Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #19

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BBM
What exactly do you think they’ve being doing? I have no doubt LE have been working this daily and it is a high priority for them to find resolution to what happened to SM. BM asserts he’s been cleared to TD. Where have LE stated this? They have not.

It stands to reason that no person has been "cleared" by LE because this is a missing person case. If it were a homicide case, sure.......there would be people under a cloud of suspicion, and undoubtedly some who had been cleared of that cloud.
LE is not generally known to comment on what might have been. IMO
 
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Imo, Spezze has been quick to tame multiple viral rumors in this case by repeating the same statement, SM has not been found, No one has been arrested in relation to the case, This remains a missing person case. Spezze has also replied to comments about family cooperation. So while he has had plenty of opporunities to do so, he has only announced that one person has been cleared, and that person was not BM. Jmo.
Could you identify that one person who has been cleared?
 
  • #43
I will add to this post. The nephew was asking people to ask LE what shape the bike was in. Sort of an odd question to ask if no bike was found!
Agreed it's extremely odd. ^^^

Who told him to ask that question ?
Is it possible that no bike was found---or even if it was, LE aren't sharing information with someone and that individual is becoming incensed and wants to know everything LE knows ?
Imo.
 
  • #44
This is a great post. I hope they LE can build a case based on circumstantial evidence.
Areas which I hope they can find DNA are
-On the bike. BM was furious with the way LE handled the bike. When speaking with TD, he stated that ten people handled it (that is a lot of people!).IMO he was trying to start his own defense in that LE ‘destroyed‘ the DNA evidence. He also mentioned that LE trampled all over the place (IE destroying footprints).
-On the other items found the first day scattered near the search.
-On the unknown item which was related to SM and which was found on Thursday500 meters 1/3 mile from their house and in a location which was different from where the bike was found. IMO I hope that the person who committed the crime dropped it during the crime.
IMO, MOO
^^^ Also a great post. ;)

IF BM was not there if and when the bike was found, how the heck would he know that ten people handled it ?
And if the area was trampled, which area exactly ?
Can BM show us ?
B/c LE have not divulged this information probably for good reason ---to protect the integrity of this investigation.
This was described as a missing person's investigation.
So was Gannon Stauch until LS was arrested.

Actions speak so much louder than words and the removal of concrete makes it look like LE are pursuing other avenues, just not saying what those other options are.
But one can infer from the breaking up of the foundation, that at some point LE want evidence that may have been willfully concealed.
Imo.
 
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Could you identify that one person who has been cleared?
I believe that poster meant the homeowner of the concrete foundation --the new residence ?
 
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This is a great post. I hope they LE can build a case based on circumstantial evidence.
Areas which I hope they can find DNA are
-On the bike. BM was furious with the way LE handled the bike. When speaking with TD, he stated that ten people handled it (that is a lot of people!).IMO he was trying to start his own defense in that LE ‘destroyed‘ the DNA evidence. He also mentioned that LE trampled all over the place (IE destroying footprints).
-On the other items found the first day scattered near the search.
-On the unknown item which was related to SM and which was found on Thursday500 meters 1/3 mile from their house and in a location which was different from where the bike was found. IMO I hope that the person who committed the crime dropped it during the crime.
IMO, MOO

I'm curious; if your loved one was missing and you believed evidence and a potential crime scene were mishandled, would you address it if you got into a discussion with someone that was asking you about the case?
 
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The term used "is not connected" means exactly what it says. The homeowner is not currently a resident of that area. It doesn't mean that she was "cleared" because she was never under any cloud of suspicion. IMO
If you have read the full discussion you know EXACTLY what my point is. Im not up for spicy pizza today Dave, nor do I care to argue tomatoes / tomatas. . Good day.
 
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Ita.
I think it's important to remember that LE in many cases do consider many possibilities, but in Suzanne's case they seem to keep coming back to the spouse and not clearing him.
As in, the search and removal of items from the Morphew house and the destruction of the concrete foundation of the homeowner who btw has been cleared.
Etc.
Imo.

Not to be morbid, but the items removed from her home may be used for DNA comparison if needed and nothing to do with a suspected crime,. We won't know what they took until we know what they took. I know they were there for several days; they were thorough.
 
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Not to be morbid, but the items removed from her home may be used for DNA comparison if needed and nothing to do with a suspected crime,. We won't know what they took until we know what they took. I know they were there for several days; they were thorough.
If they just needed Suzanne's DNA, it would likely be a very short search; all they would need for DNA would be her hairbrush or toothbrush.
MOO

ETA: They were there for what, 3 days?
 
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If they just needed Suzanne's DNA, it would likely be a very short search; all they would need for DNA would be her hairbrush or toothbrush.
MOO
ETA: They were there for what, 3 days?

They were there for several days; they were thorough.

