CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654657796326195200

Media says the jury failed today to....
But, that's so not right. Scott Peterson went on for days and yet he is in prison.

 

[10ofRods]

Perhaps they would have had to do something like put Little Sis on the stand to prove it, and even then it may have just been her word against LS's. Not worth it. Not when they have such a volume of evidence for the other, more serious charges. It would be different if at autopsy they'd found characteristic signs of physical abuse, as we've seen in other children. Little Sarasvati (Sherin Mathews) comes to mind, so much pain that baby endured. But the injuries Gannon endured were all perimortem, as far as I know.

MOO

Yes, they were all peri-mortem, but we cannot know (due to destruction of his body).

One theory I've had is that LS was already experiencing significant amounts of anxiety about her treatment of Gannon. He was getting older and was going to tell on her, and not just in a child's way - in an increasingly convincing way, perhaps to a mandated reported. She knew she was in trouble.

She sensed AS pulling away from her. If she sensed it, Gannon probably did too. Perhaps sweet Gannon would tell someone about his homelife?

So she decides to do something about him (she doesn't "like" him - because he holds the key to her grifting future; he can tell what he knows, and that's awful for T's American Dream).

I am not sure she set out to kill him that weekend, but I think she was practicing at first. Once he was burned (did she really mean to kill him then??) she was up the creek without a paddle.

While his body might not have told a lot about his abuse (even if discovered after a few hours), if Gannon had lived, he could have told about his abuse. That may well be the motive for this crime.

IMO. She killed him to keep him from telling his parents what was going on in that house (which likely was devious and left little physical evidence, but still involve abuse of a child - such as the frequent enemas and her likely use of his medications/giving him medications not prescribed for him).

IMO

 

[Warwick7]

Nah, jury didn't fail to reach a verdict. They're not done.

T failed. At everything in her path.

The jury is deliberating. Taking their charge seriously.

They got this.

Yes, just like the Amber Herd trial....each charge has to have a penalty.

They were even sent back to the Jury Room to calculate it.

 

[Cindizzi]

I didn’t know that judges read the jurors notes?
Have there been appeals because a juror didn’t take notes justifying their verdict? Never heard of that.

If you hear of the Judge reading a Juror’s note during trial, it’s a note given to him asking a question of the witness who’s testifying.

If you hear of the Judge reading a Juror’s note during deliberations, It’s a note sent to him wanting clarification on evidence, testimony or the instructions he’s given to them.

In those 2 instances the Judge will show the note to the lawyers and he will decide how/if to answer the Juror. If he decides it’s something he can answer he will read it and answer it aloud in open court so it’s on the record .

I have never heard of the Judge reading a Jurors own personal notes they’ve taken and never heard of them having to “ show their homework “

JMO

 

[10ofRods]

Media says the jury failed today to....
But, that's so not right. Scott Peterson went on for days and yet he is in prison.

I wish there was something we could do about this language (as you and @Megnut rightly point out). I will be unfollowing people who use this kind of language on Twitter (and you can quote me to them!) Ha.

Like they care. The idea that certain words (like "fail" get retweets is what it's about, IMO).

 

[Warwick7]

If you hear of the Judge reading a Juror’s note during trial, it’s a note given to him asking a question of the witness who’s testifying.

If you hear of the Judge reading a Juror’s note during deliberations, It’s a note sent to him wanting clarification on evidence, testimony or the instructions he’s given to them.

In those 2 instances the Judge will show the note to the lawyers and he will decide how/if to answer the Juror. If he decides it’s something he can answer he will read it and answer it aloud in open court so it’s on the record .

I have never heard of the Judge reading a Jurors own personal notes they’ve taken and never heard of them having to “ show their homework “

JMO

And there were some profound questions from the jurors... they are on target.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Good point. Score a half point for LS, I guess. She managed to obliterate crucial evidence (so NAB her on the evidence and body tampering!!!!)

Yes, it shouldn't affect the verdict. How we all deal with the mental image of the story of what happened to Gannon, I don't know. How his parents and family/friends deal with this, well - some WSers know, but I don't know from personal experience and it hurts my heart to think about it.

