CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #56 *ARREST*

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  • #661
  • #662
too bad...I would have loved to actually see KK testify. And would love to hear the cross from the defense say most of the things we have said here...
You helped burn a body and were so terrified and then whuut? You took a nap?
You drove how many miles how many times?
You drove all the way, went to Starbucks, bought the drink, gave it to KB but did NOT put anything in it???
Why did you uh...clean up that mess?
How many trash bags full of stuff did you take out of KB's home?
You took her purse???
You took her phone and texted from it?
You watched her burn?
You touched a tooth?
If you didn't do anything wrong, why did you have a gun and why did you borrow a car?
Why didn't you say anything sooner?
 
  • #663
You have a great memory!

Page 11 of this Search Warrant mentions surveillance video of "what appears to be some kind of crate in the bed of the truck..."

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf
I was floating around looking for some reference to it and tbh delighted when I got an alert MG had found something :D
got my lazy pants on today :p

thanks GK :) those pesky surveillance camera's strike again!!:cool:
 
  • #664
Yup.

Surveillance’s from an ENT Credit Union shows #PatrickFrazee truck and a “black tote” in the bed of the truck. Commander says that tote plays a significant role in #KelseyBerreth disappearance. Hoping to find out what was inside it. @KKTV11News

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Wasn't it described as white by another officer? I never understood that. Imo
 
  • #665
Patrick Frazee spotted at waste management facility, police return to his property

posted Dec. 18th two days BEFORE KK's sworn statement:

"Investigators were on the property of Kelsey Berreth's fiancé Patrick Frazee, for the second time Tuesday.

It comes after eyewitnesses exclusively told KRDO they saw Frazee at a waste management facility, dropping off a load on Monday.

Employees at the company in Teller County also tell us they saw Frazee at the facility dropping off trash from a long trailer with two other men. Witnesses say Frazee remained in a white pickup truck as the two other men, who drove in two separate cars, unloaded the trailer.

The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation."

I wonder who owned the white truck, who were the guys helping him, what do they know, if anything, and what did LE find in that trash? Hmmmm.....
 
  • #666
Wasn't it described as white by another officer? I never understood that. Imo

Yeah, someone who viewed surveillance footage described a white object, and later described it as a “crate.”

Don’t know what that’s about.
 

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  • #667
Yeah, someone who viewed surveillance footage described a white object, and later described it as a “crate.”

Don’t know what that’s about.
I thought we decided that "crate" was the black tote.....
 
  • #668
I thought we decided that "crate" was the black tote.....
Was it ever determined what it was that PF purchased at Walmart?
 
  • #669
I thought we decided that "crate" was the black tote.....

Yes, and courtroom testimony points to that as being the case.

The description of it being “white,” is odd though. That seems to be the only time that description appears.
 
  • #670
Wasn't it described as white by another officer? I never understood that. Imo
page 11 of the search warrant GK just posted .
she describes the white box object and also implies that on subsequent trip some sort of crate was now in the bed of the ute.

12.36 Toyota (PF) with a white box object in the bed of truck heads northbound.
12.37 chevy (KB)heads northbound.

they must have been in sight of each other heading toward kelseys condo after her trip to safeway.

12.44 toyota (PF) with white object in bed of truck heads southbound.

he loads up the crate from somewhere. not sure if white object still there though.

1.25 Toyota (PF) heads northbound with some kind of crate

the black tote/crate an afterthought??

brings me to 7 minutes.
COULD (possibilities) PF bludgeon KB between 12.37 and 12.44???

took him 41 minutes to return with the tote.
was this the walmart trip with the baby on surveillance?

(surveillance from Williams bros furniture store)

I am thinking it is realistically not possible. that's 7 minutes camera back to camera. driving.

moo
 
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COULD (possibilities) PF bludgeon KB between 12.37 and 12.44???

took him 41 minutes to return with the tote.
was this the walmart trip with the baby on surveillance?

(surveillance from Williams bros furniture store)
SABBMFF
from TippyLynn's timeline:

  • Between 12:54 p.m. - 1:17 p.m. PF was seen on Walmart & Williams Furniture Store surveillance, and on Arlo camera by KB’s neighbor caught KB, baby K and PF at KB’s door at 1:34 p.m.
  • Adams: another surveillance video showing PF at KB’s residence at 3:36 p.m.
 
