Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #27

[Warwick7]

I double posted

 

[Warwick7]

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[Warwick7]

Actually, I've seen no evidence demonstrating that Barry Morphew had any motive to harm Suzanne. All I've seen, heard & read is speculation & conjecture. I'll keep an
open mind, but I'd want to see sworn testimony, texts, emails, audio, video, life insurance policies, etc.

Why would Barry or anyone offer any evidence (directly or indirectly) as to any motive to harm Suzanne?

Whoever is guilty--that person, is going to do everything possible to cloak his/her/their guiltiness.

 

[lamlawindy]

What Info Could LE Provide in IN Guardianship Procedure?
@lamlawindy posted this in the last thread: "The statutory language actually states that "Any person may apply for permission to participate in the proceeding," subject to the court's permission. IC § 29-3-5-1 (emphasis supplied)....
if police took part and, accordingly, are unlikely to do so. It would certainly be unorthodox for police to attempt to take part, but the ability to get a possible suspect to answer questions under oath doesn't occur very often...." bbm sbm

I wonder, at Sept hearing if LE might request permission to participate, and if so what LE might present (azz-uming BM has not been arrested in connection w SM' disappearance).
Any possibility sheriff or designee either would write, sign, file an affidavit or perhaps, testify at hearing --- since [date] CCSO has been investigating SM's absence as a suspicious disappearance (possibly a criminal matter) and has not cleared anyone of being a suspect???
^ does not disclose any definitive LE findings, not endanger the investigation.
^ any danger of BM (plausibly) claiming defamation of character?

Thoughts on ct's possible reaction to ^? TiA
As always I welcome comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.

Sheriff Spezze or his lead investigator would probably have to appear, testify, and be subject to cross-examination. Any exhibits would probably have to be provided to Barry Morphew's attorney days in advance. As @gitana1 noted -- and I agree -- Sheriff Spezze would "have to reveal his case" against Barry (if he has one) to take part in the hearing.

It's a risk: Sheriff Spezze's counsel would be able to call Barry as a witness under oath. The government cannot do that in a criminal case because of the 5th Amendment. Barry might reveal something while testifying that helps Sheriff Spezze's investigation. OTOH, Barry may just interpose the 5th Amendment, which may give the guardianship proceeding judge pause as to appointing him guardian.

 

[Seattle1]

BBM:

What's " 3-3o hours" supposed to mean, anyway?

Is he claiming to have had 3 separate 30-hour interviews with LE?

Was he trying to insinuate he'd logged 330 hours' worth of "testimony" with the FBI and CBI?

Or, (more likely), did he start to say he gave 3 hours of "testimony" and then decide he needed to make it sound more impressive, and inflate his figures (yet again) to 30, instead?

This "3-30 hours" is just another iteration of the "10 people" touching the bike.
Or having searched a "200-mile radius."
Or his buddy who knows more than anybody about this stuff having done "400 tours."
Or that offer of a 210k reward for info leading to SM"s safe return.

It's all a load of horsecrap.
All of it.

JMO.

I kind of have my own theory about another one of his Barryism's or his example of BM's difficulty quantifying things.

I think there's a good chance that BM's endured some long hours with investigators. Maybe more like 3 days, and BM's exaggerated math that calculates to 30 hours.

I think these have been interviews where BM was in the custody of authorities, Mirandized, and also told he was free to leave at any time.

I also believe at least one or more of these interviews took place while authorities were digging up the construction site in Salida.

If you're afraid somebody under watch may think about leaving the area during a crucial search for evidence, what better time to invite BM to come sit down with investigators.

Seriously, what's BM going to say as to why he's too busy to sit down with CBI/FBI on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday to talk about his missing wife? He can't because he found a tree to perch himself in overlooking the dig? Sorry, I'm going truck shopping?

JMO

 

[lamlawindy]

Why would Barry offer any evidence (directly or indirectly) as to any motive to harm Suzanne?

If he is guilty he is going to do everything possible to cloak his guiltiness.

