CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #45*ARREST*

[skycountry]

You really have to admire the LE who are searching at the landfill. Don’t know if many of you have been to a landfill but the stench is horrible. To think they would be there all day, day after day is just beyond duty. I pray for Kelsey’s family, that the search will find some remains that can be buried so that they will have answers as facts. And facts that didn’t come from KK. There is no doubt she gave LE information but she is such a liar.

I am sure they have some tricks for the smell, one nurse told me her, and her staff used to pour some minty mouthwash inside their breathing masks, helps with any smell.

 

[ilovechili]

Like conspiracy things. ITA. Can't stand her, or PF, but thankfully she is the weakest link. I wish there was a way to track the burner phones,and data.
Because only three years or less is just shocking.
I wonder if she even realizes she destroyed more than Kelsey's life, in the vortex she created. For Her old flame,she carried a torch for. Quite literally.
She obviously thought it was not to big a deal he talked about smashing Kelsey's head in with a baseball bat. As long as it wasn't her head,and as long as she could force him to do the deed.
MOO.

She would in no way talk to them and when she did she lied, no reason to trust her, and she would not give them her phone and she destroyed phones. I can only think of one reason for that and it is because it would show the truth in a way we do not know it.

She has people lending her cars, weapons, lying to her husband for her; she has an ex-husband who has stayed and allegedly takes her shopping for a new phone, pays for it but must be on to some of her manipulation because it sounds as if he also checks her phone, etc. to check on her. Odd divorce.

No idea who was who but she had no problem in wanting this done and her manipulation of others is shown above. I also think the bullet missing is in Kelsey most likely. They are both evil and manipulative. PF manipulated KB or at least tried to but I sense it may have been coming undone. Just my own speculation as well.

Was this to be their last victim? I mean if you can do this, what can't you do?

They are both evil and manipulative.

 

[Steelslady]

Emily Allen FOX31‏Verified account @EmilyAReports

Here’s what the search for Kelsey Berreth looks like from where we stand. A group of searchers filed into the yellow tent about 15 mins ago. There’s an excavator positioned on the hill above the tent. Long row of cars gives perspective on how many will be involved in this effort

Emily Allen FOX31 on Twitter

(Video at link)

Fingers crossed they find something of poor Kelsey's remains as well as any evidence from that day. Thinking of her family- they must be on pins and needles right now. This needs to end for them, they've been through enough.

 

[Hatch]

Cold hearted. Playing all nice,and sweet. While she was screwing PF. behind Kelsey's back. Cheating on her ex who stood by her in spite of her cheating on him.
They scraped the bottom of the barrel for "The Perfect Rodeo Queen" when they picked her.
MOO

@MassGuy can you link her statement plz. I have lost my link to it.

 

[susiQ]

Wasn't there an article that talked about a neighbor or somebody saying that PF cheated on a previous girlfriend when another girlfriend "was in the hospital". It was an article right after he was arrested if I recall correctly.

I can't recall where I saw that, but I don't follow Facebook stuff so it must not have been there it had to have been mainstream Media. Or from another post here.

Does anyone else recall such? Does anyone have a link to such as this post just made me remember such.

ETA. I'm searching the thread and mainstream through Google and I can't find it, but I know I saw it.

I recall reading about this also, but can't remember where.

I wonder how his "exes" feel now, bet they are happy they weren't the recipients of his murderous ways. Wonder why we haven't heard from any of them?

Edit - found mention of the cheating on g/f in hospital in a Daily Mail article.

Yes. The current boyfriend of the former gf of PF. He said PF cheated on her while she was in the hospital. Then he said “take that as you will”.
In other words, PF has the morals of a snake, IMO.

The article mentioning PF's ex girlfriend's boyfriend came out very early on in the Daily Mail. Don't have the link, but that's where it was stated.

 

[Hatch]

The article mentioning PF's ex girlfriend's boyfriend came out very early on in the Daily Mail. Don't have the link, but that's where it was stated.

I was confused on this statement, was not sure if he cheated on KB while she was in the hospital or the ex girlfriend .

 

[susiQ]

She would in no way talk to them and when she did she lied, no reason to trust her, and she would not give them her phone and she destroyed phones. I can only think of one reason for that and it is because it would show the truth in a way we do not know it.

She has people lending her cars, weapons, lying to her husband for her; she has an ex-husband who has stayed and allegedly takes her shopping for a new phone, pays for it but must be on to some of her manipulation because it sounds as if he also checks her phone, etc. to check on her. Odd divorce.

No idea who was who but she had no problem in wanting this done and her manipulation of others is shown above. I also think the bullet missing is in Kelsey most likely. They are both evil and manipulative. PF manipulated KB or at least tried to but I sense it may have been coming undone. Just my own speculation as well.

Was this to be their last victim? I mean if you can do this, what can't you do?

They are both evil and manipulative.

A really good chance if they'd gotten away with this that KK would have been his next victim!

 

[AnnaGrace]

I am sure they have some tricks for the smell, one nurse told me her, and her staff used to pour some minty mouthwash inside their breathing masks, helps with any smell.

I've been told they smear a little Vick's salve under their nose and then put on the mask. I personally would need a blindfold too. It's good there's people that can do this.

 

[susiQ]

I was confused on this statement, was not sure if he cheated on KB while she was in the hospital or the ex girlfriend .

I don't know if he was cheating on her with KB, as I think it may have been KK? Not entirely sure.

 

[PommyMommy]

Yet even burner phones use one of the big four Tower Services. If they do Tower dumps for specific days, they could cross reference. And if they just knew one of those burner phones cell phones numbers, they could backtrack. Unless of course, they both got burner phones on the same day, and dispose of the burner phones that they had on the same day. And they would not be able to Hopscotch back. This is going to be an interesting one.

