CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[Seajay]

Likewise, one should take anything Dad says with a GOS.

True, so it shouldn't be analyzed like it has.

 

[Kamille]

have we ruled out the possibility that perhaps Dylan figured he'd charge his phone at his friend's house? as in, maybe he realized his phone was dead in the morning, but at the last minute decided it wasn't worth waiting around for it to charge and took off? i know that so many theories have been explored and of course that he would take off on a 3-4 mile walk seems unlikely, but perhaps he himself underestimated how long it'd take him to walk and something happened on the way, and of course not having his cell phone charged was unable to make any further contact...

im just putting this out there from my own personal experience...if i felt i was close enough to where i was going ive often just worried about charging my phone later, as well as misjudged walking distance. just putting this out there to chew on. sigh.

BBM

Well what I'm most curious about is why MR is willing to talk about where Dylan slept, what he had for breakfast, what he was watching on television but we've yet to hear what kind of phone he had and whether the battery wore down while he was texting his friends in the car on the way home from the airport/Walmart/McDonald's run. Why did he not mention this detail? Why are we hearing nothing about what transpired after they returned home until 7:30am the next morning?

Are there neighbours close enough to have noticed what time MR's truck pulled into the driveway? Has MR mentioned what time they actually got home that evening?

MOO

 

[jjenny]

Elaine was a 5 hour drive away, I've not heard anything about her having an official interview, I highly doubt LE thinks she had any involvement at all.

common sense and logic leads me to the conclusion that she wouldn't have a single thing to gain by doing anything to Dylan, in fact she would probably lose that primary custody that she has.

ITA. It's rather obvious to me that mother had absolutely nothing to do with her son missing.

 

[SCHMAE]

I wish she hadn't said anything either, it makes her look vindictive and derails the investigation if she's not correct in her assumption. MR has been torn to shreds here and elsewhere because of this. I wish people had as much respect for MR's feelings in this as they do for ER's feelings in this. It's sad, really.

You know what, you're right?
If ER had said nothing derogatory about MR,
would he be as ' in the hot seat' as he is?
I mean yes the last one to see Dylan puts
him there somewhat , but I feel like most of the
rest of the 'feelings' about him are from her words.
Since none of us know them personally, her words
carry weight, but think of all the people you know
who continually talk S*** and even make up crazy
stories about their X just to paint them in a bad light.
I feel like what she said was an 'excited utterance' almost,
not something she thought about or maybe something
she didnt' even really MEAN to the core, but it's done its'
damage, hasn't it?

 

[momrids6]

Watch this video!
It says it.
I didnt make it up.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=302378


Im not speculating what the protective orders were about i just stated it was
mentioned on TV.

And the mom has reasons to say what she says.

I can watch it all day long- I can't HEAR it... remember? And not all videos can be "heard" with adaptive equipment. I will have Peachy transcribe it for me - all you had to do was provide the link and tell me that it is in the video- not the story below it

 

[Confusion]

Not sure if this has been posted or discussed already (I'm really behind and trying to keep up so please forgive me!) but NG is doing a follow up on Dylan's case tonight, ER is on with her but MR is not.

Thoughts on this?

http://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?ref=stream

I hope it will not be like what I'm thinking it will be....

I think it the FB page shows that ER has been very successful in turning FB users against MR. I've never seen Nancy Grace (never even heard of her before coming here), but she seems to be more interested in sensationalism than news, so I'm not surprised she invited the one who would be most likely to make public accusations. MOO

Watch this video!
It says it.
I didnt make it up.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=302378

Im not speculating what the protective orders were about i just stated it was
mentioned on TV.

And the mom has reasons to say what she says.

That video is why we were told it was off limits unless and until documents were released to support the accusations.

 

[Nolita]

not in regards to this case, but let's be real...judges sometimes make mistakes and grant visitation to parents that should never receive it.

I wish ER hadn't said anything, but the poor woman is exhausted mentally, emotionally and physically. I'm going to cut her some slack. And if she's telling the truth, and if her suspicions are right...well then MR has victimized her in the worst possible way. I'm certainly not going to add to that anymore than anyone here wants to add to MR's pain if he's innocent.

This is not directed towards you, but I just find it odd that people are willing to cut the mom some slack because she is exhausted, but analyze everything the dad says under a microscope...isn't he just as exhausted as her? She shouldn't have pubically accused. If she thought he was capable of harm Dylan she should have told LE.


OAN- Has the NG show come on yet?

 

[LotusPawprint]

In regards to mom being "officially ruled out" or not....

I'd asked about this yesterday (and the day before that... and the day before that too) if ANYONE had "officially" been "ruled out" at least to our public knowledge.

As far as I knew then and as far as I know now, nobody has been officially ruled out. Neither parent, other family members, RSO's, neighbors, anyone. If they have, I have not heard it, seen it, or read it anywhere... not by MSM in a confirmed, official manner.

Whether they're not able to rule individuals out, don't want to tip anyone off, have no clue what's going on, .... it's all anyone's guess.

That's all jmo based on what I think I know.

 

[cluciano63]

What is worrying is that no one has been ruled out, in over 2 weeks now. I feel LE is no closer to knowing what happened.

 

[cluciano63]

This is not directed towards you, but I just find it odd that people are willing to cut the mom some slack because she is exhausted, but analyze everything the dad says under a microscope...isn't he just as exhausted as her? She shouldn't have pubically accused. If she thought he was capable of harm Dylan she should have told LE.


OAN- Has the NG show come on yet?

