Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

[GordianKnot]

Can I just say what a fantastic job of acting as family spokesperson to the Moorman's Suzanne's brother is doing?

He's doing a yeoman's work advocating for SM and the rest of his family members right now.

THIS is precisely what being a spokesperson is supposed to look like.

Which is to say, AM is actually getting out on front of the cameras and, you know, talking.
Which as I understand it, is sort of the whole point of a spokesperson.

It looks like AM is seizing every opportunity he can find right now to speak out about his missing sister, utilizing multiple media outlets, including both SM and MSM, to get the word out.

He's also fielding every question that he's able to provide answers to, without any prevarication or obfuscation.

What a stark and refreshing contrast to TD's short-lived stint as BM's "family spokesperson."

Then again, the Moormans have nothing to hide.

So there's that.

JMO.

 

[susiQ]

You made me think. What if BM was 'working and didn't hear his phone?" Would the girls then call TN?
I don't think BM planned on having TN in the mix. He seems like a smart, decent guy. I think BM had chosen his good buddies to be there and back him up because he was successfully bs-ing them already. Moo of course.

I don’t think the girls would call TN. Too far away to be of any immediate assistance. No, I think Barry roped him in. TN only meant to help. I do believe he was deeply concerned for SM, but it didn’t take too long before the holes in BM’s narrative began to surface. I can only imagine the horror of what that felt like. To actually realize that your uncle may have murdered her. MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

When the nephew TN was interviewed by phone on television news (were there two interviews?), I recall him answering a direct question about the family searches, and whether or not they wanted help from the public. His answer was interesting and has stuck with me.

I have searched, including on the media thread, and I can’t find the full, unedited footage. If anyone has a copy and could put me out of my misery, I’d be most grateful!

eta fixed typo

I remember several news stations having phone interviews with TN and they are hard to find now. This article seems to have more quotes than others. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it strikes me now.
More about sharing the fundraiser than boots on the ground.JMO


Trevor hopes to keep the attention on his aunt and said the best way volunteers can help is by “pounding the keyboard.”

“We need people on their phones, people on their computers, posting the Facebook page, posting the GoFundMe, so if anyone has seen anything or knows someone who has, they must call the tip line,” Noel said.

Family pleads for safe return of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew who disappeared after Mother’s Day bike ride

 

[ivegotthemic]

Can I just say what a fantastic job of acting as family spokesperson to the Moorman's Suzanne's brother is doing?

He's doing a yeoman's work advocating for SM and the rest of his family members right now.

THIS is precisely what being a spokesperson is supposed to look like.

Which is to say, AM is actually getting out on front of the cameras, seizing every opportunity he can find to speak out about his missing sister, utilizing multiple media outlets, including both SM and MSM, to get the word out, and answering every question that he's able to provide answers to, without prevarication or obfuscation.

What a stark and refreshing contrast to TD's short-lived stint as BM's "family spokesperson."

Then again, the Moormans have nothing to hide.

So there's that.

JMO.

Its weird how much can happen in a case when the person trying to find their loved one actually makes an effort to help the investigation> And honestly I think it was smart to call out BM publicly so he cant claim to not know what was going or that he did try to reach out. AM still gave him the courtesy of not directly accusing him. BM's been claiming no one knows the trust and now he has a platform to clear up the inconsistencies in his previous statements because as he clearly forgot this is something a husband should want to do

 

[Ontario Mom]

Does anyone know what data can be found from electric usage. Can it be determined how much electricity as used after 5am on Mother's Day?

It definitely can. On my hydro (electric) bill it shows a daily usage, for on-peak and off-peak hours.

 

[DizzyB]

I think that there was a stronger bond with the Morphew side of the family back in Indiana. It’s not a reflection of anything other than sometimes things work out that way. Suzanne obviously loved her Dad, as evidenced in that fairly recent photo of the two of them. Sometimes kids-even grown ones-have little person to person contact with relatives, except through their parents. The parents would make the phone calls, arrange the visits, etc. So if Mom isn’t around, it changes the dynamic.

 

[Megnut]

So now we know why Barry thinks LE destroyed evidence. The two different points of view are very telling.

BM: “My buddy was there right after that, and he said that they completely destroyed the evidence, and he tried to stop them, but they wouldn't listen to him and said, "This is not CSI".'

AM: “I said to Barry ‘Hey, I don’t think she fell off the hill on that bicycle or rode over the edge.’ I said, ‘I believe a human being threw this down here.’ ”

It's almost like an INVESTIGATION messed up the staging.

"Let me tell you what happened."

Let me tell you what LE was supposed to see and do.

