Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

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  • #761
Why do you suppose there hasn't been any charges brought against him and George for that? Do you think he gave info to LE and switched sides when he was confronted? Maybe he didn't want to go down with the ship on the SS Barry? I have thought that might be the case since he did go radio silent and he wasn't at the PH with his mother and grandmother. Maybe that is what Barry's sister was referring to when she confronted Lauren about (paraphrasing) ruining their family. Could there now be a rift between Trevor and the family?
I think it's just a hard thing to prove. Both men could plausibly have said that they were in fact looking out for Morgan, and not trying to interfere.
 
  • #762
Here's the whole schizophrenic mess I think you're referring to:

Q Eytan: And later that day at 3:51 pm what appears to be is there was a fight about money again, correct?

A Harris: What are you referring to?

Q Eytan: At 3:51 — let’s back up. At 2:43 p.m that day Suzanne received the following message from Barry. “I’m sorry if things went the way they did. I have a problem dealing with the way you accused me of hiding checks. If you think I’m as terrible of a person to hide our accounts and have ones you don’t know about you don’t know me. All I do is for you and the girls. All. When I’m dead, which won’t be long, you guys will be taken care of. Please stop being angry. If I can control my hurt heart I think I can overcome your distant unlovingness toward me. Honey, I swear it’s the hardest thing I’ve had to do. I love you I always will.”

A Harris: Just to be clear, you said that’s from Mr. Morphew to Suzanne, correct?

Q Eytan: Suzanne received the following message from Barry

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: And what he’s commenting about is — it appears to be an argument about money, correct?

A Harris: It appears to be, yes.

Q Eytan: It also appears to be that they had an argument where Suzanne was once again accusing Mr. Morphew of having an affair, correct?

A Harris: Sorry I was focused on the money part.

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?

A Harris: Can I look on the messages?

Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”

A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.

MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: 5/8. I apologize, 5/8.

THE COURT: So the pizza thing is May 8th not May 6th?

Q Eytan: May 8th.

A Harris: Now I’m getting confused. So May 8th at what time in the evening?

Q Eytan: 7:18

A Harris: I’m sorry, I’m not finding it.

Q Eytan: Okay let me back up. On May 6th, there was this text argument we just talked about, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: On May 7th, there’s a text between the two of them saying how magical the last two days were, correct? Between Mr. Morphew and Mr. Libler. Do you recall that text?

THE COURT: I’m sorry I’m lost.

MS. EYTAN: I’m backing up dates. So I’m backing up from Moonlight Pizza. Sorry.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: Okay so backing up. there was a text argument that we talked about, the I’m done and the apologies and statements from Mr. Morphew on May 6th,

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: May 7th.

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: Mr. Libler and Ms. Morphew are texting and one of the things they text to each other about is how magical the last two days have been.

A Harris: And what day was that?

Q Eytan: May 7th, 7:25 am

MS. EYTAN: Can I please approach the witness and help.

THE COURT: That’s fine.

A Harris: Yes.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.

Went with a slightly larger chunk than usual so Hurricane Iris's confuse and change the subject strategy is a little more obvious. I imagine it's really hard to keep track of her "questioning" in person.

Who's on first?

She is dizzying.

JMO
 
  • #763
I don’t know, but it was a very small town and high school they both attended. LE went to Indiana and interviewed many people. If JL had suddenly gone missing around the same time, news of that would probably make it’s way back “home” ( even though he lived in Michigan). News travels fast on Facebook.

Someone like SO might remember the incidents described in the screenshot below.

After that, LE would definitely have to see if there was a connection.
Perhaps they would find that JL’s business trips and vacations placed him in the same cities at the same time as SM.

Might sound far fetched lol. I’m just guessing at scenarios.
JMO
Not farfetched at all. LE would have found out, you're right. And because Barry was stalking Suzanne, he would have murdered them both if he'd caught them together. Weren't they both in Indiana at the same time and met there? Didn't Barry go to Indiana and climb up the side of a house? Was it SO's? What type person does that? Peeping Tom.

