GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #63

[Gardener1850]

Can someone else verify what I think I heard. At 1 hour and 7 minutes she said she had only been working there FOUR months. Am I misunderstanding or can someone else verify?

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She didn't directly work for Anadarko. She worked for another company and Anadarko contracted employees from that company to do the health and safety job she had. Hopefully someone can help me find this info but my understanding from other interviews was that she had worked at Anadarko offices through two different contract employers in the past. This current contract was for 4 months but prior to that she had a different contract/different job position that still meant she worked with Anadarko. I'm short on time today, but will try to find this info later tonight if no one else finds it.

 

[The Farm]

All we have to do is search the DOC sites for the other 49 states, and he’ll show up eventually, right?

I don't know, sometimes it is like they disappeared off the face of the earth. There is one case that haunts me to this day I last I knew he was shipped out to a prison in AZ but when I put his name in,,,,,nothing. When I put his name into any search engine,,,,nothing, only the crime he commited and the end results but nothing says where he is.
They would not put him in a prison in his state because of fear for his life so off he went into the ozone. So I have no idea how it really works.

 

[cybervampira]

I agree she wasn't responsible for his actions. But I don't buy her story that she was encouraging him to make his marriage work. I don't buy that she didn't know SW was pregnant. I don't buy that she was up in the loft of his house yet didn't enter the bedrooms. I could go on, but I am not going to fall for this shrinking daisy business, she was pushing harder than he was for him to get a divorce, IMO.

I agree she‘s not a likeable person and her main focus is on covering her . But she‘s getting more hate than she deserves IMO. When everything she says or does or how she talks has to fit that narrative of a slutty homewrecker who pushed CW into despair, I‘m appalled by that. Just like I was appalled by comments in earlier threads making SW look like a bossy control freak who pushed poor CW. There‘s a lot of grey between black and white. It was CW who created this mess. Not SW or NK.

 

[Layla123]

“If you're encouraging someone to work on their marriage, would you advise them to pawn their wife's wedding ring?”

At the time that NK suggested that CW pawn the ring, she thought SW was out of the picture. CW told her SW no longer wanted the marriage, she up and left, took the kids with her, and left her ring behind. NK thought SW no longer wanted the ring or the marriage, and CW was having financial problems and could use the money.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Why would he be moved to Federal Custody? Is he that big of a threat? Why did they not put him in ADX Florence?

I just looked up ADX Florence and saw a list of the men imprisoned there. What a list! The Who's who of terrorism!

 

[Madison418]

??? What are you seeing???

yeah?? I can't access these links

 

[PommyMommy]

I think CW “cooled” on the talk of the apartment search when it became evident that a first & last’s month’s rent and a security deposit were going to need more funds than he had immediate access to, and that he would have to get past SW to get that much money.

I think that one of the next options became to sell the house, but then that would mean filing for divorce. Then he could sell the house and get the funds to start his new life.

But that was going to require him to plan to confront SW and demand a divorce, then hire lawyers, get a settlement- and that was going to take years, as SW would NOT go for an amicable divorce.

So SW was the obstruction.
In his sociopathic delusion of a dastardly “simple” solution, it would all be so clean and he would be the sympathetic figure.

NK advised CW to set up a separate bank account to save for his apartment. They came up with a rental budget of $1,100 - $1,400 a month. All while encouraging him to save his marriage apparently. MOO

 

[Denvergirl]

I was following this closely, but haven't been on in a while, so forgive me if this has already been shared. But have you guys seen that some of the police body cam videos are released on Youtube? This one is so fascinating, it's Chris Watts watching his neighbors surveillance video! And then when Chris leaves the neighbor talks about his suspicions.....

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[x_files]

Second clearance of the house. This was filmed at night and the house is in darkness. All officers enter the home with their guns drawn.

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wow, gotta love bodycams.

 

[Chloe_ee]

What's up with the gift cards? I missed that.

1. What woman would ever go out twice with a guy that paid for the meals with a gift card? IMHO, NK has no self esteem whatsoever for a girl so seemingly obnoxious and full of herself.

2. What woman would believe a man in the late stages of divorce had to hid having a meal by using gift cards??

3. What woman would allow a man to use gift cards and not inquire about WHAT you don't have your own separate account, that you can provide our meals with...in late stages of divorce. Or his own separate account in general.