JMO but someone seems more frustrated with a bike story that didn't go as planned than the fact that a PERSON IS MISSING.

Helmets and biking cloths can be replaced.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

DBM double post

 

[Cindizzi]

On the PE tape with Andy Mormon he is talking about the neighbor and her checking the house and then going back to check for the bike. She tells BM that the bike is not there and BM says she must have gone on a bike ride. Andy then says at 8:44 that “around then Trevor or one of the kids showed up and they called the police and said, “Hey, we’ve got someone missing” .
Trevor lives about 2 hours and 15 minutes away from Salida. What was he doing there at this time?

AM said that the police showed up and began searching. Right after this AM says that BM said he had arrived home around 6:00 p.m. and by then they had already found the bike. According to CCSO, the call came in at 5:46. So, BM was initially telling AM that he had returned home within about 15 minutes of the call and the bike had already been found. Later BM told TD that he arrived home at 9:00 p.m.

I think perhaps BM called TN early on to go to Salida to check on his wife while he was wherever doing whatever. I think he did that to protect the girls somewhat.
I think that TN realized within a couple of days that he had been duped by Barry and that’s why he stepped away from everything. I don’t know if he is ready to publicly admit this yet, though. MOO

Speaking of nephew TN and his being BM’s spokesperson, I just ran across this article. Maybe it’s just me but I’m struck with how BM REALLY wanted news of the reward out there. Does it sound like TN didn’t even wait for business hours to make the call to the newspaper?
JMO

Missing woman Suzanne Morphew’s nephew, Trevor Noel, left a message with The Denver Post that said he would resume searching for her at 7 a.m. Thursday.
A family friend matched the $100,000 reward offered by Morphew’s husband, bringing the total to $200,000, Noel’s message said. He did not identify the family friend.

Suzanne Morphew search: Reward for missing Colorado woman increased to $200,000

 

[Diddian]

It's almost like an INVESTIGATION messed up the staging.

"Let me tell you what happened."

Let me tell you what LE was supposed to see and do.

JMO but someone seems more frustrated with a bike story that didn't go as planned than the fact that a PERSON IS MISSING.

Helmets and biking cloths can be replaced.

JMO

Good point!

So, how about another part of the staging be undone?

Those folks who still stand with BM and support his shifting theories of events unsupported by actual evidence (attack by mountain lion who removes prey's helmet, "hit and run" vehicle-bike encounter, abduction by a stranger, abduction by someone she knew) - why not invite BM to remove the conditional terms of that portion of the reward he is offering (the first $100,000 of the now $210,000 total)? Three months into SM's disappearance, shouldn't reward payout no longer be dependent upon SM's safe return? Surely BM wants SM's return no matter what, doesn't he? Certainly SM's brother and father have made it clear that they do.

If there is some person out there who has some reasonable basis for strongly suspecting something but that person also believes that SM's safe return is impossible, that reward provides absolutely no motivation for that person to take the risk of potentially offending or enraging anyone directly or peripherally involved by coming forward with the information that serves as basis for their suspicion.

It seems the terms could be worded in such a way as to make it clear the reward is for information provided to LE only and is not intended to motivate reward-seekers to go physically search (as LE has specifically requested people leave the physical search for SM to professional LE only).

Come on, Barry. It's only $.

ETA: For the record, I would hope that a person with information that might be helpful to LE would come forward because it is the RIGHT thing to do on behalf of an innocent victim and for those who mourn her loss and for the good of community which depends upon such civil behavior.

 

[SeattleStew]

Speaking of nephew TN and his being BM’s spokesperson, I just ran across this article. Maybe it’s just me but I’m struck with how BM REALLY wanted news of the reward out there. Does it sound like TN didn’t even wait for business hours to make the call to the newspaper?
JMO

Missing woman Suzanne Morphew’s nephew, Trevor Noel, left a message with The Denver Post that said he would resume searching for her at 7 a.m. Thursday.
A family friend matched the $100,000 reward offered by Morphew’s husband, bringing the total to $200,000, Noel’s message said. He did not identify the family friend.

Suzanne Morphew search: Reward for missing Colorado woman increased to $200,000

Is TN the son of the sister that went on a trip with the daughters?

 

[ivegotthemic]

So I know everyone has different opinions on lie detectors, and I feel like this is my moment to advocate for it.

Well an innocent person shouldnt have an issue with it. In a missing person case time is of the essence and this helps expedite clearing him, so they could look for the "real criminal". Whenever he talks to the police he has the right to have an attorney with him to make sure everything is by the book. Even though the result arent admissible in court they can he used to tallish a defendant cooperation with LE. By not taking the test he looks guilty and like he has something to hide. There could be a totally innocent reason, but LE can use the refusal to show that hes not cooperating and not telling the truth and it stops LE from looking at anyone else.

