Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #18

[FelicityLemon]

MOO if they are fairly certain she is dead and looking for a body, then sadly they are looking for a body. But they are not appealing for help. For instance mountain bikers, hikers, birders, all could be of tremendous help.

I feel bad, but to be blunt, if they find a body they find a body and any body they find would be investigated so it doesn't matter what she looked like or what she was wearing I understand what you're saying, though. As far as what she was wearing, they can't produce a description because (as far as we know) no one had seen her. Unless her family knew for certain that she had a uniform - most of us have what we call a uniform for ready to go, brainless dressing - it still couldn't be 100% that she was dressed that way. As for a general, but good description of herself, there are pictures of her everywhere on the internet in the news articles and in the flyers and elsewhere on the web. I know they're hoping someone remembers seeing her and when, but at this point, I think they know she's not coming home.

 

[LietKynes]

MOO if they are fairly certain she is dead and looking for a body, then sadly they are looking for a body. But they are not appealing for help. For instance mountain bikers, hikers, birders, all could be of tremendous help.

bbm
Yes, Ita.

 

[FelicityLemon]

bbm
If this did not involve BM in any way, I think we'd be seeing a very different reaction from Suzanne's side of the family.
We'd be asked to be on the lookout and what she was wearing and a photo of the bike in case someone somewhere saw her riding it Sun. morning.
And a more recent photo than one taken at least a year ago.As far as a random kidnapper, even if the family believes this may have happened and not a person known to Suzanne -- then yes-- there is a need to speak up and keep her case in the media !
There was never not a need for a plea , Imo, and that's what is baffling about this case, as no one has begged for her return or pleaded for the abductor to release her. Saying that you'll give a significant sum for her safe return with "...no questions asked..", makes no sense.
Of course there'd be questions.LE have put time and energy into finding Suzanne to the point of tearing up a concrete foundation and they're not going to "let it go", if Suzanne is returned -- without an explanation !
As far as liquidating Suzanne's assets and having her declared unable to agree to the sale ("incapacitated") I find telling.
IF she's being held my a mystery abductor, she may be in full control of her senses.
As in not incapacitated.IF the family thinks BM is involved --they still need to make a plea to him via a presser for answers.
Her family deserves to know what happened. Imo.

Barry Morphew files for guardianship of missing wife, Suzanne Morphew
"...The pending petition states that Suzanne Morphew, who hasn’t been seen since May 10, “is deemed incapacitated under Indiana Law because she cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry.”\ The wording at above link does make it sound like someone wants us to think there was reasonable inquiry.
I'd beg to differ. MOO
Barry Morphew files for guardianship of missing wife Suzanne Morphew – Crime Online
"...The family member said they were unaware of Barry Morphew’s petition for guardianship when CrimeOnline asked them to comment on the matter...."
I wonder if the family found out the same way as the rest of us-- via msm ? Imo.

Incapacitated doesn't necessarily mean literally incapable, but legally incapable in this instance. Since she's unavailable and presumably not by her own choice, she's incapable of participating legally in anything. I think this is just for practicality at the time. I have no idea what would happen if she comes home healthy in body and mind, but I think also that this situation qualifies for declaring her incapacitated. They can't determine she's deceased, but she's unable to participate because she's not here. It's confusing and I'm sure it's very distressing for her family.

 

[Boxer]

I feel bad, but to be blunt, if they find a body they find a body and any body they find would be investigated so it doesn't matter what she looked like or what she was wearing I understand what you're saying, though. As far as what she was wearing, they can't produce a description because (as far as we know) no one had seen her. Unless her family knew for certain that she had a uniform - most of us have what we call a uniform for ready to go, brainless dressing - it still couldn't be 100% that she was dressed that way. As for a general, but good description of herself, there are pictures of her everywhere on the internet in the news articles and in the flyers and elsewhere on the web. I know they're hoping someone remembers seeing her and when, but at this point, I think they know she's not coming home.

It is the strangest thing not tell the public the last time she was seen. 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th?th

Between no last seen and no search now, she is just falling into the past.

 

[Madeleine74]

MOO if they are fairly certain she is dead and looking for a body, then sadly they are looking for a body. But they are not appealing for help. For instance mountain bikers, hikers, birders, all could be of tremendous help.

The risk with non-trained searchers is they might contaminate a crime scene and/or any evidence, plus there's the liability if one or more become injured while looking in the mountains. And where would you send these helpful others to search? LE is looking for info to lead them to a possible site, they're not going willy-nilly around the state. IMO

 

[gitana1]

I think that maybe the reason no one is speaking out is because they pretty much know what happened, whether it does or does not involve BM, so there's no need to make pleas to the media or to anybody.