1) It is a possibility that the things they removed from the home weren't related to any crime. We won't know what they took until we know what they took.
2) I assume they were looking for anything that would indicate what happened to her.

Both statements can be true. :)
 
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Thank you for finding this! I was out and about the last couple of hours and wasn’t aware that statement was being challenged.
Afaik Its only being challenged because of the way I worded it. Its an irrelevant argument for me because my point, imho was very clear.
 
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Could you identify that one person who has been cleared?
My apologies, @Dave F. , but I honestly do not know why this is such a sticking point for you? LE has clearly stated the homeowner is not connected. You have implied that the man who spoke in the interview is not the homeowner and implied that the homeowner is a woman. What is the significance of this? Maybe he's her partner,maybe it's her brother, but really, why does it matter who owns the home, when LE specifically said the homeowner is not connected?
 
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No sign of Colorado woman who vanished on Mother's Day

by McKenzie Stauffer
Tuesday, July 7th 2020


"Morphew disappeared after a bicycle ride on May 10. The next day, authorities found her bike but didn't say what condition it was in. Days later, her personal items were found near Maysville. A dive team searched along waterways and authorities asked residents who have home security cameras to save their footage, according to The Denver Post. Investigators, under a search warrant, took control of Morphew's home."


No words...........o_O
 
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My apologies, @Dave F. , but I honestly do not know why this is such a sticking point for you? LE has clearly stated the homeowner is not connected. You have implied that the man who spoke in the interview is not the homeowner and implied that the homeowner is a woman. What is the significance of this? Maybe he's her partner,maybe it's her brother, but really, why does it matter who owns the home, when LE specifically said the homeowner is not connected?

The point is that the homeowner was never connected to the case, in any way. LE cannot "clear" someone who they have not investigated. Therefore, saying the homeowner has been cleared while the husband has not is not a valid conclusion IMO
 
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No sign of Colorado woman who vanished on Mother's Day

by McKenzie Stauffer
Tuesday, July 7th 2020


"Morphew disappeared after a bicycle ride on May 10. The next day, authorities found her bike but didn't say what condition it was in. Days later, her personal items were found near Maysville. A dive team searched along waterways and authorities asked residents who have home security cameras to save their footage, according to The Denver Post. Investigators, under a search warrant, took control of Morphew's home."

No words...........o_O

The person who produced that article seems to have just used a list of bullet points that were posted elsewhere, but not actually researched and certainly not stated by LE. Also based on an article from several weeks ago.
 
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Well, during voir dire, the jurors would be questioned about their knowledge of the case, if they have certain expectations about how a husband with a missing wife might act, and if they have drawn any conclusions about the case. If indeed a potential juror already believes that it is "overwhelmingly likely" that Barry Morphew is involved in Suzanne's disappearance -- as MassGuy indicated, unless I'm misconstruing his post -- then the defense could (and IMHO, should) ask for the panel member to be dismissed for cause. This is because the fact that the potential juror already views guilt as "overwhelmingly likely" could reasonably endanger the defendant's right to an impartial jury.

Oh, so you were talking about jury selection. In the trials I've watched (many) rarely does a juror tell the Court outright that they cannot be impartial. It does happen, but it's rare.

Every single juror is asked by the Judge, after they attempt to get out of jury duty by mentioning some bias of theirs. In fact, last time I was called for duty, I sat next to a criminal defense attorney who argued that he had biases toward the defense because of his job.

Judge looked him right in the eye and said more or less, "Are you saying that you are incapable of being rational and fair in regards to evidence presented in this court?" Attorney hesitated, then said, "No, your honor." Judge: "So you are capable of rationality and following the instructions of the Court?" "Yes, your honor" Judge "Please have a seat in the jury box."

Very few jurors will say during voir dire "Yeah, I heard this Barry person was guilty and I believe it. I do not think anything could change my mind." Very few attorneys or judges use language like "Do you, Mr. Jones, think it is overwhelmingly likely that Barry Morphew is guilty?" There's a standard questionnaire that every juror fills out, which asks about which media they use (surprisingly little news reading going on these days). Then the defense attorney will obviously ask if they've been following the coverage (there's virtually no local coverage or any other kind of coverage in this case so far).

I worked as a jury consultant for about a decade, for both prosecution and defense.

If the bar becomes, "Have you heard gossip that BM may have killed his wife?" then I suppose the defense will have to file for a change of venue, because obviously, all the adults in this small town (where the courthouse is) will have heard that, as well as probably every adult in the whole county.

I do not think jury selection will be a problem. I think most people know that they set aside any rumors or preconceptions when they enter that box and most Judges ask exactly that. At any rate, the defense can only disqualify a limited number of jurors and the cause has to be more than, "Yeah, I've heard of Barry - he's the one whose wife went missing"
 
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I believe that poster meant the homeowner of the concrete foundation --the new residence ?
Didn't they also say the woman who called SM in as missing was not a person of interest?
 
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