I interned at a criminal defense firm my 1L summer and my boss always advised client to take the test when something questionable popped up. It served two purposes, if they refused he knew they were probably lying. If they agreed he would use the test to try and get a better plea $350 is alot to pay out of pocket for someone if they think they'll fail (we used a private company). While not relevant from a legal standpoint its still useful as something to consider. BM could totally pay to have a private polygraph done. If he went that route and failed no one would have no know. Failing might look bad but it doesn't prove guilt, but refusing also looks bad sooo I cant see how continuing not to do anything could improve anyone opinion of him

 

[MassGuy]

So I know everyone has different opinions on lie detectors, and I feel like this is my moment to advocate for it.

Well an innocent person shouldnt have an issue with it. In a missing person case time is of the essence and this helps expedite clearing him, so they could look for the "real criminal". Whenever he talks to the police he has the right to have an attorney with him to make sure everything is by the book. Even though the result arent admissible in court they can he used to tallish a defendant cooperation with LE. By not taking the test he looks guilty and like he has something to hide. There could be a totally innocent reason, but LE can use the refusal to show that hes not cooperating and not telling the truth and it stops LE from looking at anyone else.

I interned at a criminal defense firm my 1L summer and my boss always advised client to take the test when something questionable popped up. It served two purposes, if they refused he knew they were probably lying. If they agreed he would use the test to try and get a better plea $350 is alot to pay out of pocket for someone if they think they'll fail (we used a private company). While not relevant from a legal standpoint its still useful as something to consider. BM could totally pay to have a private polygraph done. If he went that route and failed no one would have no know. Failing might look bad but it doesn't prove guilt, but refusing also looks bad sooo I cant see how continuing not to do anything could improve anyone opinion of him

Yeah. If my loved one was missing, I’d care more about them than myself. I would do anything law enforcement’s asked, as I’d want them to move on and catch those responsible.

If you are innocent and fail a polygraph, it’s not like you are going to be charged. LE needs actual evidence for that.

BM’s refusal is either stunningly selfish, or indicative of guilt.

 

[ivegotthemic]

Yeah. If my loved one was missing, I’d care more about them than myself. I would do anything law enforcement’s asked, as I’d want them to move on and catch those responsible.

If you are innocent and fail a polygraph, it’s not like you are going to be charged. LE needs actual evidence for that.

BM’s refusal is either stunningly selfish, or indicative of guilt.

YES and even if he fails he could claim it was nerves or being confused. Outright refusal is alot harder to defend

 

[TexieLouWho21]

this may be referring to an earlier question of whether or not you can erase the tracks made
by a bobcat driving through the woods.

My personal opinion is no. Even if you back blade you can still see work was done. If you are driving down a trail it will be breaking limbs and crushing grass. Like breaking limbs on the sides and up high on trails. Even if he back bladed the tracks away, grass on the ground will be disturbed.It will leave signs something was there. I dont know how many times I have walked under trees and thought "oh I can make that" only to be slapped in the face with a limb. So MOO no it will leave signs. Even back blading on a driveway will leave signs. MOO Also think of it like this, animals and humans leave signs LE can follow through the woods and across feilds. Just think how big of a trail a piece of machinery would leave.

 

[MassGuy]

YES and even if he fails he could claim it was nerves or being confused. Outright refusal is alot harder to defend

It says “I only care about me.”

We knew that though.

 

[NervousNellie]

YES and even if he fails he could claim it was nerves or being confused. Outright refusal is alot harder to defend

ITA. Anxiety and stress do cause false readings (I know from experience), but that would still be better than refusing altogether, IMO. Sigh. And for a while I thought he wasn't nearly as dumb as T.

ETA: My polygraphs were job related; I am not a crime suspect.

 

[Ontario Mom]

It says “I only care about me.”

We knew that though.

That was painfully obvious right away.

 

[sunflowerchick]

YES and even if he fails he could claim it was nerves or being confused. Outright refusal is alot harder to defend

I disagree. I would NEVER take a polygraph, innocent or no. There is a reason they aren't allowed in court. They are unreliable. I will give him a pass on this one thing. Other things, not so much.

 

[ivegotthemic]

ITA. Anxiety and stress do cause false readings (I know from experience), but that would still be better than refusing altogether, IMO. Sigh. And for a while I thought he wasn't nearly as dumb as T.

ETA: My polygraphs were job related; I am not a crime suspect.

on the off chance he takes it, at least you can tell us how plausible his excuses are