I hope it's not BM but chances are...
But it's hard to say with no real facts or proof. No proof he was controlling, besides an unnamed relative. No proof he was a narcissist, even though a lot of people on the interwebs are calling him that. No proof he did or did not go to Denver.

As with the land deals, as bad as the timing is, I think those things just had to be done. The selling of property and buying property were probably in the works before she went missing and there were deadlines that had to be met. Other parties involved in the deals can't just wait and wait for things to get done.

CrimeOnline said there was a closing date set for the Indiana property. <modsnip: Referenced info was removed due to sleuthing BM>

You’re right but I believe it’s highly unusual for anyone to give two you know what’s about something that has to be done (other than whats directly related to finding their loved one) when their loved one is missing.

 

[Boxer]

The risk with non-trained searchers is they might contaminate a crime scene and/or any evidence, plus there's the liability if one or more become injured while looking in the mountains. And where exactly would you send these helpful others to search? LE is looking for info to lead them to a possible site, they're not going willy nilly around the state. IMO

They may have zero.
Vanessa Gs family is moving mountains to find her and fond help.

 

[Madeleine74]

It is the strangest thing not tell the public the last time she was seen. 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th?th

Between no last seen and no search now, she is just falling into the past.

It's not strange if the goal is to make sure the case is protected so things only the perp would know are held back. The last day she was seen ould be one of those details. Let's say someone confessed to the crime and they threw out a day they took her and let's say LE knows it wasn't that day, because of other info or evidence they have gathered. It's one way to exclude a potential perp.

IMO

 

[Madeleine74]

They may have zero.
Vanessa Gs family is moving mountains to find her and fond help.

Can't compare different cases and say they should be treated exactly the same. For whatever reason, and I believe there *are* reasons, this one is different. IMO

 

[gitana1]

I feel bad, but to be blunt, if they find a body they find a body and any body they find would be investigated so it doesn't matter what she looked like or what she was wearing I understand what you're saying, though. As far as what she was wearing, they can't produce a description because (as far as we know) no one had seen her. Unless her family knew for certain that she had a uniform - most of us have what we call a uniform for ready to go, brainless dressing - it still couldn't be 100% that she was dressed that way. As for a general, but good description of herself, there are pictures of her everywhere on the internet in the news articles and in the flyers and elsewhere on the web. I know they're hoping someone remembers seeing her and when, but at this point, I think they know she's not coming home.

Yes but in a case like this, if they really believed she was riding her bike near where it was found, or at all that day, they’d put out a description and photo of the bike along with her photo, and ask if she’d been seen in the area. I’m positive of that, based on other cases.

 

[gitana1]

Incapacitated doesn't necessarily mean literally incapable, but legally incapable in this instance. Since she's unavailable and presumably not by her own choice, she's incapable of participating legally in anything. I think this is just for practicality at the time. I have no idea what would happen if she comes home healthy in body and mind, but I think also that this situation qualifies for declaring her incapacitated. They can't determine she's deceased, but she's unable to participate because she's not here. It's confusing and I'm sure it's very distressing for her family.

You’re right.

 

[al66pine]

Is Youtuber-TD's vid w BM admissible in crim trial?

...ETA: He’s been known to follow suspected perps, Idaho in the Daybell case, for example, and try to get them on camera. Whatever he records, and could help LE will be inadmissible as evidence. Anything from further investigation bc of leads from the videos will be inadmissible. Fruit of the poison tree. So now LE will have to have a different source to admit evidence at any legal proceedings, for search warrants, and rework their case. He’s potentially botching up the investigation. ..

@Midwestmom2019 bbm Respectfully, not sure why youtuber vid would be inadmissible under FotPT/Exclusionary Rule if BM was tried for a crim offense connected w SM's disappearance or death (azz-uming he is arrested, so hypo only).
Fruit of the Poisonous Tree/Exclusionary Rule, Criminal Cases*
"Private search doctrine: Evidence unlawfully obtained from the defendant by a private person is admissible." The exclusionary rule is designed to protect privacy rights, with the Fourth Amendment applying specifically to government officials." bbm So, imo, not gen'ly app here to youtuber's vid.
As @gitana1 posted a few hours ago, CO 's statute re recording conversations requires only one party consent, not both or all parties. **
Granted, these ^ are broad brushes, so this and any particular case involve nuances which change a trial court's ruling on admissibility. my 2 cts.
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Exclusionary rule - Wikipedia
Exclusionary Rule/ Fruit of the Poisonous Tree
"... does not apply in a civil case, in a grand jury proceeding..." "Evidence Obtained Indirectly from Illegal Activity"
"Other examples of inadmissible fruit of the poison tree include:

• Evidence seized during a search, where the probable cause for the search was illegally obtained evidence[25]
• A confession made by the defendant, prompted by the admission of illegally obtained evidence against him[26]
• Evidence derived from information gained in illegal wiretaps."