It starts in half an hour; someone will likely post a transcript late tonight as well.

 

[PoeticJustice]

Here is one of them.

Elaine Redwine told ABC News she believes her ex-husband was upset that she was the court-mandated primary custodian of their son.

"I don't think Mark treats him very well," Elaine Redwine said. "I would not put it past Mark to have done something to remove Dylan from the situation. You know, like 'if I can't have him, nobody will.'"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-boys-mother-suspects-husband-sons-disappearance/story?id=17813458

Wow, that's heavy. It sounds like there are some definite raw nerves between the two. Thank you for providing that!

While its certainly not the time to point the finger just yet, we have to also consider a mother's instincts...I don't have any kids of my own yet, but I'm certain you all that do can testify when you know you're right. I just hope she isn't, I mean the guy is really putting himself out there so in the event that Dylan isn't alive any longer I really really hope it had nothing to with foul play.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one. It sounds like it was years ago when the divorce was going on, not now. I doubt he'd be given visitation if there was an issue with that. So does this mean we can talk about it now??

It did also say that Mom was vocal about blaming the Dad. It's obvious this was an acrimonious divorce so I think I'd had to take anything Mom says with a GOS.

It sounds like it is old stuff to me and its totally irrelevant to Dylan's disappearance imo. FGS they have been divorced five years. Its just a diversionary tactic to make MR look bad now five years later.

IMO

 

[Bravo]

Are you quoting House?

I luv and soooo miss House.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is not directed towards you, but I just find it odd that people are willing to cut the mom some slack because she is exhausted, but analyze everything the dad says under a microscope...isn't he just as exhausted as her? She shouldn't have pubically accused. If she thought he was capable of harm Dylan she should have told LE.


OAN- Has the NG show come on yet?

Mr Redwine looks very exhausted and tired too.

Sorry I dont watch Nancy anymore.

I think she comes on here (EST) at 8.

IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyerFan28 View Post
My fave..."Ham on Rye!"
'splain ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vc9jlr9ah0

Omg! That's too funny! I didn't get it at first...but ....now....rofl

 

[Seajay]

Here is one of them.

Elaine Redwine told ABC News she believes her ex-husband was upset that she was the court-mandated primary custodian of their son.

"I don't think Mark treats him very well," Elaine Redwine said. "I would not put it past Mark to have done something to remove Dylan from the situation. You know, like 'if I can't have him, nobody will.'"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-boys-mother-suspects-husband-sons-disappearance/story?id=17813458

Ohhhhhh. That's not good. Not good at all. Kinda mean really.

 

[Seek&Find]

For what? That they are just an assisting agency for a local jurisdiction who has called them for their assistance?

I didnt have one handy but there are many on the net and easy to find. The local agency is alway the lead agency since it happened in their jurisdiction.

If a crime is committed that is a violation of local, state, and federal laws, does the FBI “take over” the investigation?

No. State and local law enforcement agencies are not subordinate to the FBI, and the FBI does not supervise or take over their investigations. Instead, the investigative resources of the FBI and state and local agencies are often pooled in a common effort to investigate and solve the cases. In fact, many task forces composed of FBI agents and state and local officers have been formed to locate fugitives and to address serious threats like terrorism and street violence.

Oops I forgot to capture the link.........I will get it and put the link in.

ETA: Here it is.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs

IMO

Your previous post stated:

The FBI nor the CBI are in the lead. The local law enforcement is always the lead agency and makes the decisions whether anyone will be publicly ruled out or not.

BBM

I was curious where you got the info that the local LE is "always" the lead agency, especially given there are multiple local agencies involved. As the link states and it's appeared during the investigation, they are working in conjunction with each other. I'd posit they probably collaborate to determine what's released publicly, but IDK, and this link doesn't address that, IMO.

When something so specific is stated as fact, without a link, I'm always curious about the source.

Moo

 

[PoeticJustice]

You know what, you're right?
If ER had said nothing derogatory about MR,
would he be as ' in the hot seat' as he is?
I mean yes the last one to see Dylan puts
him there somewhat , but I feel like most of the
rest of the 'feelings' about him are from her words.
Since none of us know them personally, her words
carry weight, but think of all the people you know
who continually talk S*** and even make up crazy
stories about their X just to paint them in a bad light.
I feel like what she said was an 'excited utterance' almost,
not something she thought about or maybe something
she didnt' even really MEAN to the core, but it's done its'
damage, hasn't it?

I see both sides.

I had several near death experiences because of my X. She struggles with schizo affective disorder and paranoid schiz, etc etc etc, and god knows what she says about me, as we have extremely bad blood between us. However, I wouldn't be surprised if no one really believed what I've said about my X due to how dripping with anger and bitterness my words are. Not something I'm proud of, but my feelings will never change.

Just adding some perspective.

 

[Amster]

With mom ranting and raving about MR doing "something" to Dylan, removing him or whatever she said and accusing MR of thinking," if he can't have him, nobody can".....what's the point of searching for an alive Dylan? So many think her words are gospel....then, again, what's the point of missing flyers and ribbons and buttons and vigils that pray he comes home safe? Way to go, mom.

 

[jjenny]

What is worrying is that no one has been ruled out, in over 2 weeks now. I feel LE is no closer to knowing what happened.

They haven't ruled anyone in, so it's hard to rule anyone out. They wouldn't even call dad a person of interest, and he was the last known person to see Dylan. IN Lauren S. case, pretty much everybody who saw her before she went missing was declared a POI.