CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Handgun magazines in belt with gun
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 46s47 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes says "mission" overruled part of him that "wanted to stop." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Left Glock in car door on purpose. That’s where he was gearing up. Extra weight to carry. Had gas mask on in car

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
JH describing how he left one handgun in the car...it would have been too much weight to carry. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Opens tear gas canister while outside. Made hissing sound. Tossed to R side of theater


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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
JH opened tear gas canister while still outside, walked in and tossed it up the right hand side of the theater. #theatershooting

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Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 1m1 minute ago
One reason #TheaterShooting went to trial is for this moment. Def describes his actions, as we try to understand why. http://bit.ly/theatertrial

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH said it was “auto-pilot” not exhilarating, no caution, looking at surroundings

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Could see people trying to leave, sitting down, crouching.

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
"I could see people trying to leave..." #theatershooting

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
JH describes himself as being on "auto pilot" once he walked into the theater. #theatershooting

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Psych eval vid: Holmes-> I stored CU mental health # within week of #theatershooting in case I wanted to stop. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He couldn't see very well, scratches in the gas mask. Brighter outside than inside. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

His vision was blocked because of scratches to gas mask and going from light outside into dark theater

-Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
After he tossed tear gas cans, he reached for the shotgun. #theatershooting

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-The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Raised shotgun and saw people getting up in back L corner. Shot towards them.

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
People in the back left corner could see me, JH says, and began to get up. #theatershooting

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Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting defendant only remembers his first shotgun pull. Does not remember the rest of the shotgun shots

 

[jilly]

Zoey...........thanks for all the tweets!

 

[Amster]

This is terrifying...and, I think he's definitely lying about not seeing people hit....

 

[bexlex]

He's so detached....did he really not see bullets hit people? He acts like this is one of those old time G-rated westerns where people go down but there's no blood, etc.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Hears scream

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He heard a scream, he then shot all his shotgun rounds, tossed it on the floor. #theatershooting
Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
JH describing these moments with no emotion. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Shot all shotgun rounds. Tossed shotgun on floor. Shot 5-6 rounds to people in L corner

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
Switch to AR-15. #theatershooting

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Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting defendant describes not remembering or knowing who he was shooting with shotgun and AR-15. http://bit.ly/theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Switched to AR-15 - Doesn’t remember where he shot that. But a few tried to run away and he shot at them

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
2 people were trying to run away so I shot 3 shots at them. I can't have everyone running away -JH. #theatershooting

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

“I can’t have everybody running away. I am out of control of the situation

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

While firing 2 people got up and after 4 people carried a guy out and they got out back exit
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Same exit JH entered

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

While firing 2 people got up and after 4 people carried a guy out and they got out back exit

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Firing AR with gas mask - put it up to shoulder. Had scope on it but didn’t use it. I just shot randomly

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 3m3 minutes ago
The "specific" people he shot were the 2 trying to run. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Couldn’t tell who was hit or not; couldn’t see. Didn’t see anyone fall form being shot. They got down pretty fast

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Saw one big guy they carried out kind of flop but I didn’t see where I hit him
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Never saw the moment of impact on anyone

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 3m3 minutes ago
JH doesn't remembering seeing his bullets hit anyone. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Sound: I had music to drown out sounds & I guess i didn’t hear much. Music @ full volume. Don’t remember hearing gunshots
Music was techno
Could hear gun shots on gun range with music but not in theater
Used wireless headphones

I think it was chaotic situation and I think i heard them but don’t recall the gunshots
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 3m3 minutes ago
Apparently he practiced on the range with the music. "I did hear the gunshots with the music out on the range." #theatershooting

 

[LyndyLoo]

JH is lying his face off!! He didn't remember hearing the music that was blaring into ears full blast!! Geesh!!!

I know he wanted everything to be impersonal..BUT really..IF he heard that screams at first..Then he heard the music too which he purposely used to drown out the actions of his carnage :gaah:

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

You said you heard people scream?

JH- 1 person in beginning but nothing after that. Music set to play whole time

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Didn’t really hear music either. Doesn’t know if it played the whole time

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Couldn’t smell b/c of gas mask.

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Doens’t recall any physical sensations at all

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Psych eval vid: Holmes-> I was on "auto-pilot" during #theatershooting. Didn't enter w/ exhilaration or caution. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
With no emotion, "There's an emergency exit, I go inside and shoot people from the corner" #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH recalls 2 corridors with exits that go to lobby area

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Went half way to other exits on L side from exit doors. As he walked, checked weapon. Discharge mag that misfired

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
JH says he went half-way down the aisle toward the lobby doors. He was checking the weapon, trying to change magazine #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Tried to put new one in and it wouldn’t click in. Walking b/c he couldnt see

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

“Safer spot” to reload because they couldn’t see him in the corridor

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
JH gun jammed and was trying to reload with new magazine. "It was a safer place to reload because they couldn't see me" #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

When mags wouldn’t click, he shot some handgun rounds but doesn’t remember shooting handgun

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He couldn't get new magazine to click into the gun. #theatershooting

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He couldn't get new magazine to click into the gun. #theatershooting

 

[shiloh42]

I think he's totally disassociated from the impact of his actions. All he cared about was achieving the deaths and he was trying to block out the effects. That's why the music was playing so loud. This is so strongly establishing that he knew what he was doing was both societally wrong and illegal.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Shootings all in 1 corner according to JH. Says he didn’t walk up into stands.

