CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #56 *ARREST*

[girlhasnoname]

I meant to elaborate a little further above- he doesn't appear to have any respect for women. Starting with his mother.....

ITA and I feel confident saying he doesn't appear to have any respect for women. children or animals and those people scare the bejezus out of me! Pure pathology IMO.

 

[GordianKnot]

But while testifying for the defense on how PF is her favorite son, and brilliant father, she'll bring out her archived bag of tricks including:

PF's plaster hand print from primary school, that decorated paper plate turkey from grade 1, etc., And wait -- the unforgettable HS rodeo trophy-- all perfect evidence why PF as the murderer is absolutely impossible!

MOO

I sure hope so!

Because I can just hear DA May on cross and/or redirect now:

"Ma F., thank you for sharing those heartwarming anecdotal stories of l'il PF as a boy roping horses at the rodeo...
Speaking of animals, Miz F., have you ever witnessed PF hitting, kicking or otherwise abusing animals, or human beings for that matter?"

SF: "I refuse to answer on the ground that I may incriminate myself."

DA May: "Of course you do. Let's move on. Miz F., thank you for telling us all about the many activities PF was involved in as a young boy. Did he learn how to light bonfires in Boy Scouts, or did you teach him his fire-setting skills at home yourself?"

SF: "I refuse to answer on the ground that I may incriminate myself."

DA May: "I understand, you're in something of a precarious position here. We'll talk about something less "inflammatory," shall we? You've testified that PF showed artistic talent as evidenced by his decorated turkey plate from Grade 1. I'm wondering if he was interested in sports as a youth as well; specifically, baseball, and whether or not he or his brother left their baseball equipment lying around in storage there at the franch.
For example, are there any aluminum baseball bats that mysteriously went missing around Thanksgiving of last year?"

SF: "I refuse to answer on the ground that I may incriminate myself."

DA May: "No further questions. I think we just got all our questions answered."

Public Defender: "Objection, Your Honor!"

DA May: "Withdrawn."

She's going to get skewered.

JMO.

 

[GordianKnot]

Those attorneys aren’t liable because they didn’t help PF commit a crime. They didn’t go to the police, which isn’t illegal.

SF’s exposure must be something else, as her attorney apparently advised that she take the Fifth.

I think it’s possible that she’s worried about being an accessory after the fact.

Well, PF has demonstrated a propensity for using the women in his life as maids, i.e., "You've got a mess to clean up."

I'm wondering if he made another mess at the franch.
Bloody Swiffer, bloody bleach bottle, bloody swab in washing machine, etc., etc.

Somebody did some cleanup there.

Question is: Who?

JMO.

 

[Steelslady]

I would love to agree with her, that she left blood as "clues". However, (now) knowing she went to Vegas, ate at Sonic, ate pizza at the Frazee Palace, took naps.....look, y'all I don't see anything other than pure unadulterated laziness on her part. "Clues", my tushie! She left what she left because she "didn't feel like" cleaning up the whole mess! It's a lot of work cleaning a grizzly, half dried crime scene. And even harder if you just don't feel like doing it. The "clues" statement was only made as a half-tushied attempt at being helpful to LE. KK is in the same league as PF. Their both equally evil.

MOO,MOO

Welllllll, KK did have a long drive back and forth, ya know. A girl gets hungry and tired after all of that driving and then cleaning up in scrubs and gloves. I do think she knew exactly where evidence wasn't cleaned, but would never have told another soul, except maybe her BFF, if she hadn't been caught. She thinks she's so smart, leaving so called evidence behind "just in case" she was caught- it was her bargaining chip to get out of this mess or not spend the rest of her life in a cage. Part of it may have been laziness for sure, but I also suspect she kept track of a few spots........just in case.

I can't wait to see her on the stand as well as Ma F "pleading the 5th".

 

[Steelslady]

But while testifying for the defense on how PF is her favorite son, and brilliant father, she'll bring out her archived bag of tricks including:

PF's plaster hand print from primary school, that decorated paper plate turkey from grade 1, etc., And wait -- the unforgettable HS rodeo trophy-- all perfect evidence why PF as the murderer is absolutely impossible!

MOO

Glad I wasn't drinking anything while reading the bolded part or I wouldn't have a clean screen.

Is Ma F even that sentimental?

 

[Steelslady]

That, coupled with police really not looking at the condo as a crime scene.

It took some time before LE believed that KB was involuntarily missing.

PF did a good job promoting to WPPD that KB was one unstable, woman that took off to see her grandmother, and left her child behind.

So did his wonderful sister, on here and elsewhere- until her brother got locked up and her Mama was cuffed briefly out on the ranch but let go.

I wonder how his dear brother in LE helped out on Thanksgiving or shortly after- probably coached him to remain silent.

This family is a winner.

 

[PommyMommy]

Welllllll, KK did have a long drive back and forth, ya know. A girl gets hungry and tired after all of that driving and then cleaning up in scrubs and gloves. I do think she knew exactly where evidence wasn't cleaned, but would never have told another soul, except maybe her BFF, if she hadn't been caught. She thinks she's so smart, leaving so called evidence behind "just in case" she was caught- it was her bargaining chip to get out of this mess or not spend the rest of her life in a cage. Part of it may have been laziness for sure, but I also suspect she kept track of a few spots........just in case.

I can't wait to see her on the stand as well as Ma F "pleading the 5th".

I hope you don't have your heart set on seeing her on the stand because I really doubt that the judge is going to allow photos or video.

I sure would love it if he did, though. MOO

 

[?mysterian?]

That, coupled with police really not looking at the condo as a crime scene.