JMO
 
  • #764
Here's the whole schizophrenic mess I think you're referring to:

Q Eytan: And later that day at 3:51 pm what appears to be is there was a fight about money again, correct?

A Harris: What are you referring to?

Q Eytan: At 3:51 — let’s back up. At 2:43 p.m that day Suzanne received the following message from Barry. “I’m sorry if things went the way they did. I have a problem dealing with the way you accused me of hiding checks. If you think I’m as terrible of a person to hide our accounts and have ones you don’t know about you don’t know me. All I do is for you and the girls. All. When I’m dead, which won’t be long, you guys will be taken care of. Please stop being angry. If I can control my hurt heart I think I can overcome your distant unlovingness toward me. Honey, I swear it’s the hardest thing I’ve had to do. I love you I always will.”

A Harris: Just to be clear, you said that’s from Mr. Morphew to Suzanne, correct?

Q Eytan: Suzanne received the following message from Barry

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: And what he’s commenting about is — it appears to be an argument about money, correct?

A Harris: It appears to be, yes.

Q Eytan: It also appears to be that they had an argument where Suzanne was once again accusing Mr. Morphew of having an affair, correct?

A Harris: Sorry I was focused on the money part.

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?

A Harris: Can I look on the messages?

Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”

A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.

MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: 5/8. I apologize, 5/8.

THE COURT: So the pizza thing is May 8th not May 6th?

Q Eytan: May 8th.

A Harris: Now I’m getting confused. So May 8th at what time in the evening?

Q Eytan: 7:18

A Harris: I’m sorry, I’m not finding it.

Q Eytan: Okay let me back up. On May 6th, there was this text argument we just talked about, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: On May 7th, there’s a text between the two of them saying how magical the last two days were, correct? Between Mr. Morphew and Mr. Libler. Do you recall that text?

THE COURT: I’m sorry I’m lost.

MS. EYTAN: I’m backing up dates. So I’m backing up from Moonlight Pizza. Sorry.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: Okay so backing up. there was a text argument that we talked about, the I’m done and the apologies and statements from Mr. Morphew on May 6th,

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: May 7th.

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: Mr. Libler and Ms. Morphew are texting and one of the things they text to each other about is how magical the last two days have been.

A Harris: And what day was that?

Q Eytan: May 7th, 7:25 am

MS. EYTAN: Can I please approach the witness and help.

THE COURT: That’s fine.

A Harris: Yes.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.

Went with a slightly larger chunk than usual so Hurricane Iris's confuse and change the subject strategy is a little more obvious. I imagine it's really hard to keep track of her "questioning" in person.
Yes, you're AMAZING!

Q Eytan: "Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?"

Isn't that hilarious! Er, um, what? Okay, never mind. We'll move onto the SECRET bank account!
I wonder if she refers to her own personal bank accounts as secret, lmao! Kills me every time I read that, haha.

So yeah, toward the end is where the pizza night gets screwy.
Thanks so much!

ETA: @Cindizzi
Here's the exchange at the PH. :)
 
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  • #765
Here's the whole schizophrenic mess I think you're referring to:

Q Eytan: And later that day at 3:51 pm what appears to be is there was a fight about money again, correct?

A Harris: What are you referring to?

Q Eytan: At 3:51 — let’s back up. At 2:43 p.m that day Suzanne received the following message from Barry. “I’m sorry if things went the way they did. I have a problem dealing with the way you accused me of hiding checks. If you think I’m as terrible of a person to hide our accounts and have ones you don’t know about you don’t know me. All I do is for you and the girls. All. When I’m dead, which won’t be long, you guys will be taken care of. Please stop being angry. If I can control my hurt heart I think I can overcome your distant unlovingness toward me. Honey, I swear it’s the hardest thing I’ve had to do. I love you I always will.”

A Harris: Just to be clear, you said that’s from Mr. Morphew to Suzanne, correct?