  • #672
white or black???

dispatcher Allmond reviewed and wrote the report about the surveillance from William bros.

because she describes the items in the back of the truck exactly the same for the trip 1 and trip 2 she clearly defines trip 3 is different with "some kind of tote".

moo
 
  • #673
SABBMFF
from TippyLynn's timeline:

  • Between 12:54 p.m. - 1:17 p.m. PF was seen on Walmart & Williams Furniture Store surveillance, and on Arlo camera by KB’s neighbor caught KB, baby K and PF at KB’s door at 1:34 p.m.
  • Adams: another surveillance video showing PF at KB’s residence at 3:36 p.m.
so he picked up the new 'tote' at Walmart.
according to the timelines on cctv.
thanks susiQ

moo
 
  • #674
god its so strange.
why didn't he come equipped with everything he needed?
7 minutes back to back cctv at Williams furniture.
he had to get to kelseys. greet them , make excuses to leave and take the baby.
straddle her up in the car seat and drive back to Walmart. for 41 minutes.

the cctv we have is him in the baby section. who wants to bet there's cctv of him at the cash register with a shiny new (assumed black )tote :cool:

moo
 
  • #675
so he picked up the new 'tote' at Walmart.
according to the timelines on cctv.
thanks susiQ

moo
I can't be absolutely sure of that but it's a possibility since it wasn't seen earlier. I do hope LE know what he purchased at Walmart and that there is video of him checking out and possibly loading the black tote into the truck bed. I'd also like to know where & when he bought the scented candles. So many blanks I hope will be filled in during the trial. I will be sorely disappointed if there are lengthy delays :(
 
  • #676
I can't be absolutely sure of that but it's a possibility since it wasn't seen earlier. I do hope LE know what he purchased at Walmart and that there is video of him checking out and possibly loading the black tote into the truck bed. I'd also like to know where & when he bought the scented candles. So many blanks I hope will be filled in during the trial. I will be sorely disappointed if there are lengthy delays :(

I have no doubt that they know exactly what he purchased at Walmart. It doesn’t matter if he paid with cash or card.

As for the candles, they may or may not exist. It may have simply been a ruse that had no candles to begin with. He could have attacked her before she knew what was going on.
 
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Patrick Frazee spotted at waste management facility, police return to his property

posted Dec. 18th two days BEFORE KK's sworn statement:

"Investigators were on the property of Kelsey Berreth's fiancé Patrick Frazee, for the second time Tuesday.

It comes after eyewitnesses exclusively told KRDO they saw Frazee at a waste management facility, dropping off a load on Monday.

Employees at the company in Teller County also tell us they saw Frazee at the facility dropping off trash from a long trailer with two other men. Witnesses say Frazee remained in a white pickup truck as the two other men, who drove in two separate cars, unloaded the trailer.

The trash was later collected by police and it's been reported a few of the items were taken away by police for further investigation."

I wonder who owned the white truck, who were the guys helping him, what do they know, if anything, and what did LE find in that trash? Hmmmm.....
I wonder if one of them is PF's "best friend and daddy figure".
 
  • #678
I have no doubt that they know exactly what he purchase at Walmart. It doesn’t matter if he paid with cash or card.

As for the candles, they may or may not exist. It may have simply been a ruse that had no candles to begin with. He could have attacked her before she knew what was going on.
I wonder about the candles myself. I doubt he had any. Kelsey was no doubt still exhausted from the night before- didn't she help him at another ranch and also get him something for his stomach because it was bothering him that night, too? (I'll just bet his stomach issue was real- probably knew what he was going to do to her the next day and wanted it to be over.)

She probably was too tired to question his game playing. Also, her Mom even mentioned that Kelsey didn't look like her usual self on the grocery store video- that she usually took care of her appearance but not that day, yet she said when she talked to her that morning, that she seemed fine and in a good mood. No indication that her and PF broke up, even asked her for a recipe.
 
  • #679
I wonder about the candles myself. I doubt he had any. Kelsey was no doubt still exhausted from the night before- didn't she help him at another ranch and also get him something for his stomach because it was bothering him that night, too? (I'll just bet his stomach issue was real- probably knew what he was going to do to her the next day and wanted it to be over.)

She probably was too tired to question his game playing. Also, her Mom even mentioned that Kelsey didn't look like her usual self on the grocery store video- that she usually took care of her appearance but not that day, yet she said when she talked to her that morning, that she seemed fine and in a good mood. No indication that her and PF broke up, even asked her for a recipe.

Yup, no indication they broke up, because that simply never happened.

She was preparing to spend Thanksgiving with him, and was going to make a casserole. That’s what’s so disturbing about those last text messages; you can almost sense her love for him, and minutes later she was dead.
 
  • #680
Yup, no indication they broke up, because that simply never happened.

She was preparing to spend Thanksgiving with him, and was going to make a casserole. That’s what’s so disturbing about those last text messages; you can almost sense her love for him, and minutes later she was dead.
My heart just hurts so bad for her parents and her brother. Her daughter as well, but right now, the three of them- her parents, who raised her, her brother, who shared a childhood with her, have to live with the fact that this monster and his side kick were cold hearted and evil enough to burn her body. They have to live with the fact that he brutally killed her with a baseball bat. On freaking Thanksgiving! A holiday!

So sick! How does a mother, who carries that child and raises them into adulthood, watches her daughter become a mother herself, handle such a thing? Her father must be beyond devastation as well. Her brother seemed close to his sister and had a good relationship with her.

These monsters hurt not only poor Kelsey, but left many victims behind grieving. They can't even have the benefit of a final resting place for her, unless they want to go to the Franch or dump. No place to put flowers on her birthday, holidays.

I despise them both.
 
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