Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #3

[margarita25]

You're right...

He was planning on returning to the home & cleansing it, probably writing a fake letter from her saying she was leaving & taking the kids..

He wouldnt be able to sell the house because her name would still be on the loan/ title. He would still have to be making those $3000 monthly mortgage payments.

Was there Life Insurance?

 

[molly1255]

It is hard to know without more information. But, the thing with psychopaths is they still do not admit wrongdoing when faced with proof. Everything is always someone else's fault. Everything.

Unfortunately, I've had personal experience in this department, and I agree 100%.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

That would never happen unless part of an actual deal.

Right and it’s something I think his attorney his advising him on.

In Colorado, prosecutors must be able to establish at least one of 17 aggravating factors.

This case meets at least three, he said. Watts is accused of killing more than one person. His victims are two young children. And one of the victims was pregnant.

"There may be other mitigating circumstances, however, that also apply," Decker said. "Cooperating with police is one of those mitigating factors. If Watts led police to his wife and children's bodies, it could potentially save his life.

"I wouldn't go as far as to say it's being offered up or negotiated, but certainly law enforcement will be advising him that his participation would at least be some form of mitigation under the circumstances."

Father accused of killing family could face death penalty

 

[Jinkasaurus]

April 2018 Instagram post -

Happy Husband Appreciation Day! I couldn’t imagine a better man for us. You spoil us with love an attention! You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house. You Work so hard everyday to provide for us. I love you so much and so grateful you hung around when I tried pushing you away in the beginning!​

Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “Happy Husband Appreciation Day! I couldn’t imagine a better man for us. You spoil us with love an attention! You put up with 3 impatient,…”

 

[margarita25]

I’m very curious about his electronic footprint, what his google searches were.

 

[molly1255]

Was there Life Insurance?

There may have been group life. Larger employers sometimes make spouse and dependent life insurance available to their employees.

 

[margarita25]

I wonder if Shanann ever felt in danger previously, or ever anticipated as time progressed that he could be capable of violence.

I wonder what his childhood was like.

 

[pocketaccent]

I’m very curious about his electronic footprint, what his google searches were.

He probably searched -How to murder your family and not get caught.
I'm not joking. He is a dumb .

 

[Tippy Lynn]

So you think when he unloaded his truck with the bodies and climbed a ladder or whatever and opened it and put it in, alarms were going off?

And it was all on video? I mean they would've found the bodies on Monday if that was the case, I think?

Im not sure, but I’m guessing they would need search warrants to make it legal.

 

[Herat]

"reportedly confessed "

the words leave out to whom

it was the neighbors he confessed to imo

I thought he confessed to his father after he arrived by plane

 

[molly1255]

Thanks for the link!
In the article, he lists having written
I am the author of Sociopaths & Psychopaths: A Crisis of Conscience and Empathy (2017), and The One Rule For Boys: How Empathy And Emotional Understanding Will Improve Just About Everything For Your Son (2014).

Max Wachtel, Ph.D. :: JurisPro Expert Witness Directory :: Colorado

But I can't recall him mentioning psychopath or sociopath at all in that interview -- I assume because he will be an expert witness for the defense...

I saw the disorder in CW all over the place. Stone-faced, unemotional, etc., not even faking that he was distressed & loved his family more than anything. The rocking back & forth was also interesting, along with the "closed" body language. Smooooooth dude.
We've seen so many of those in these threads, we can recognize it in most cases.
And this man is one of them. IMHO.

What I thought was absolutely bizarre, was that one of the reporters asked him about his t shirt and he spent a few lighthearted moments talking about his t shirt and favorite sports team.

 

[Stunned]

I wonder if Shanann ever felt in danger previously, or ever anticipated as time progressed that he could be capable of violence.

I wonder what his childhood was like.

I read this quote on a church sign the other day. ‘Your past explains you it does not excuse you.’ Thought of it when I read your post.

 

[enelram]

I wonder if Shanann ever felt in danger previously, or ever anticipated at a ater into their marriage that he could be capable of violence.

I wonder what his childhood was like.

Me too.

On her FB where she had the neck brace around her neck,
someone asked "What happened"?

She just said "Anterior cervical discectomy fusion with
arthroplasty implant". That was Sept. 2017.

common cause of this problem in young people- Trauma.

 

[margarita25]

Has a schematic of the home’s interior/property been posted here yet? Tia.

(Sorry never mind, I need to catch up anyway. Sorry was being lazy.)