Q Eytan: Suzanne received the following message from Barry

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: And what he’s commenting about is — it appears to be an argument about money, correct?

A Harris: It appears to be, yes.

Q Eytan: It also appears to be that they had an argument where Suzanne was once again accusing Mr. Morphew of having an affair, correct?

A Harris: Sorry I was focused on the money part.

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?

A Harris: Can I look on the messages?

Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”

A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.

MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: 5/8. I apologize, 5/8.

THE COURT: So the pizza thing is May 8th not May 6th?

Q Eytan: May 8th.

A Harris: Now I’m getting confused. So May 8th at what time in the evening?

Q Eytan: 7:18

A Harris: I’m sorry, I’m not finding it.

Q Eytan: Okay let me back up. On May 6th, there was this text argument we just talked about, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: On May 7th, there’s a text between the two of them saying how magical the last two days were, correct? Between Mr. Morphew and Mr. Libler. Do you recall that text?

THE COURT: I’m sorry I’m lost.

MS. EYTAN: I’m backing up dates. So I’m backing up from Moonlight Pizza. Sorry.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: Okay so backing up. there was a text argument that we talked about, the I’m done and the apologies and statements from Mr. Morphew on May 6th,

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: May 7th.

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: Mr. Libler and Ms. Morphew are texting and one of the things they text to each other about is how magical the last two days have been.

A Harris: And what day was that?

Q Eytan: May 7th, 7:25 am

MS. EYTAN: Can I please approach the witness and help.

THE COURT: That’s fine.

A Harris: Yes.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.

Went with a slightly larger chunk than usual so Hurricane Iris's confuse and change the subject strategy is a little more obvious. I imagine it's really hard to keep track of her "questioning" in person.

Honey, WHAT was the hardest thing Barry ever had to do?

Love her during her unlovingness?

Is that Barry code for going without sex? I mean, from his wife.

Cave called. Man, missing.

JMO
 
  • #766
Yes, you're AMAZING!

Q Eytan: "Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?"

Isn't that hilarious! Er, um, what? Okay, never mind. We'll move onto the SECRET bank account!
I wonder if she refers to her own personal bank accounts as secret, lmao! Kills me every time I read that, haha.

So yeah, toward the end is where the pizza night gets screwy.
Thanks so much!

I won't be surprised if Suzanne's SECRET bank accounts were a SECRET from Suzanne. Particularly the ones in her name.

He thought he could govern her, vote for her, manage her money for her.

I imagine he was surprised when the Indiana house was closing that he couldn't sign for Suzanne because I'm imagining he always had.

JMO
 
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  • #767
I think it's just a hard thing to prove. Both men could plausibly have said that they were in fact looking out for Morgan, and not trying to interfere.
I agree. And they could say that telling MG “ I could give you your pay, but it might look like hush money “ was just a joke.
But why make a joke on May 12 that implies that BM would be paying off an alibi witness ?

I wonder if GD had any other conversations with MG after that.
 

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  • #768
Who's on first?

She is dizzying.

JMO

And one effect of IE's confusion, particularly if performed in front of a jury, is that Harris comes across as not knowing his stuff. Eytan is in charge of the questioning. She's leading Harris through the messages, and he's the one who (rightfully) doesn't get the timeline. Is it intentional smoke and mirrors on IE's part? Maybe. It seems like an effective strategy, but it sure is slimy.
 
  • #769
RSBM
The market trash dive still bugs me. Was he retrieving something or discarding something? It also bugs me that, if true, there was video of BM at the market and LE failed to retrieve it before it was over written.
It blows my mind that the Poncha Market video wasn't retrieved as soon as it was reported BM had been going through that trash bin and it was captured on video!

And it also blows my mind that, after LE had specifically asked that video be retained within a very specific time frame, the owner of that market - knowing that their own video may well be relevant - did not retain it, but allowed it to be overwritten!
 
  • #770
It blows my mind that the Poncha Market video wasn't retrieved as soon as it was reported BM had been going through that trash bin and it was captured on video!