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH said he couldn't see well in theater #theatershooting #theatertrial

--Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He doesn't remember shooting the handgun but knows because "it got reviewed with lawyers in court" #theatershooting
Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
He didn't walk up in the "stands" #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH had practiced reloading magazines
Reloading difficult - Didn’t work - mainly b/c it was too dark and hard to see
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH says he didn't walk up into stands #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
JH thinks lack of visibility was preventing him from clicking the magazine in correctly. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH didn’t know mags less filled had smaller chance of jamming

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH didn’t know mags less filled had smaller chance of jamming

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Remembers looking at stands, they were empty except 1st row where people were ducking down

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
"I looked at the stands and the seats were completely empty except the front row where people were ducking down." #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

He says the people inside were likely experiencing terror, very afraid, kind of unbelieving that could happen

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Contrary 2 victim testimony indicating he fired wildly, Holmes says he targeted those who stood up/ran away

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

When someone near them gets shot people would feel there should be help coming. When they get shot - shock

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH said he turned and looked into stands before leaving and it was empty except for some hiding #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reaching out for help. (Reid asking JH his opinions on how victims felt

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Julie Hayden ‏@HaydenTV · 1m1 minute ago
Shooter calmly describing how he opened fire on people in #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Doesn’t remember whet it felt like to pull trigger. Used gloves

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH says people would probably feel terror from him shooting #theatershooting #theatertrial

--Julie Hayden ‏@HaydenTV · 2m2 minutes ago
Says he imagines the people felt "terror"
#theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Fire alarm/emergency alarm went off. I didn’t hear it. Probably making noise. Theater was dark. Movie played whole time

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr.: What do you suppose the people heard , not having earbuds in? JH: yelling and screaming and the alarm. #theatershooting

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH has never been seriously injured #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes only heard 1 scream at beginning. Music on headphones drowned out sound. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting psych eval vid: Holmes only heard 1 scream at beginning. Music on headphones drowned out sound. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1JmNJws

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH said he didn't hear the alarms going off in theater #theatershooting #theatertrial

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[Maisiebelle]

This is really upsetting to read. He has such a good memory of that night. How many people got out the emergency exit etc

I think he is proud of his 'work'.


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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Fired shotgun 1st (4-5) shots

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

You wanted to kill people?

JH- Right

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH tells Dr bullets went through seats and hit people...#theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH thought people would be running & hunkering down.That’s why he left an exit row available so they wouldn’t run R aisle

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid - You said you wanted to shoot them while the escaped.

JH - I was blocking L aisle and exit. I left them that exit

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7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 58s58 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting: Holmes can't recall himself firing, but can see bullets going towards seats http://bit.ly/1DTwGLZ

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 50s50 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH - It was far from me so they wouldn’t attack me

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

It was a “pressure relief valve” -

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 47s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Shot at those going out R side. 3 shots went into theater 8 - don’t think I hit anyone. I was aiming at them

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 57s57 seconds ago
JH said the plan was to contain people but he left an exit open #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 55s55 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH - I didn’t create a “killing chute

 

[zoey]

This is really upsetting to read. He has such a good memory of that night. How many people got out the emergency exit etc

I think he is proud of his 'work'.


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yes--He is reliving it and enjoying his "mission"

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

No reasonable probability someone he knew would be in theater b/c of other choices. Had to be in theater 9, not 8 or 10

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH didn't know the bullets would go into theater #8 #theatertrial #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Went to theaters to see moviesTheater was close enough fellow students could have gone to it

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH usually went with someone he knew

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Never saw someone he knew while going to movies

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH remembers re loading, gun jamming and one scream but that's it over his loud music. #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

When shooting was over he thought he hit maybe 20 people and killed only 3. Wans’t sure he killed anyone
Only knew people were dead when he heard it on police radio while in car.

JH - They said I shot 50-60 rounds in court. His impression was maybe 40-45 and one snail loader which had 100
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 54s55 seconds ago
JH thought he hit 20 people and maybe killed 3 but he wasn't sure of any deaths #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 51s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Handgun rounds - shot maybe 10
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

As he was going out - his thought was police presence

 

[Amster]

Guy in front row smiling??

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

What sticks out JH - Guy on front row was smiling. This was when JH was leaving to exit building. JH says stress reaction

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH says the guy was alive

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
"At one point this guy was smiling. I thought that was odd." #theatershooting

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. asks JH what he thinks about the guy smiling. "It was probably a stress reaction" #theatershooting

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7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 2m2 minutes ago
Holmes said he thought one of the victims in front row was smiling - wondered why #theatershooting
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
"Nervous or anxious smile" JH said he had no feelings about that. #theatershooting

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH said one thing he remembers is a guy in the front row of theater was smiling #theatershooting #theatertrial


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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH said one thing he remembers is a guy in the front row of theater was smiling #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH doesn’t remember why he left: to fix AR or if he was done shooting.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Went to light in corridor to fix AR.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Once he couldn’t fix it, tossed AR outside and left theater

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
When asked if that is why he left (to load the AR) , JH says either that or "I was done, I don't really remember" #theatershooting

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
"I'd shot enough rounds" - JH #theatershooting

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Says he may have left because he had shot enough rounds and was finished. Others had gone through. 4 ppl carrying wounded

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Going outside, JH sees car parked along road (police) so he figured police already there. Went to car, opened door


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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Saw 2 more police approach L.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Saw on ground some small blood smears

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Stood by car and watches

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
JH stares straight ahead during the entire time his video interview is being played. #theatershooting

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[zoey]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
JH put his hands up as the officers walked toward him. "They wouldn't shoot me because I was surrendering" #theatershooting
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Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 53s53 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting def didn't think PD would shoot him because he made surrendering motion. Doc asked if he would have done same for victims

 

[bexlex]

community is more tightly knit?????