CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #45*ARREST*

[AgeofAquaruis]

I'm very curious to see their individual movements during the time that they followed through on conspiracy to murder PF's wife. They were not always in the same place - almost frantically trying to cover their tracks. I'd like to map this out, as I'm curious about what they were thinking.

Kelsey was not PF's wife.

 

[Yellow Rose]

I didn't realize they call those plastic containers (what I refer to as storage containers) totes. Totes always made me think of strong fabric handled bags.....small ones to extra large ones. But if paragraph 71 says plastic.....then I learned something new

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Arson plays a part here because, imo, as I mentioned before many
homicidal perps have a special fascination with fire. Many juveniles who start out their lifelong crime sprees begin with arson.
In PF's mind, the act of burning her body totally extinguished
her from his mind. All the tension, stress and anguish that he
felt KB caused him could be erased if she were burned up.
Gone. Forever. In HIS MIND.

Isn't there a Triad of hurting animals, bedwetting later in life than normal, and Fire that is a marker for some dysfunction?

 

[oviedo]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-Footlocker-Black/16415912 - perhaps he purchased this one?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Dave can I add that KB body still had heat in it for several hours that could contribute to the discoloration.

Ugghhhhhhhh. This makes me wonder if she was still alive,barely cleaning to life, when they went and got her, which really freaked them out, so one or the other shot her to finish her off. That would explain the missing bullet.
MOO.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Isn't there a Triad of hurting animals, bedwetting later in life than normal, and Fire that is a marker for some dysfunction?

I always understand those three things could easily signify traits of a serial killer.

 

[susiQ]

Like conspiracy things. ITA. Can't stand her, or PF, but thankfully she is the weakest link. I wish there was a way to track the burner phones,and data.
Because only three years or less is just shocking.
I wonder if she even realizes she destroyed more than Kelsey's life, in the vortex she created. For Her old flame,she carried a torch for. Quite literally.
She obviously thought it was not to big a deal he talked about smashing Kelsey's head in with a baseball bat. As long as it wasn't her head,and as long as she could force him to do the deed.
MOO.

I seriously don't think KK could "force" PF to do anything. The fact that she wouldn't/couldn't follow through fast enough, left him with no other option. Well, actually it did. He could have NOT done it and we wouldn't be here discussing this insane murder But, having said that, I actually think that if PF had abandoned his efforts to kill KB, KK WOULD have found a way to do it. She wanted her man, and she wanted KB gone, no matter what.

 

[oviedo]

Good point about them attempting to hide baby K, I wonder if PF was going to hide out with her, since they took two cars. Could be they were heading to one of the ranchers he knew, most have multiple homes on their property. Also, they would have headed south since LE was coming from the north. all is jmo

Is it at all possible that KK told him about the FBI via text? And that's why they were leaving (if they were leaving) the ranch that day in two separate cars. I'm certain the FBI has their phone records IMO.

 

[oviedo]

Like conspiracy things. ITA. Can't stand her, or PF, but thankfully she is the weakest link. I wish there was a way to track the burner phones,and data.
Because only three years or less is just shocking.
I wonder if she even realizes she destroyed more than Kelsey's life, in the vortex she created. For Her old flame,she carried a torch for. Quite literally.
She obviously thought it was not to big a deal he talked about smashing Kelsey's head in with a baseball bat. As long as it wasn't her head,and as long as she could force him to do the deed.
MOO.

They used the burner phones which have phone numbers - I think it is possible they might be able to get that data but I don't know for sure. JMO.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Gosh!! that's the prettiest chain link fence with the frost. So much hoping within the next few weeks they'll be able to locate Kelsey's remains and bring them home.

That photo, and the sunset that was put up here the other day, I have downloaded. Both of them are really great journalistic photos.

They both seem to relay a meaning. And the meaning of this one with the spiking Frost going in all directions, was very striking photojournalism.

 

[susiQ]

Ugghhhhhhhh. This makes me wonder if she was still alive,barely cleaning to life, when they went and got her, which really freaked them out, so one or the other shot her to finish her off. That would explain the missing bullet.
MOO.

Sorry. Can't even go there

 

[skycountry]

Is it at all possible that KK told him about the FBI via text? And that's why they were leaving (if they were leaving) the ranch that day in two separate cars. I'm certain the FBI has their phone records IMO.

Not sure KK would have, since she had just spent 4 hours at CSPD giving the FBI, and CBI, all the dirt on PF the day before his arrest. Is possible he used a burner phone, but he would have had to ditch it fast as LE was right at his front gate on Friday bright and early. Maybe he tossed it in the woodstove after getting his heads up call.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Slater said that after Lee returned to Idaho, she gave the gun to a friend. Investigators retrieved the gun from the man and confirmed it had been purchased and owned by Berreth.

Kelsey Berreth murder case: Patrick Frazee, nurse's affair fueled conspiracy

After reading this, I am hoping in the trial the DA will bring out all the things KK did. It was a lot more than a simple moving of the phone from one State to another that she was charged with. If the DA won’t, you can bet the defense will.

She did every evil thing connected with the murder except the actual murder itself. Her involvement was massive.

 

[HayLouise]

KRDO NewsChannel 13‏Verified account @KRDONC13

UPDATE: Authorities are set to search for the remains of Kelsey Berreth in the Midway Landfill today. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: https://www.krdo.com/1039591957

KRDO NewsChannel 13 on Twitter

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

How in God's name did she do all of this:

Arrived at Patrick's to pick up key to Kelsey's townhouse, after driving for six hours- 7:30 am?
drives 25 more minutes to Kelsey's townhouse
Cleans 3-4 hours
drives to Sonic to get something to eat
drives to Patrick's, to which from there, they take off to Nash ranch
Helps get Kelsey's body down from hay stacked in loft
drives back to Patrick's
Sets up a fire, watches as remains and tote are burned
eats pizza
Then leaves to drive back home?

Drugs. Maybe Providgil, Ritalin,or something similar. Which are schedule one,and perscription only.
If she used the hospital to dump stuff, No way anyone could put it past her to steal drugs,or forge a scrip.
MOO.

 

[HayLouise]

Emily Allen FOX31‏Verified account @EmilyAReports

Here’s what the search for Kelsey Berreth looks like from where we stand. A group of searchers filed into the yellow tent about 15 mins ago. There’s an excavator positioned on the hill above the tent. Long row of cars gives perspective on how many will be involved in this effort

Emily Allen FOX31 on Twitter

(Video at link)

 

[susiQ]

Is it at all possible that KK told him about the FBI via text? And that's why they were leaving (if they were leaving) the ranch that day in two separate cars. I'm certain the FBI has their phone records IMO.

The reason I don't think she did is she was already negotiating her deal with her lawyer. It would have been beyond stupid on her part to jeopardize the deal she was about to get by alerting PF to her FBI interview and deal with the DA. JMO

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

*Please pass this post right on by if this has been discussed, as I am dayyyys behind in dear Kelsey's forum*
IMHO In watching various MSM courtroom footage from 2/20/19, KK appears pregnant. Please let me be wrong.

Yes. Why only phone in,and no video, or actually in person appearance?

 

[Dave F.]

Dave, could you please repost that pic? I think it's probably closest to what I would imagine he used.

Sure!

 

[enelram]

OK, in the Arrest Affidavit paragraph 71, it calls the thing a
"Black Plastic Tote with Silver Handles."
Here's a cheap one from Walmart- $20.98 ea.
comments say it's not waterproof but indicates it may leak from around the lid and body of tote.
I know KB was tiny but would she fit in this? Also little wheels.