BBM

The data is no longer available.

Cell phone data is key to cracking Berreth case, expert says
Pfoff said investigators could have asked for what he calls a ‘tower dump’, gaining access to all of the numbers for phones that pinged off the tower that day.

However, he said towers only hold that data for three to five days.

 

[ilovechili]

A really good chance if they'd gotten away with this that KK would have been his next victim!

Certainly a possibility.

 

[Herat]

I am sure they have some tricks for the smell, one nurse told me her, and her staff used to pour some minty mouthwash inside their breathing masks, helps with any smell.

VapoRub is better. Longer staying power.

 

[PommyMommy]

Wasn't there an article that talked about a neighbor or somebody saying that PF cheated on a previous girlfriend when another girlfriend "was in the hospital". It was an article right after he was arrested if I recall correctly.

I can't recall where I saw that, but I don't follow Facebook stuff so it must not have been there it had to have been mainstream Media. Or from another post here.

Does anyone else recall such? Does anyone have a link to such as this post just made me remember such.

ETA. I'm searching the thread and mainstream through Google and I can't find it, but I know I saw it.

I was confused on this statement, was not sure if he cheated on KB while she was in the hospital or the ex girlfriend .

Neighbors described fiancé of missing Colorado woman as 'quiet' and 'good' | Daily Mail Online
A former girlfriend who dated Frazee more than six years ago declined to speak to DailyMail.com but her current partner said: 'He cheated on her while she was in the hospital, take that for what it's worth.'

Asked whether Frazee was ever abusive, he said: 'He never beat on them (girlfriends) or anything like that. On animals he was rough, he was pretty aggressive with dogs and horses.

 

[skycountry]

I recall reading about this also, but can't remember where.

I wonder how his "exes" feel now, bet they are happy they weren't the recipients of his murderous ways. Wonder why we haven't heard from any of them?

Edit - found mention of the cheating on g/f in hospital in a Daily Mail article.

Old time ranch families, and the roping families in the Florissant area that I know of are buttoned down tight. I tried to go on a few of their SM pages, but no access to outsiders. I am sure some are as shocked as the rest of us, others, I am guessing, not so much. We have some BIG time ex rodeo people in the area too, retired now, they are in their 50's and 60's. Believe it or not, two of them have ranches or ties to the Guffey area. One ex champion bull rider, and one of the first woman to compete and win bull riding in the pro circuit. I have been in this area for almost 40 years.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I seriously don't think KK could "force" PF to do anything. The fact that she wouldn't/couldn't follow through fast enough, left him with no other option. Well, actually it did. He could have NOT done it and we wouldn't be here discussing this insane murder But, having said that, I actually think that if PF had abandoned his efforts to kill KB, KK WOULD have found a way to do it. She wanted her man, and she wanted KB gone, no matter what.

Well in the end forcefully,scary PF wound up doing the job, he tried so hard to get KK to do. How many people did she manipulate along the way. Like the saying goes you catch more bees with honey. Still I don't think she would have done it herself.
MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

Landfill search for Kelsey Berreth’s remains begins Tuesday
Authorities will search for eight hours a day for 35 days, according to CNN. The 10 searchers will have to scour 686,805 cubic yards. In total, the primary target area is 135 feet by 32 feet and 9 inches deep. The bigger search area is 250 feet by 125 feet and 25 feet deep.

The estimated time frame could change based on their progress, Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams told CNN. An excavator will remove the trash to another location and lay it out in lines so that searchers can sift through the material, he said.

Searchers will typically set up a grid and a create subsections, then remove material layer by layer to another area for closer inspection, Vicki Wedel, an associate professor of anatomy at Western University of Health Sciences in California, told CNN.

Searchers pass the material through a wire mesh so they can look at it as closely as possible, she said. That's why it takes so long.

 

[makayla]

Old time ranch families, and the roping families in the Florissant area that I know of are buttoned down tight. I tried to go on a few of their SM pages, but no access to outsiders. I am sure some are as shocked as the rest of us, others, I am guessing, not so much. We have some BIG time ex rodeo people in the area too, retired now, they are in their 50's and 60's. Believe it or not, two of them have ranches or ties to the Guffey area. One ex champion bull rider, and the first woman to compete and win bull riding in the pro circuit. I have been in this area for almost 40 years.

Thank you for sharing that, especially because you’re very familiar with this area. I imagine there may be some folks there who circled the wagons around PF, just like the ones in Idaho did for KK.

 

[MsBetsy]

I don't know if he was cheating on her with KB, as I think it may have been KK? Not entirely sure.

It was probably a different woman, since it had been several years ago. It could have been anybody. He may have cheated on several girlfriends with several women, for all we know. Sounds like it was a pattern for him. Jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

VIDEO: Crews arrive at Fountain landfill to begin search for Kelsey Berreth's remains
Investigators began arriving at the Midway Landfill in Fountain Tuesday morning to begin looking for the remains of Kelsey Berreth.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Wasn't there an article that talked about a neighbor or somebody saying that PF cheated on a previous girlfriend when another girlfriend "was in the hospital". It was an article right after he was arrested if I recall correctly.

I can't recall where I saw that, but I don't follow Facebook stuff so it must not have been there it had to have been mainstream Media. Or from another post here.

Does anyone else recall such? Does anyone have a link to such as this post just made me remember such.

ETA. I'm searching the thread and mainstream through Google and I can't find it, but I know I saw it.

It was the previous girlfriends current boyfriend that said that. Not sure what article or publication it was in though.