When my 8 yr old was home from school today, I hugged him tight, whispered I've missed you, kissed him on the head and then listened to him complain about already telling Dad what he had done at school, in the car and didn't want to tell it all over again I chuckled.

 

[ArianeEmory]

JMO, if I had been one of these jurors, especially with all the antics of Dr Lewis at the end, it wouldn’t have been hard to convince me that going home for the weekend and returning with a clear head on Monday was the right call.

And if LS spends the weekend in suspense … too bad.

 

[megs1477]

Re: Jurors, they have not been allowed to talk about the trial at all for the weeks it has gone on. Think of how much we have discussed it...It's very likely they spent much of the afternoon just talking about it.

I was on a Federal Jury once where the sentence was possibly a very long term of imprisonment. The trial lasted a whole 4 hours, then it took us 6 more to reach a verdict. Only because one person wanted to talk through every single piece of evidence and every detail, just to be sure before "ruining" someone's life. Not everyone makes their mind up while sitting in the jury box.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Yes, they were all peri-mortem, but we cannot know (due to destruction of his body).

One theory I've had is that LS was already experiencing significant amounts of anxiety about her treatment of Gannon. He was getting older and was going to tell on her, and not just in a child's way - in an increasingly convincing way, perhaps to a mandated reported. She knew she was in trouble.

She sensed AS pulling away from her. If she sensed it, Gannon probably did too. Perhaps sweet Gannon would tell someone about his homelife?

So she decides to do something about him (she doesn't "like" him - because he holds the key to her grifting future; he can tell what he knows, and that's awful for T's American Dream).

I am not sure she set out to kill him that weekend, but I think she was practicing at first. Once he was burned (did she really mean to kill him then??) she was up the creek without a paddle.

While his body might not have told a lot about his abuse (even if discovered after a few hours), if Gannon had lived, he could have told about his abuse. That may well be the motive for this crime.

IMO. She killed him to keep him from telling his parents what was going on in that house (which likely was devious and left little physical evidence, but still involve abuse of a child - such as the frequent enemas and her likely use of his medications/giving him medications not prescribed for him).

IMO

I don't know if this has been said before, so I apologise if it has. I've been pondering over a few days and as lots have noted on here before, there is snippets of truth in LS lies and she said in one of the interviews that Gannon knew she was planning to leave and wanted to be with his Mum and her story (lie) was she was going to take them back to LH.
I think Gannon had told her he wanted his Mum, and I think he said it in despair. I want to live with my mum, you are not my mum, something along those lines. I think this was what made her do it.
JMO

 

[cujenn81]

Thank you. So 4 X however long they decide to deliberate per charge. The fact that two of the charges overlap (and have LWOP consequences) might cause some jurors to deliberate longer.

I'm sad that fifth charge was dropped, though.

I have in my notes that these are the charges she’s currently facing:

• First-degree murder after deliberation
• First-degree murder of a person under 12 by someone in a position of trust
• Child abuse resulting in death
• Tampering with a deceased human body
• Tampering with physical evidence
• Seven counts of a crime of violence for using a weapon (the weapons listed in the complaint include a firearm, blunt object and sharp object)
• One count of crime of violence – causing severe bodily injury or death

Jury selection begins in Letecia Stauch trial

Stauch is accused of killing her 11-year-old stepson Gannon Stauch in January 2020.

www.9news.com

 

[Ontario Mom]

I had to step away and spend some time in my back garden. Nature therapy 101.

I can only imagine how refreshing it must have been for the jurors to finally SPILL and discuss their mutual thoughts on everything they've seen and heard. I mean, all of us here get to do it every day but they've essentially been muzzled until now. WHEW, this evening must have been a huge relief for all of them.

I had hoped they'd be able to reach a verdict quickly but I'm okay that they didn't. I suspect now they'll wrap it up Monday, first thing.

jmo

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

In a group of 12 strangers, there has to be a significant probability that at least one is a devil's advocate in personality. If not more. Fresh after the weekend with lots of hot coffee and breakfast, I'm sure the devil's advocates will be good to go.

