CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #63

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651420378634522624

 

[Seattle1]

Recalling how Doctors Grimmet and Torres didn't have much time with defense expert Dr. Lewis's DID information before they testified because the Court didn't receive the report from Lewis until 3/31/23, and the Court had to Order Lewis to give Grimmet and Torres copies of all her raw data, notes, etc.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/%5BO-31%5D%20Order%20to%20Release%20Information%20and%20Testing%20Data.pdf

 

[10ofRods]

Ok, I think her checking into the hotel clears it up for me.

I’ve flown more miles than I care to remember and can only recall one place that scanned my checked luggage too, at least where I could see it.

I could see someone as crazy as he’s talking someone into flying the body for her, tossing it there, and if she was smart, would have stayed in Colorado and acted none the wiser.

My theory is blown though, my mistake.

Trust me. Many of us have put forward theories that didn't work out. It is inevitable in true crime stories.

I remember when we learned she checked into that hotel - that convinced me as well. At the time, we didn't know that her rental van had GPS that pinged every 6 hours or so (that has been admitted as evidence in the trial, IIRC).

She tried to conceal the fact that she had left Colorado from her husband, Al. The FBI knew she had left. They coached him on how to extra more info from her, but she was cagey (and used her usual disorganized style of speaking to try and hide the fact that she was back in NC).

It's very interesting, in retrospect, that within 3 days of Gannon's disappearance, she had given up looking for him (which she only pretended to do) and was making active plans to get her stuff and leave CO.

IMO.

 

[10ofRods]

Recalling how Doctors Grimmet and Torres didn't have much time with defense expert Dr. Lewis's DID information before they testified because the Court didn't receive the report from Lewis until 3/31/23, and the Court had to Order Lewis to give Grimmet and Torres copies of all her raw data, notes, etc.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/%5BO-31%5D%20Order%20to%20Release%20Information%20and%20Testing%20Data.pdf

Really good point, as usual. What is your opinion on whether there will be more witnesses called to rebut Dr Lewis? (I know you have to use your crystal ball).

 

[iamshadow21]

DBM

 

[10ofRods]

Psst...colorado...not california

Thank you (I want to insert a term of endearment, but do not know which one you might like).

I find that as I age, my fingers type C-place names without me internally editing as I once did). I have never gotten used to typing out Connecticut, fortunately. I'm surprised I didn't type Calaveras.

IMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

Thank you (I want to insert a term of endearment, but do not know which one you might like).

I find that as I age, my fingers type C-place names without me internally editing as I once did). I have never gotten used to typing out Connecticut, fortunately. I'm surprised I didn't type Calaveras.

IMO.

That's okay... today when I was trying to transcribe I realised it was time to stop when I couldn't work out if it was prosecution or defense talking to the witness.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

I'm rewatching todays video. I am way behind, but I just want to say...
Vampires. Really? I'm lost for words.
Definitely 'batty'

 

[Warwick7]

Casey Anthony attorney says he has 'no idea' why accused stepchild-killer Letecia Stauch said he wanted to represent her

Defense lawyer Jose Baez, who has no affiliation with the trial of an allegedly murderous stepmom in Colorado, told Law&Crime Network's Angenette Levy he doesn't know why the defendant name-dropped him in a call to her husband.

lawandcrime.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Casey Anthony attorney says he has 'no idea' why accused stepchild-killer Letecia Stauch said he wanted to represent her

Defense lawyer Jose Baez, who has no affiliation with the trial of an allegedly murderous stepmom in Colorado, told Law&Crime Network's Angenette Levy he doesn't know why the defendant name-dropped him in a call to her husband.

lawandcrime.com

I think we all know, Jose...

She watches the news and wanted to get away with murder.

MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

Serious question

What happens if one Juror decided she is not guilty by reason of insanity?

 

[Seattle1]

Really good point, as usual. What is your opinion on whether there will be more witnesses called to rebut Dr Lewis? (I know you have to use your crystal ball).

Recalling the first morning of juror selection and the Court voicing concern about Dr. Lewis's data and report, DA Allen told the Court that the state's mental health experts would be called last and he thought it would work out to get the data to them timely.