And it also blows my mind that, after LE had specifically asked that video be retained within a very specific time frame, the owner of that market - knowing that their own video may well be relevant - did not retain it, but allowed it to be overwritten!
I know. That's a tip that should have been given priority, as it was very specific and time sensitive.
 
  • #771
Need confirmation from some sleuthers. This is where Barry's truck is after 02:30 on the 11th through the 15th. I'm guessing that this is where CCSO processes seized vehicles. I can't find any readable signing on the exterior of the building. There are a couple of signs at the gate, but I can't make them out on street view lending to my theory that this is CCSO property. If we can all agree that this is CCSO property, I can stop entering the Parking Light activity into Google Earth.

Google Maps


One sign references construction on US 50.

The other is a commercial billboard for Colorado real estate.

Peculiar building. Peculiar vehicle in the shed. Peculiar vehicles all around.

JMO
 
  • #772
I know. That's a tip that should have been given priority, as it was very specific and time sensitive.
They didn’t even send out the Reverse 911 to ask for footage until May 17.


May 17 Search Press Release - Chaffee County Sheriff
As the investigation into the Suzanne Morphew’s missing person case moves forward, Chaffee County residents are being asked to preserve any and all video footage from devices such as Ring doorbells, security cameras, game cameras, etc., from May 8th thru May 12th.

Citizens are only being asked to preserve the video at this time. Please do not send these videos to the sheriff’s office or call the sheriff’s office. As search areas are identified, investigators will contact residents in those locations to collect any camera footage within that May 8-12 window.

PLEASE DO NOT CALL CHAFFEE COUNTY DISPATCH WITH QUESTIONS.

“One of the most helpful ways the community can aid in the search of Suzanne Morphew is by preserving these recordings,” said Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze. “We are aware that some systems override video after several days, and we want to ensure video remains available if needed.”
 
  • #773
I agree that Barry finding out that his wife is having sex with another man would make him murderously enraged, blindingly to-hell-with-the-consequences enraged, more than anything else.

But I’m not so sure about the theory that he was plotting to kill her “local lover” in those weeks in April/ May to keep Suzanne. He had been spying on her with video and audio for a year or more and had no evidence that anyone had ever come to the house. He knew she was going on frequent trips far away and he tried to crash them to find out what’s going on. He knew she was always on her phone smiling flirting texting and selfie-ing, ie long distance “emotional affair “ (he hoped).

I still think it’s a big deal that she had cancer twice. That he must have started considering what life would be like without her and thought the cleanest best outcome would be for her to pass away. Then he would have the money, the mansion, the beautiful loyal daughters, and cute girls in Salida.

Suzanne was a buzz kill, was unhappy, was a threat to his ego, was going to split his life in half. When she beat cancer a second time and was about to have her final treatment he had to cleanly make it happen himself.

Only problem is, Barry can’t do anything cleanly, he’s a huge mess.

Moo
I agree, except for describing her trips as 'frequent'. I think they only met up 5-6 times so I'd call that infrequent.
They likely were planned when he'd planned to go hunting or wherever he went. Matter of fact, I think he was supposed to be off hunting when he unexpectedly showed up at SO house.
 
  • #774
One sign references construction on US 50.

The other is a commercial billboard for Colorado real estate.

Peculiar building. Peculiar vehicle in the shed. Peculiar vehicles all around.

JMO
There are a couple smaller white signs on the post of the gate across the drive into the property, but it isn't possible on my maps app or on Google Earth to zoom in close enough to read either of them.

Are there any Websleuthers who reside in the area who might be driving by that area anytime soon...?
 
  • #775
I wonder if, when Suzanne thought he was hunting (in greater Colorado, Utah, Montana), he was actually just across the way.

Cozying up at the Cushman's.

The incident where Suzanne and SO were afraid -- oh, I believe he stunk, but I wonder if he was closer all along than Suzanne realized.