It took some time before LE believed that KB was involuntarily missing.

PF did a good job promoting to WPPD that KB was one unstable, woman that took off to see her grandmother, and left her child behind.

Yes, and I wonder about PF's relationship(s) with local LE prior to Thanksgiving Day, since he's a local with a brother in LE in a neighboring city--if he was familiar with/to local LE, maybe the responding officer(s) were willing to believe him and not check KB's home as thoroughly as it could've been checked. IMO. Or maybe not.

 

[Seattle1]

Glad I wasn't drinking anything while reading the bolded part or I wouldn't have a clean screen.

Is Ma F even that sentimental?

^^BBM

Haaaa...

Given that SF apparently saved a variety of human teeth at her residence, I'm assuming she has some sentiment -- but only for her golden son, PF.

Such a good boy-- living with mommy his entire life. Wouldn't leave home -- not even for his fiancee and baby girl.

 

[Steelslady]

ITA and I feel confident saying he doesn't appear to have any respect for women. children or animals and those people scare the bejezus out of me! Pure pathology IMO.

Exactly. Many times, I've seen men who don't respect their mothers, turn into abusive monsters not only to women, but children and animals as well.

What bothers me is his so called "worry" about his daughter being abused by Kelsey- to which he discussed with his sidekick. The story about the baby burning herself on the curling iron- I mean, really?

 

[GordianKnot]

I hope you don't have your heart set on seeing her on the stand because I really doubt that the judge is going to allow photos or video.

I sure would love it if he did, though. MOO

Oh, but Pommy, don't forget the sketch artist!

I hope they're using the same sketch artist at trial that they used at this hearing, b/c that artist did a masterful job of doing no favors whatsoever to his/her subjects.

The colored pencils definitely add 15 pounds.
That's probably a conservative estimate.

JMO.

 

[susiQ]

I can understand why SF doesn't want to say anything that could reflect badly on PF.

What I can't understand is what she herself could have possibly done that she thinks might make her personally subject to criminal prosecution.

If she's potentially subject to prosecution just for knowing something about PF's activities and keeping her mouth shut, then surely KK's friend and the husband/wife attorneys she talked to are equally criminally liable.

Maybe we'll find out what KK knows about SF?

 

[GordianKnot]

^^BBM

Haaaa...

Given that SF apparently saved a variety of human teeth at her residence, I'm assuming she has some sentiment -- but only for her golden son, PF.

Such a good boy-- living with mommy his entire life. Wouldn't leave home -- not even for his fiancee and baby girl.

"Well, a boy's best friend is his mother." - Norman Bates

 

[susiQ]

Oh, but Pommy, don't forget the sketch artist!

I hope they're using the same sketch artist at trial that they used at this hearing, b/c that artist did a masterful job of doing no favors whatsoever to his subject.

We're talking, the colored pencils definitely add 15 pounds.

JMO.

I'm guessing he'll look worse bald as an eagle Don't forget to bring your Uncle Fester avatar to trial day GK, whenever that happens.

 

[PommyMommy]

Oh, but Pommy, don't forget the sketch artist!

I hope they're using the same sketch artist at trial that they used at this hearing, b/c that artist did a masterful job of doing no favors whatsoever to his subject.

We're talking, the colored pencils definitely add 15 pounds.

JMO.

I may have said this before but I think he looks like a Ninja Turtle in that sketch. No offense to Raphael. Interestingly, Raphael is short-tempered, sullen, and aggressive. MOO

 

[Steelslady]

^^BBM

Haaaa...

Given that SF apparently saved a variety of human teeth at her residence, I'm assuming she has some sentiment -- but only for her golden son, PF.

Such a good boy-- living with mommy his entire life. Wouldn't leave home -- not even for his fiancee and baby girl.

Are we sure those human teeth are Patrick's, haha? Or her other children's?

Forgive me, maybe it's that Halloween vibe, but what you wrote gave me the creeps- truthful no doubt, but creepy, under the circumstances.

It still amazes me that both dumb and dumber burned Kelsey on Ma's ranch- didn't Ma complain about her septic tank not working after or something when LE came over and dug around their fire pit area?

 

[Steelslady]

Oh, but Pommy, don't forget the sketch artist!

I hope they're using the same sketch artist at trial that they used at this hearing, b/c that artist did a masterful job of doing no favors whatsoever to his subjects.

The colored pencils definitely add 15 pounds.
That's probably a conservative estimate.

JMO.

PF still doing what he does best- poor cop looks like he's missing a leg.

 

[susiQ]

Are we sure those human teeth are Patrick's, haha? Or her other children's?

Forgive me, maybe it's that Halloween vibe, but what you wrote gave me the creeps- truthful no doubt, but creepy, under the circumstances.

It still amazes me that both dumb and dumber burned Kelsey on Ma's ranch- didn't Ma complain about her septic tank not working after or something when LE came over and dug around their fire pit area?

While we're on the subject of teeth, and I only just watched the 48hrs broadcast this morning, doesn't that pic of him with his ex (blurred out) that ended up in prison give you the creeps, all those teeth and that weird smile? Eeek! I hate that pic

 

[susiQ]

PF still doing what he does best- poor cop looks like he's missing a leg.

That sketch is creepy too!

 

[susiQ]

Oh, but Pommy, don't forget the sketch artist!

I hope they're using the same sketch artist at trial that they used at this hearing, b/c that artist did a masterful job of doing no favors whatsoever to his/her subjects.

The colored pencils definitely add 15 pounds.
That's probably a conservative estimate.

JMO.

Love your avatar!