Not to be a ghoul but I would like to see their bank statements all of 2018...As they had been in financial ruin before with the BK, I can imagine they would be extremely fastidious regarding every penny they spent. CW cannot have liked having his spending being watched and scrutinized like a child. I think he had a lot of rage there at probably having to ask if he can spend money. Enter Gift Cards.. Just speculating, and no its not a reason to murder someone because you went bankrupt and the one doing the bills wants to keep a lid on the spending.

I think CW wanted SW and the kids gone for not just NK but to be free of them altogether, his money would be his now, and he wasn't providing for SW or 'those kids' for one more day.

 

[Layla123]

It counts if she is deemed reliable (ie: truthful). IMO, she's not. If she sincerely wanted to see CW fix his marriage, she would have stopped seeing him. She did the exact opposite. She would have known from looking at Shanann's Facebook that they were expecting another baby. MOO

You’ve got to keep in mind that CW lied to NK about everything throughout their relationship. There’s no evidence to prove that NK knew about the baby. I don’t think she did. I don’t see any reason for her to lie about it. Don’t you think there’d be texts about it if she knew?

 

[NuttMegg]

“If you're encouraging someone to work on their marriage, would you advise them to pawn their wife's wedding ring?”

At the time that NK suggested that CW pawn the ring, she thought SW was out of the picture. CW told her SW no longer wanted the marriage, she up and left, took the kids with her, and left her ring behind. NK thought SW no longer wanted the ring or the marriage, and CW was having financial problems and could use the money.

Refresh my memory, did she tell him to pawn SW's ring on Tuesday? Anyway, after she heard SW left without purse, medicines, telephone and car? (I really don't remember when that text was, ie Monday, Tuesday, or even Wed.)

 

[MsBetsy]

Yes it's super boring and I want to choke her. Also could her hair be any tighter in that pony tail? I wanna pull it.

Is that interview posted somewhere? I haven't seen a second one, or the phone interview. It was summarized in the Document but I haven't seen a full transcript. Also, NK made several references to the text messages in the audio interview. When she explained what they talked about she would say, "you'll see that in the text messages." Have we seen the messages? I know LE would have verified all of it but I was hoping we could read it ourselves. There seem to be alot of discrepancies.

 

[book-thinker]

My husband had to garnish wages as an employer for men who did not pay their child support. They would complain about the 25-30% they had to pay,

My husband told them they were lucky. He told them 100% of his pay went for his family. ( he was disgusted by their attitude)

Your husband sounds like a smart man. Imagine, the garnish workers face after that statement.

 

[x_files]

On th

Re the video they were watching, does anyone know why the camera was recording the Watts house/driveway?

I think the neighbors started to suspect CW's was acting weird over six weeks ago, they heard fighting and then SW's left. They sensed something was up.

 

[Denvergirl]

First home visit/interview. NUA is there I believe that's her.

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[Mamamiamaria]

NK advised CW to set up a separate bank account to save for his apartment. They came up with a rental budget of $1,100 - $1,400 a month. All while encouraging him to save his marriage apparently. MOO

How aware was NK of the financial difficulties he had ? Was she fully aware and supportive or would she have seen him in a different light if she knew he was broke and likely to be even worse off if he divorced ?

If you googled this case without reading anything, the pictures show a large family home, nice Lexus, work truck. Outwardly successful, reasonably well off.

He paid for their meals out together, did he pay for the trips they took too ? I have a feeling she did not now the true extent of his financial problems.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I am listening to the second interview with MK. I am floored with this woman, if I can call her that.

I was gobsmacked at so many things that she said and then when she said to her best friend, after her father I just died died saying "Being mad at me won't bring your dad back"

WTF!!!!

I have zero sympathy for her. She's so nonchalant about everything. She only cares about herself and that is VERY clear. I am literally shocked at her personality and behavior. She's super classy. Not. I could say a lot more but I don't want to get in trouble.

 

[Layla123]

You know anything is possible at this point.

LE did a GPS search on NK’s phone. They know everywhere she was. They said she was not a suspect.

 

[ZsaZsa]

You’ve got to keep in mind that CW lied to NK about everything throughout their relationship. There’s no evidence to prove that NK knew about the baby. I don’t think she did. I don’t see any reason for her to lie about it. Don’t you think there’d be texts about it if she knew?

She looked up SW's Facebook page and there's no missing all the pregnancy news there.