

Mark: You're welcome.

R: What's it been like?

M: Well, it's been a tough time for all of us. I know it's been difficult on me and I can only imagine how it's been for his mom and his brother and his family over in the Colorado Springs area. And we're doing everything we can to try and find Dylan and keep the focus on finding Dylan. And you know, I've been working with the investigators and to make sure all the bases are being covered on that end. And that's pretty much where I'm at with that. I mean I'm doing everything I know how to do.

R: I want to get this subject out of the way first. There's a lot of suspicion out there, even when Elaine went on ABC news...

M: Right.

R: She was... can you address that?

M: Um, well I can only imagine being the mother and the frustration of hearing about your son going missing. And you know, I can only think that has to do with lashing out and trying to find who is accountable for this in this situation. I've been working closely with the investigators to do what needed to be done because you know, he was last seen at my house. And there's rumors going around that he's been spotted by people. You know, our concern is that something has happened to the point now where we just want to keep in the public's eye, you know Dylan's face, keep the focus on Dylan. And you know, don't worry about me and everything's going to be alright on my end. But I know this is a troubling time for Elaine and my son Cory, I spoke with him last night and I'm surprised we were able to hook up today because one of the things we're trying to do is unite together. And I have my oldest son from the Phoenix area here and of course my brother is here. And we're trying to unite as a family and stay focused on what's important here. And you know everybody wants to focus on me but the focus isn't me right now. The focus is finding Dylan and that's where I'm at.

R: Why do you think people want to focus on you?

M: Well, because I think that's a natural part of the process and because you know, he was last seen with me and he was with me the night before. And you know, I saw him in the morning before I left to go run my errands. You know, that's the logical place to start. And so, it doesn't at all surprise me, you know that they searched my home yesterday because quite frankly, I was expecting that to happen a week ago. So, you know my opinion is that we're all a week late and in where were at with this. So my focus is what do we need to be doing now to keep searching for Dylan and bring him home.

R: Do you have anything directly to say to Dylan?

M: Dylan, my prayers are with you and I love you very much. He was the light of my life and he meant everything to me. And I just want him home just like everybody else does. And that's why we've got to keep searching for him. Because somebody knows something. We've got to find him and we need to know he's okay.

R: This is you guys' platform today. You can use this to get out any message you want.

M: Well, I don't want the focus to be mainly on me. I want the focus to be mainly on Dylan because that's where, that's the most important thing right now. And you know, if the process of what's going on with the authorities and the people handling this is to search my home, all the had to do was ask. I would have willingly let them come in. I've given them, I've cooperated with them in every way. Anything they've asked me for, I've been willing to do. Anything they suggested I do, whether it be sitting at the house waiting for the phones to ring or Dylan to walk through the front door, I'm willing to do whatever I need to do. And that's what I want everyone to understand is that, you know my focus is on Dylan and what's going on with him and trying to keep the investigation moving forward in whatever necessary means that is. So, you know in cooperating with them and we can you know, keep the focus on the search for Dylan. And that's where I'm at with all of this.

R: So you went to run errands. Were you going to take him with you to run errands?

M: Well, there was some discussion he had with me the night before about leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield are with one of his friends that had been trying to text him or that he had been communicating with. As he had indicated to me he had been up until 4 o'clock in the morning the night before, he was tired from being in the airport most of the day in his travel from Colorado Springs to Durango. I laughed at him kind of jokingly because I know him. If he ain't got to get up, he's not likely to get up. And he's not the type of kid who's going to get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to. But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer.

R: Can you tell me about your plans for Thanksgiving?

M: Well, because he was with me for such a short period of time, we had touched on a few things. One of the things was we talked about going to my brother David's house in Castle Rock. Um, I know his friends were important to him so we were wanting to make sure he had adequate time with his friends. Um, you know basically the plan was Monday and Tuesday he would spend with his friends. Maybe Wednesday, you know we had talked a little bit about going bowling or doing something as an activity, not with just me and him, his friends included. Then we would have Thanksgiving day to ourselves. Or there was a possibility we would travel and get to my brother's house. So, you know, none of that ever got finalized. I mean, we were just focusing on the next day and what we were going to do and how that was going to take place. That's as far as we really ever got. You know, his friends are important to him and I certainly don't expect him to spend a whole week with me when he's got, he's grown up in this community and he's got tons of people who love and care about him.

R: So he was going to spend a whole week with you. When was the last time he saw you?

M: Um, I think probably sometime in early September, I had flown him over from Colorado Springs on a round trip ticket on that point so he came over here and probably spent three or four days with me and that. And then you know, we obviously got him back to the plane and got him back safely to his mom. And you know, in that case it was a transfer flight from the Durango airport or Denver airport leaving to Colorado Springs. And it was my goal to keep him on a direct flight or one that he never had to change planes on with because there was some controversy between mom and I about him being thirteen years old and being able to do those kinds of things. And so, you know, when I got the flight for him I made sure it was flight he could get on in Colorado...

***********************

I transcribed this almost verbatim. Any mistakes are my own. It is now after 3 am. LOL

Hope this helps!

And thanks to momrids6 for getting the transcripts posted so quickly!
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Who talks like this ?
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''but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left.'''

''to make sure he had adequate time with his friends.'''

I mean seriously and I'm not being sarcastic. He looks blue collar, the longish hair, baseball cap, flannel shirt. But doesn't he speak like a well educated man? Curious.
 
  • #358
"... But you know, his friends are important and I know they're important me. So there was a possibility but it doesn't surprise me he elected to not get up when I left. And when I left, he acknowledged everything I was saying to him and that I would be back. He knew when I came back that I would be working on getting him down to his friends. And that's part of the struggle we all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and when I got back. And that's what nobody seems to be able to answer. "

So imo, that is not the same thing as being 'out like a light.'


Also, read through that transcript. How many times does he mention how important Dylans friends were to him? I thought an alarming amount of times. jmo
 
  • #359
Just last weekend, I had a conversation with DD15 early in the morning while she was in her bed. I asked questions, she answered, I did my running around and then came home and was in the kitchen.

About 2pm she came downstairs and said "Mom, were you in my room this morning? Did we talk about anything important because I have NO IDEA what was said..."

We laughed about it ...

Not the first time this has happened... teenagers!

Oh there is even a rule at my house that no one can ask me anything if I am horizontal! My kid figured out early on if he asked me something while I was still half asleep I'd say yes!




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  • #360
Just last weekend, I had a conversation with DD15 early in the morning while she was in her bed. I asked questions, she answered, I did my running around and then came home and was in the kitchen.

About 2pm she came downstairs and said "Mom, were you in my room this morning? Did we talk about anything important because I have NO IDEA what was said..."

We laughed about it ...

Not the first time this has happened... teenagers!

Oh there is even a rule at my house that no one can ask me anything if I am horizontal! My kid figured out early on if he asked me something while I was still half asleep I'd say yes!




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