I didn't say that he did offer any evidence. I was responding to @Herlock5 's rhetorical question, "Who other than BM had motive? Uh.. no one?" Barry may have had motive, but I've yet to see any actual evidence thereof from anybody, be it investigators, Barry himself, or anybody else.

 

[Warwick7]

I didn't say that he did offer any evidence. I was responding to @Herlock5 's rhetorical question, "Who other than BM had motive? Uh.. no one?" Barry may have had motive, but I've yet to see any actual evidence thereof from anybody, be it investigators, Barry himself, or anybody else.

Good point Ill edit my post.

 

[Seattle1]

Sheriff Spezze or his lead investigator would probably have to appear, testify, and be subject to cross-examination. Any exhibits would probably have to be provided to Barry Morphew's attorney days in advance. As @gitana1 noted -- and I agree -- Sheriff Spezze would "have to reveal his case" against Barry (if he has one) to take part in the hearing.

It's a risk: Sheriff Spezze's counsel would be able to call Barry as a witness under oath. The government cannot do that in a criminal case because of the 5th Amendment. Barry might reveal something while testifying that helps Sheriff Spezze's investigation. OTOH, Barry may just interpose the 5th Amendment, which may give the guardianship proceeding judge pause as to appointing him guardian.

What do you think the chances of BM circumventing being challenged in his request to be granted perm guardianship of SM by amending the petition where SM's daughter seeks to be appointed guardian of SM, and BM provides consent?

Or is this even a possibility pursuant to IC?

 

[Seattle1]

Are you saying BM might have had disdain for CCSO before Suzanne even disappeared? Maybe even specifically for Spezze himself?

Yup. That's what I'm saying. But it's just a feeling...

 

[Knox]

Yup. That's what I'm saying. But it's just a feeling...

I agree seems personal, JMO.

 

[NatKingCola]

RE: The Poncha Market Episode

Any reason to have taken the initiative to jot down the somewhat vague description of the helmet and biking clothes specifically there? Or maybe other businesses stayed quiet.

It was soon after, on the 12th at approx. 8PM. Could have been in town picking up more search supplies and doing what he could while on the trip? She said he knocked on the window. I’d like to know if anything prompted this, was he there initially and recognized? Or maybe going door to door as part of his search? On the back of a receipt no less (his?). I guess he may have asked for paper & pen if he had run out, if this was part of a planned canvassing...IMO.

 

[Herlock5]

I didn't say that he did offer any evidence. I was responding to @Herlock5 's rhetorical question, "Who other than BM had motive? Uh.. no one?" Barry may have had motive, but I've yet to see any actual evidence thereof from anybody, be it investigators, Barry himself, or anybody else.

Absence of evidence should not be construed as evidence of absence. I mean there is no body but we know she is deceased.

 

[Puzzles8]

Are you saying BM might have had disdain for CCSO before Suzanne even disappeared? Maybe even specifically for Spezze himself?

Very interesting angle.
Along similar lines, I've wondered if BM might have been in a "Fatal Attraction" situation?

JMO, MOO

 

[Fireflize]

Yup. That's what I'm saying. But it's just a feeling...

Why would you think BM would have disdain for a well respected man with a long successful career in law enforcement? Maybe because he wasn't able to impress him with his inflated sense of self importance?
I couldn't imagine them mixing socially. BM has to be top dog in any group to feel comfortable.
And I gotta feeling BM plays loose with rules of decent society.
Maybe he really tried to be that God fearing husband, hoping it would pay off for him. But it looks like he's been in a midlife crisis since moving to Colorado. Old cop had a great post concerning this. I think he was bored with his life and breaking a few rules. Moo

 

[Warwick7]

@OldCop
I hope you don't mind I want to bring back one of your posts!

It's excellent!

"I think a lot of folks here on WS have been speculating as to why LE seemed to narrow their focus very early on in this case.

First, to clarify a couple of things:
LE has never admitted that they found SM’s bike on the night she was reported missing. That information came from BM’s nephew, TN.