 

[FlossyMay]

Guys I can't find the video of his interview. Can someone link it for me...purdy please? TIA

 

[marable]

Agree he felt he was being left behind. Honestly in his case he looked better on the chunkier side. He kind of looks skeletal in his face now and not as healthy looking as before. She looks great. She obviously had just had a baby though so she would have been shedding those lbs without using thrive. This is where I think promoting these products are actually pretty dangerous especially to young people who may be seeing them.

Fitness today is kind of big business and out of control. It amazes me how people who don't actively fast walk, jog, belong to a gym, eat gluten free, all organic etc etc etc are now the ones living on the edges of what is acceptable behavior. LOL Really is crazy. I agree one should eat healthy and be as fit as necessary but I see way too many examples of this being taken to the extremes these days. I even have family members that are this way. I laugh at them and get eye rolls in return because I just don't get it. Yeah, I get it. I also believe in moderation too and NOT keeping up with the Jones' in every single aspect of your life. Be an individual. I think this is the other negative of SM...everyone wants to show a life that is "acceptable" these days instead of just living their life as they wish to and not concerning themselves with what other people think.

It's no wonder that depression and suicide is so prevelent among younger people today. With this SM obsession and constant pressure to live a certain standard which is really unrealistic and unsustainable, it is no wonder many are falling into depression. Today one must be in "control" of everything, their weight through diet, their minds through meditation and or yoga, exercise through some extremely rigorous programs that in fact make basic training come of as a vacation, to being the BEST educated, living in the best home, best schools, take the best trips. What an impossible merry go round. Thank goodness I am not on it.

What was in these patches that the two of them had on themselves? I saw one picture on her instagram pictures where he had two of those patches on his back.......Could these patches have contained something that built up in him that caused him to murder his family???

 

[Seattle1]

I'm leaning toward him drowning the girls and strangling SW .

Perhaps it was the opposite. He first suffocated the girls. If there'd been talk of separation between the couple, I could see CW setting the trap -- telling SW that the girls were spending the night with AB (duped couple), and drawing a bath for her in the false pretense of romantic welcome home, and drowning her when her guard was down. Also think his plan was disturbed when SW flight from AZ was delayed... That really had to have him riled! I'm also not placing to much emphasis on the financial woes because that was nothing new to them. I understand we need a reason for this horrific tragedy, but evil doesn't. How else could you place your beautiful, pure babies in dirty, smelly oil to rot.

 

[TheDuchess]

I don't know if I'm in the minority here, but I don't feel like he ever hurt those girls. I have the hardest time (still- I posted about this last night too) figuring out what made him "snap" enough to kill his kids. There are SM videos of his daughter vocalizing her love for him, there are photos of the girls cuddling and snuggling up on him, all smiles. I don't see any Lucas Hernandez-style pictures here. The unverified account of the friend who said the MIL and SIL tried feeding one daughter peanuts said that SW insisted that CW stay close by to keep them safe. I don't think he hurt them at all, until that night. Are there other cases like this? Why does this happen? The only other one that comes to mind is Justin Ross Harris, whose ex-wife still swears he wouldn't have left Cooper in his hot car on purpose, because he loved him so dearly. I'm just struggling with this one yall.

In my opinion, a man like this, who I believe has been "faking it" all along ala Scott Peterson, can play the part really well. Keeping the girls safe? Of course! But not because he cares about them as human beings, but because they are an integral part of his normie story. I'm sorry. This man did not snap. This man has no heart. He didn't confess out of guilt. Guilt would have made him NOT give interviews and trying to make it seem like his wife left him. He confessed because he knew they had him dead to rights and he was hoping for a better deal by showing he was "helpful." Scum. He never loved any of them. They were just possessions. If he did, he wouldn't have killed them. Period. IMO.

 

[Stunned]

What was in these patches that the two of them had on themselves? I saw one picture on her instagram pictures where he had two of those patches on his back.......Could these patches have contained something that built up in him that caused him to murder his family???

Thrive patches. Probably will come into play with defense.

 

[TheDuchess]

Perhaps it was the opposite. He first suffocated the girls. If there'd been talk of separation between the couple, I could see CW setting the trap -- telling SW that the girls were spending the night with AB (duped couple), and drawing a bath for her in the false pretense of romantic welcome home, and drowning her when her guard was down. Also think his plan was disturbed when SW flight from AZ was delayed... That really had to have him riled! I'm also not placing to much emphasis on the financial woes because that was nothing new to them. I understand we need a reason for this horrific tragedy, but evil doesn't. How else could you place your beautiful, clean babies in dirty, smelly oil to rot.

He could have killed her and the girls woke up to find mommy dead. They were old enough to talk and communicate what they saw so he killed them as well.