Furthermore if Barry had side pieces, all he had to find was one other man in the same skeevy skiff. Two men alibi-ing each other. Tell my wife you're with me. *wink, wink*

JMO
Yup, at the Cushman's or SD's former home. LE put a camera on a pole outside her place. It's in the AA somewhere.

Always trust a woman's intuition. I believe Suzanne and what she knew about Barry's cheating ways. That includes everything he kept from her over the years of their marriage. I don't condone what Suzanne did, not at all, but damn, she deserved some happiness in her life and she certainly wasn't getting any from Barry. If Jeff made her happy, then good, but I don't like what he did. He's a coward.

This murder wasn't because of an affair Suzanne had. It was premeditated first degree murder. Barry wanted everything including Suzanne's inheritance and he wasn't going to part with any of it. I hope he's broke by the end of the trial and found guilty. Life plus 156 years.

JMO
 
  • #776
Honey, WHAT was the hardest thing Barry ever had to do?

Love her during her unlovingness?

Is that Barry code for going without sex? I mean, from his wife.

Cave called. Man, missing.

JMO
LOLOLOL!!! :D:D:D
 
  • #777
Here's the whole schizophrenic mess I think you're referring to:

Q Eytan: And later that day at 3:51 pm what appears to be is there was a fight about money again, correct?

A Harris: What are you referring to?

Q Eytan: At 3:51 — let’s back up. At 2:43 p.m that day Suzanne received the following message from Barry. “I’m sorry if things went the way they did. I have a problem dealing with the way you accused me of hiding checks. If you think I’m as terrible of a person to hide our accounts and have ones you don’t know about you don’t know me. All I do is for you and the girls. All. When I’m dead, which won’t be long, you guys will be taken care of. Please stop being angry. If I can control my hurt heart I think I can overcome your distant unlovingness toward me. Honey, I swear it’s the hardest thing I’ve had to do. I love you I always will.”

A Harris: Just to be clear, you said that’s from Mr. Morphew to Suzanne, correct?

Q Eytan: Suzanne received the following message from Barry

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: And what he’s commenting about is — it appears to be an argument about money, correct?

A Harris: It appears to be, yes.

Q Eytan: It also appears to be that they had an argument where Suzanne was once again accusing Mr. Morphew of having an affair, correct?

A Harris: Sorry I was focused on the money part.

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?

A Harris: Can I look on the messages?

Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”

A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.

MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: 5/8. I apologize, 5/8.

THE COURT: So the pizza thing is May 8th not May 6th?

Q Eytan: May 8th.

A Harris: Now I’m getting confused. So May 8th at what time in the evening?

Q Eytan: 7:18

A Harris: I’m sorry, I’m not finding it.

Q Eytan: Okay let me back up. On May 6th, there was this text argument we just talked about, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: On May 7th, there’s a text between the two of them saying how magical the last two days were, correct? Between Mr. Morphew and Mr. Libler. Do you recall that text?

THE COURT: I’m sorry I’m lost.

MS. EYTAN: I’m backing up dates. So I’m backing up from Moonlight Pizza. Sorry.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: Okay so backing up. there was a text argument that we talked about, the I’m done and the apologies and statements from Mr. Morphew on May 6th,

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: May 7th.

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: Mr. Libler and Ms. Morphew are texting and one of the things they text to each other about is how magical the last two days have been.

A Harris: And what day was that?

Q Eytan: May 7th, 7:25 am

MS. EYTAN: Can I please approach the witness and help.

THE COURT: That’s fine.

A Harris: Yes.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.

Went with a slightly larger chunk than usual so Hurricane Iris's confuse and change the subject strategy is a little more obvious. I imagine it's really hard to keep track of her "questioning" in person.
What? Is there such a thing as a hurricanetornado?:confused:
 
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I agree. And they could say that telling MG “ I could give you your pay, but it might look like hush money “ was just a joke.
But why make a joke on May 12 that implies that BM would be paying off an alibi witness ?

