CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #64

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Landen is wearing red today

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  • #602
I just feel disgusted with what the defense is trying to do ,I don't even know how that dr could testify.i really wonder what the judge is going to do .pretty sneaky of the defense I think Lewis was coaching the defendant I guess we will probably see the defendant give the best performance of her life. And the Oscar goes to dr Lewis and the defendant.jmoo

Someone like LS will take cues from Dr Lewis, even without anything resembling overt coaching. There will be microexpressions and other subtle cues as to what Dr Lewis expects from T. and T. (who I do believe is Borderline) has a superpower: which is quickly adopting the viewpoints and expectations of others, and then is able to use that in her manipulations.

Dr. Lewis is likely able to find her own form of "proof" of DID during this encounter, thereby enlivening her testimony with True Conviction (was she in doubt before???)

IMO
 
  • #603
My concern is that she used the interview to reinforce her own, already-presented ideas. Right before she is expected to testify. Easy to do and will bring more confidence to the voice and presentation of Dr. Lewis. She will be giving psychiatric impressions, but I don't see how she can exclude from her mind what happened last night.

She will almost certainly stick with the DID thing (did her report also mention Borderline? I can't remember). But the jury's sense of Dr. Lewis's confidence in her own views may be affected.

IMO.
Maybe. But I am pretty sure ALL of the experts have reinforced their already-presented ideas just before testifying. Why wouldn't they? If they've gone on the record in a report or deposition saying X, all of them will want to appear confident in saying X on the stand. While others may not have had an interview/meeting with LS (before testifying or in some cases, ever), I am pretty sure others did things like review documents, review tapes, review notes and so on. And all will have met for trial prep with attorneys who will call them to the stand.

I'm not saying Dr. L should have met with LS... Actually I'm not sure it wouldn't have been ok if it had been taped.. but the idea that Dr. L is the only expert trying to ensure her testimony is strong (assuming that's what she was doing & we don't really know) doesn't ring true. Everyone has done that in some way I'm sure.
JMO
 
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Finally back from London so I have caught up and back watching live.

This upcoming Dr Lewis is a bad egg. My bones feel it.
I think her credibility and professionalism were being questioned before today but after yesterday’s little jailhouse meet up I’m sure her integrity is going to take a battering.

As an 85 year old, I wonder how Dr. Lewis’ health is at this time. Her inability to submit her report in time, and putting her reputation on the line as a witness, has me wondering out loud.

Something just seems so innapropriate about everything surrounding this witness.

Just wondering out loud.

MOO
 
  • #606
Phone places her in the area the board was disposed of, even though she had it on airplane mode, through comparison with the data from the telematic system from the car. Use of the phone shows it was on, not turned off or left at home.
 
  • #607
We're going to be getting timelines printed on large boards - I'm presuming we won't be able to see these because they'll set them up for the jury to view, not the camera. Oh, well. We'll just have to listen along.

MOO
 
  • #608
Maybe. But I am pretty sure ALL of the experts have reinforced their already-presented ideas just before testifying. Why wouldn't they? If they've gone on the record in a report or deposition saying X, all of them will want to appear confident in saying X on the stand. While others may not have had an interview/meeting with LS (before testifying or in some cases, ever), I am pretty sure others did things like review documents, review tapes, review notes and so on. And all will have met for trial prep with attorneys who will call them to the stand.

I'm not saying Dr. L should have met with LS... Actually I'm not sure it wouldn't have been ok if it had been taped.. but the idea that Dr. L is the only expert trying to ensure her testimony is strong (assuming that's what she was doing & we don't really know) doesn't ring true. Everyone has done that in some way I'm sure.
JMO


Have they reinforced their basic diagnostic techniques by making an in-person visit to the client they are diagnosing? Because every minute spent with the defendant is a massive data point, to a psychiatrist (IME and IMO). Or to any other scientist who is studying criminals.

My point in the past few days has been that if Dr Lewis hadn't spent much time with LS, her sense of the transference (what Dr Lewis herself speaks about in interviews as a "perception of danger" emanating from a client) is way more than just going over notes (as the other experts have done). This is new data-gathering. This is using psychiatric understanding in a new and enhanced way. It isn't review. It's new information.

IMO. She *ought* to have been reviewing her previous notes, yes. Not going for a relatively long psychiatric session with the defendant.
 
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Maybe. But I am pretty sure ALL of the experts have reinforced their already-presented ideas just before testifying. Why wouldn't they? If they've gone on the record in a report or deposition saying X, all of them will want to appear confident in saying X on the stand. While others may not have had an interview/meeting with LS (before testifying or in some cases, ever), I am pretty sure others did things like review documents, review tapes, review notes and so on. And all will have met for trial prep with attorneys who will call them to the stand.

I'm not saying Dr. L should have met with LS... Actually I'm not sure it wouldn't have been ok if it had been taped.. but the idea that Dr. L is the only expert trying to ensure her testimony is strong (assuming that's what she was doing & we don't really know) doesn't ring true. Everyone has done that in some way I'm sure.
JMO
Yes, but typically to refresh, they are reviewing things that are already in the record. Not having some new opportunity to develop fresh ideas and insights. IMO
 
  • #610
I just got here. Is Dr Lewis testifying now? Who was the last witness for prosecution? Thank you.
 
  • #611
My speculation: I think T did throw the cardboard box of evidence into a construction dumpster and would have done the same with Gannon but couldn't.

If she'd been successful, would they have ever found him?

Jmo
To me, that shows that the Universe was watching over this situation.
 
  • #612
Break until 10:30.
 
  • #613
Yes, but typically to refresh, they are reviewing things that are already in the record. Not having some new opportunity to develop fresh ideas and insights. IMO
And the defense knew this. And did it anyway.

Sneaky snaky.

There now is no way to differentiate the expert's impressions up to vs after this twilight session.

Smelly helly.

Jmo
 
  • #614
I just got here. Is Dr Zlrwis testifying now? Who was the last witness for prosecution? Thank you.
It's Mr Clark, the intelligence analyst. He's threading together camera footage with data from phones and cars and other things into one big timeline.
 
  • #615
I just got here. Is Dr Lewis testifying now? Who was the last witness for prosecution? Thank you.

Prosecution is still on their last witness - a crime scene/digital forensics expert. He has shown Ring video of various movements of LS's truck and is about to present a timeline of events (with illustrations that we will likely not be able to see).
 
  • #616
Am I right in thinking that Dr Lewis will be on the stand today after dinner time break?
 
  • #617
Morning Recess Break
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Am I right in thinking that Dr Lewis will be on the stand today after dinner time break?

She will start around 1:30-1:45 local time. That's after lunch in CO.
 
  • #620
The defense did something very under-handed and their witness, who ought to know better, did as well. There is no report of that session for the judge to review and the prosecution to discover.

They are doing the old "do it now, ask forgiveness later", banking on the jovial good will of the judge. This expert is their entire case.

She should be thrown out. This was an abuse of the system, abuse of the rules of discovery, no?

Jmo
 
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