I didn't remember hearing Allen mention Dr Grimmet's name but I do recall Doctors Torres and Gray mentioned. I wonder if Dr. Gray is the state's last witness.

I was confident after Dr. Grimmet testified but wasn't impressed with how the prosecution presented Dr. Torres's two evaluations (competency and sanity).

I'll reserve judgment until hearing from the final witness on whether or not the state will have a rebuttal (and who should do it).

And I hope the prosecution redeems itself with Dr. Torres on Friday!

What do you think?

ETA: It's not clear to me if Dr. Grimmet also evaluated LS for sanity or just competency. (??)

 

[Seattle1]

Serious question

What happens if one Juror decided she is not guilty by reason of insanity?

I think Judge Werner has been great not only for the prosecution and the defense but also for the jurors. I think he will be passionate about instructing the jurors through any impasse if that should result. And if truly deadlocked, then it will be a mistrial and LS will be retried. MOO

When A Colorado Jury Can’t Reach A Verdict – What Happens Next?

By H. Michael Steinberg Colorado Criminal Defense Trial Lawyer Introduction - When Juries Deadlock When Colorado juries deadlock or reach an impasse during deliberations oftentimes by sending out ...

www.colorado-criminal-lawyer-online.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Recalling the first morning of juror selection and the Court voicing concern about Dr. Lewis's data and report, DA Allen told the Court that the state's mental health experts would be called last and he thought it would work out to get the data to them timely.

I didn't remember hearing Allen mention Dr Grimmet's name but I do recall Doctors Torres and Gray mentioned. I wonder if Dr. Gray is the state's last witness.

I was confident after Dr. Grimmet testified but wasn't impressed with how the prosecution presented Dr. Torres's two evaluations (competency and sanity).

I'll reserve judgment until hearing from the final witness on whether or not the state will have a rebuttal (and who should do it).

And I hope the prosecution redeems itself with Dr. Torres on Friday!

What do you think?

ETA: It's not clear to me if Dr. Grimmet also evaluated LS for sanity or just competency. (??)

Just competency, the second time around.

Dr Torres and Dr Grey did competency round one, sanity round one.

 

[iamshadow21]

I think Judge Werner has been great not only for the prosecution and the defense but also for the jurors. I think he will be passionate about instructing the jurors through any impasse if that should result. And if truly deadlocked, then it will be a mistrial and LS will be retried. MOO

When A Colorado Jury Can’t Reach A Verdict – What Happens Next?

By H. Michael Steinberg Colorado Criminal Defense Trial Lawyer Introduction - When Juries Deadlock When Colorado juries deadlock or reach an impasse during deliberations oftentimes by sending out ...

www.colorado-criminal-lawyer-online.com

I truly don't think we could have got a better judge on this case.

MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651412857160978433

 

[Kembo]

Let's talk about Maria.

Maria ends up being the most relevant at the time of her offense. Letecia seems more aware of her other personalities, but Maria she can't tell what she's thinking at any given time. Letecia has an awareness of Maria, but Dr. Torres says it all of it seems a bit far-fetched. DID multiple states co-existing is not presented so overtly usually, not like Letecia's personalities she's describing.​

Agree. Instead of "How do you solve a problem like Maria?" LS figured out "how to solve a problem WITH Maria."

 

[Cindizzi]

I truly don't think we could have got a better judge on this case.

MOO

I agree absolutely!

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Unspecified PD with Narcissistic and Borderline symptoms?

Her behavior is "quite consistent" with Borderline PD and with Narcissistic PD.

According to this expert.

(The not wanting a social worker, instead demanding a more "educated" person is so classic for NPD).

I was sure there was some NPD in there but I didn't see BPD, but I guess some of it could be masked with the NPD. Some pretty opposing thought processes together.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Gack... vampires, now Tupac.

Tupac? Seriously?
WT frog on a log!
She hides when she is hearing her lies, with these lies, i would do the same.

For anyone that watched Game of Thrones, I need a Shame Shame walk