I wonder if GD had any other conversations with MG after that.
Good catch!
I read that before I don't know how many times, and I never caught the word conversations, meaning plural, great catch!
 
  • #779
BM's Nephew & GD. Charges re 'Talk' w MG?
Why do you suppose there hasn't been any charges brought against him and George for that? Do you think he gave info to LE and switched sides when he was confronted? Maybe he didn't want to go down with the ship on the SS Barry?...
@notbornyesterday sbm for focus. Why has Dist Atty not yet filed charges against either man? Imo main factor: Bigger fish to fry.
Other factors: What chg?* Bribing, Intimidating,
or Tampering w a Witness? Did MG have "knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of facts relating to any crime"*

Did any of the three participants record the convo? Provide to LE? If not, easy to imagine MG's stmts to LE and TN's & GD's stmts contradict one another.
Were threats, payment, or promises made? Subtle or explicit? Exactly who said what and when? The more recent stmts of all three to LE may vary slightly or substantially w their own earlier stmts to LE. Was $ withheld from MG for labor she had already provided? Or did they provide $ to her in excess of her legit labor? Perhaps at a later time? In sum, a clustercluck of a swearing contest. Imo, not so cut & dried as some here think.

Is MG willing to appear, take the stand, & to testify?

Does Dist Atty have sufficient evd to prove TN and/or GD committed any one of those three types of offenses?

Considering the above, I understand why charges have not been made to date and also don't predict future charges.** my2ct.Could be wrong.

________________________
* PART 7 VICTIMS AND WITNESSES PROTECTION
"18-8-701. Short title. This part 7 shall be known and may be cited as the "Colorado Victim and Witness Protection Act of 1984".
18-8-702. Definitions. ...
(2) "Witness" means any natural person:... Having knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of facts relating to any crime..."

18-8-703. Bribing a witness ...
18-8-704. Intimidating a witness ...
18-8-707. Tampering with a witness ..."

** Statute of limitations, Class 4 felonies. Dist Atty has three yrs from date the offense allegedly occurs to press charges. Iirc this convo (maybe, the one and only convo?) happened w'in first week of SM's disappearance. So possibly another yr to file?
 
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It blows my mind that the Poncha Market video wasn't retrieved as soon as it was reported BM had been going through that trash bin and it was captured on video!

And it also blows my mind that, after LE had specifically asked that video be retained within a very specific time frame, the owner of that market - knowing that their own video may well be relevant - did not retain it, but allowed it to be overwritten!

They didn’t even send out the Reverse 911 to ask for footage until May 17.


May 17 Search Press Release - Chaffee County Sheriff
As the investigation into the Suzanne Morphew’s missing person case moves forward, Chaffee County residents are being asked to preserve any and all video footage from devices such as Ring doorbells, security cameras, game cameras, etc., from May 8th thru May 12th.

Citizens are only being asked to preserve the video at this time. Please do not send these videos to the sheriff’s office or call the sheriff’s office. As search areas are identified, investigators will contact residents in those locations to collect any camera footage within that May 8-12 window.

PLEASE DO NOT CALL CHAFFEE COUNTY DISPATCH WITH QUESTIONS.

“One of the most helpful ways the community can aid in the search of Suzanne Morphew is by preserving these recordings,” said Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze. “We are aware that some systems override video after several days, and we want to ensure video remains available if needed.”
I blame CCSO for this one. It sounded like they had a pretty good handle on the case and didn’t need anybody calling anything in. They very specifically asked that you don’t call them with questions, just hold all your footage. Um okay. Does everyone here know how to preserve footage? Everybody got a spare card or whatever is necessary to upload onto another device? I think that whoever wrote that release should be kicking themself today. The husband was supposedly cooperating, and wouldn’t the sheriff’s department have an eye on him if they considered him a suspect? I would think that they would have known he was at the Poncha Market, and they would have come calling to take a look at any footage. Heck I would have thought they were filming him themselves.
 
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