I believe the personal item you are referring to was actually found on the following Thursday, 10/15. That find, which LE did admit to, was discovered up near the intersection of Hwy 50 and Rte 225 and caused a large search to be initiated on the following day, Friday.
That search resulted in Hwy 50 west towards Monarch Pass being closed off for a greater part of the day on Friday. To our knowledge no additional evidence was found during that search.

Going back to your original question, no one but LE knows at this point what compelled them to narrow the focus of their search so early.

They were very quick to rule out accident and mountain lion attack. It seems they have also found no evidence of an abduction.

The most common theories that we have come up with is that something about the bike itself was off early on. Perhaps it was un-rideable, perhaps it was staged at its location. Perhaps a neighbor reported something, a neighborhood video caught something on camera, or there was something very incriminating at the scene.

You are correct when you say you might expect LE to be reassuring and comforting to the family of a missing person and that they would stand with them to get find out what had happened to their loved one.
BM has been vocal, (on the TD video), about his criticism on how LE handled this case from the beginning, but that may be a boisterous bluff.

*We *don’t *know *what *LE *found *out *very *quickly *but *it *appears *to *have *been *quite *incriminating.*"

And now we know LE was demanding answers from BM as soon as he "found out about his missing wife"...

 

[Barry]

I agree seems personal, JMO.

Personal in one direction. MOO. If you're used to people buying into your stuff, running into someone who doesn't is going to knock you off dead center. We have no evidence of any interaction between the two before this case. With regards to this case, BM wants to sell the bike, and LE (at least by their actions), isn't buying it. Goes back a number of threads, but what ever the issue is with the bike, there was a huge mistake made with it, and LE discovered this almost immediately. IMO, BM doesn't have a clue as to what that mistake is. LE isn't wasting time on the bike, or any ancillary theories surrounding it. LE is not doing anything arbitrary, I don't think that's how professionals behave. The harder BM tries to steer them, the worse it's going to get for him. MOO.

 

[Puzzles8]

Why would you think BM would have disdain for a well respected man with a long successful career in law enforcement? Maybe because he wasn't able to impress him with his inflated sense of self importance?
I couldn't imagine them mixing socially. BM has to be top dog in any group to feel comfortable.
And I gotta feeling BM plays loose with rules of decent society.
Maybe he really tried to be that God fearing husband, hoping it would pay off for him. But it looks like he's been in a midlife crisis since moving to Colorado. Old cop had a great post concerning this. I think he was bored with his life and breaking a few rules. Moo

It would also give credence to speculation that LE knew about the potential situation before the 5:46pm -911 call.

 

[PaulaDC]

Thanks for remembering @PaulaDC!
I'm pretty sure it was News 4-- I can still see the reporter and son standing in the street (in my head) as close to the roadblock as they could get, and immediately felt bad for MB, the elderly homeowner when she became portrayed as the Mrs. Kravetz of the hood.

A resident living next door for more than 30 years, she reminded me of my grandmother. I'm sure she's lost sleep over this-- not because of her exposure but because she's truly worried that a mother and town resident vanished from her town, and is likely dead and hidden nearby. Video clip of MB interview below.

Neighbors want answers two months into Chaffee County woman’s disappearance | FOX21 News Colorado

I wanted to use it on a post yesterday and ended up deleting my post because I couldn't find it. We need to record these news clips!

I didn't say that he did offer any evidence. I was responding to @Herlock5 's rhetorical question, "Who other than BM had motive? Uh.. no one?" Barry may have had motive, but I've yet to see any actual evidence thereof from anybody, be it investigators, Barry himself, or anybody else.

We can't see what we can't see. My gut feeling says whatever it is isn't something one talks about with others. Especially if you're worried about image. It's something one stews over. moo

 

[Barry]

It would also give credence to speculation that LE knew about the potential situation before the 5:46pm -911 call.

Or, a situation. They reacted very quickly on May 10th. IMO that's significant

 

[NatKingCola]

I’d speculate it was quite a few things off pretty much right away that triggered LE to confidently squash prevailing theories. The bike being the most obvious. For all we know, the tires didn’t have dirt from the road on them in the photos...assuming it was even rideable. IMO.