 

[Cindizzi]

I have in my notes that these are the charges she’s currently facing:

• First-degree murder after deliberation
• First-degree murder of a person under 12 by someone in a position of trust
• Child abuse resulting in death
• Tampering with a deceased human body
• Tampering with physical evidence
• Seven counts of a crime of violence for using a weapon (the weapons listed in the complaint include a firearm, blunt object and sharp object)
• One count of crime of violence – causing severe bodily injury or death

Jury selection begins in Letecia Stauch trial

Stauch is accused of killing her 11-year-old stepson Gannon Stauch in January 2020.

www.9news.com

I believe the Jury only has to decide the verdict on counts 1 through 5. With the exception of Count 3 which was dropped.

The other charges have an SE after them which mean they are Sentence Enhancers to charges 1 and 2.

@Seattle1 please correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[iamshadow21]

I don't know if this has been said before, so I apologise if it has. I've been pondering over a few days and as lots have noted on here before, there is snippets of truth in LS lies and she said in one of the interviews that Gannon knew she was planning to leave and wanted to be with his Mum and her story (lie) was she was going to take them back to LH.
I think Gannon had told her he wanted his Mum, and I think he said it in despair. I want to live with my mum, you are not my mum, something along those lines. I think this was what made her do it.
JMO

RBBM

In my opinion, what made her do it is that she hated and resented him, and destroying him made her feel powerful.

Anyone who didn't already have that hatred in their heart and the desire to kill wouldn't consider homicide if their stepson said this. They might be hurt, they might be angry, but they would not ever in their wildest, most emotional thoughts feel that killing was a good resolution for perfectly normal, preadolescent frictions caused by growing independence and the complexities of a blended family.

What made her do it is that she selfishly thought she had the right to choose violence and act out against everybody in her life. By killing Gannon, she hurt absolutely everybody. By hiding him and lying and lying and lying, she turned the screws to an unbearable sticking point.

She's a sadist and a narcissist. It wouldn't have mattered what Gannon did or didn't say, how affectionate he was to her, none of it, because SHE decided she didn't like him, and that removing him would fix her life. Those phone calls, they're very telling. She thought Gannon's death would fix her marriage. It's sickening.

MOO

 

[cujenn81]

I believe the Jury only has to decide the verdict on counts 1 through 5. With the exception of Count 3 which was dropped.

The other charges have an SE after them which mean they are Sentence Enhancers to charges 1, 2, 4 and 5.

@Seattle1 please correct me if I’m wrong.

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Gotcha! That makes sense.

 

[arielilane]

If interested, there is summary of the prosecutor's closing arguments and so much more at link:

CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, 27 Jan 2020 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

https://gazette.com/news/courts/letecia-stauch-trial-timeline/article_de79f846-eaa2-11ed-a2ec-9348509707d8.html Closing statements are expected on Friday in the trial against Letecia Stauch, accused of killing her stepson Gannon Stauch. Here's a timeline of everything that has happened thus...

www.websleuths.com

 

[arielilane]

The jury can pick guilty, not guilty or not guilty for reason of insanity for the following charges: Murder-1st degree - after deliberation Murder-1st degree - child under 12 position of trust Tampering w/ a deceased human body Tampering w/ physical evidence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654513437915922434

https://twitter.com/FierroNicole

 

[Seattle1]

I believe the Jury only has to decide the verdict on counts 1 through 5. With the exception of Count 3 which was dropped.

The other charges have an SE after them which mean they are Sentence Enhancers to charges 1, 2, 4 and 5.

@Seattle1 please correct me if I’m wrong.

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Yes, only considered for sentencing.

Similar to the dual murder charges for only one victim but the charge will be considered during sentencing. I like to think of them as "insurance" that even if something goes wrong, they're never leaving prison.

 

[PhoneJockey]

Scott Peterson took days. But in the end he was put away where he belongs.
No doubt in my mind, I have complete faith in this jury, that they see exactly what we see, they see exactly what the community sees, and she's going to be put away. Guilty.

I think i still have the VHS recording of the verdict being read against Scott! I was cheering at my TV the way sportsfans do when their team wins. Glorious justice.