** Recording Phone Calls and Conversations
"Federal law (18 U.S.C. § 2511) requires one-party consent, which means you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation."
"Colorado.... In Colorado it is a misdemeanor to record an in-person conversation and a felony to record a phone conversation without the consent of at least one party. CO Rev Stat § 18-9-303 (wiretapping definition & penalty), § 18-9-304 (eavesdropping definition & penalty)."

 

[GordianKnot]

You’re right.

BBM:

Thank you!

Oh, wait...you weren't talking to me?

Whoops! Never mind.

JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes but in a case like this, if they really believed she was riding her bike near where it was found, or at all that day, they’d put out a description and photo of the bike along with her photo, and ask if she’d been seen in the area. I’m positive of that, based on other cases.

Yes. And they’d put out a physical description of her, like we have seen in every missing persons case ever. At least ones that are potentially an abduction.

 

[susiQ]

Suzanne's missing photo shows her wearing AirPods which can be tracked similar to an iPhone.

How to find your lost AirPods

How to find your lost AirPods

Hmmmm......and maybe they were found in the home? Which would be weird if she always wore them while riding. Or, they got planted along the way she “allegedly” rode to the trail? I really could see these as an item LE found without having to track them down. JMO

 

[Hannah3105]

Does anybody have a link they can share for Chaffee County arrest records? I can find a link taking me to an offender search by name, but no up to date arrest records. Thanks!

 

[Seattle1]

If she was weak from cancer treatments, how does a bike ride fit in?

I don't think SM was receiving cancer treatment at time of her disappearance. Treatment may have been as long ago as two years. By all current accounts, SM was reportedly seen working out at the gym with BM and an avid bike rider that would go out on Sunday rides.

Missing Suzanne Morphew may have had ‘angst’ about move to Colorado, family friend says [EXCLUSIVE]

May 22, 2020

A February post from a social media account believed to belong to Barry Morphew said that his wife had “beat cancer twice.” The Indiana-based source said that Suzanne’s cancer had returned around the time the family was preparing to move to Colorado in 2018, and that she “was not doing well” at that time. CrimeOnline cannot independently verify claims about Suzanne Morphew’s medical history. BBM

 

[Seattle1]

I saw an early report that no one actually saw her on the bike that day. Hold on.

Mystery around Suzanne Morphew’s Mother’s Day disappearance grows as friend says 'nobody saw her on bike'

May 21, 2020

A FRIEND of a missing mom who supposedly disappeared during a bike ride on Mother’s Day has claimed “nobody saw her on her bicycle.”

[..]

But her daughter’s friend’s mother claims “nobody actually saw her on her bicycle, sadly,” according to Crime Online.

“The neighbors up there are spread pretty far apart but the only reason they found out [she was missing] is because the girls called the neighbors and said, ‘We never heard from mom — can you go check on her?'” the friend’s stepmother said.

But, per the report, no one actually saw Morphew, who lives in Colorado, on a bike.

ETA: I believe DM named the mother of the minor (friend of minor Morphew daughter).

 

[Warwick7]

The risk with non-trained searchers is they might contaminate a crime scene and/or any evidence, plus there's the liability if one or more become injured while looking in the mountains. And where would you send these helpful others to search? LE is looking for info to lead them to a possible site, they're not going willy-nilly around the state. IMO

I have never seen where volunteers were not asked to help search.

1. "The father of a Minnesota woman missing for a month and presumed dead is making a plea to community members to join the search for his daughter's body this weekend."

2. "Milwaukee police are asking for your help in their search for a missing 31-year-old woman."

3. Missing Wheaton MN man: "Sunday morning, the sheriff's office is organizing a ground search for McCoy and asking for the public to join the effort. They are asking volunteers to meet at 8:30 a.m. at the Wheaton High School parking lot on Sunday."

Milwaukee police need your help in search for missing 31-year-old woman

Deputies ask for volunteers as search for missing 68-year-old man in Traverse County continues

Father of missing Minnesota woman seeks help for weekend searches | Duluth News Tribune

There are so many others also. It is beneficial when the community comes together and searches together.

SM is the only one (I've seen) where LE refused help from outside LE. There is a substantial reason they have refused outside help.
MOO

 

[gitana1]

BBM:

Thank you!

Oh, wait...you weren't talking to me?

Whoops! Never mind.

JMO.

Don’t worry. You’re almost always right!