Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

[Ontario Mom]

So her treatments were possibly back in Indiana? Not likely she would change Oncologist, but she may have.

My late hubby had terminal cancer and circumstances out of our control had us move 2 states away while he was in the course of treatment. His current oncologist conferred with an oncologist in the other state, and the entire protocol was resumed immediately after we moved. I have no idea how common this is, but for us it was a smooth transition.

 

[ivegotthemic]

Just a general and hypothetical thought -- one way to know for certain whether or not a suspect is guilty of the murder of his wife is to go up to him and say "we found your wife and she is alive!" and observe his reaction. If innocent, the reaction would be one of immense relief and joy (maybe doubt at first, but sincere joy/relief would be the eventual emotion). If guilty, the reaction would be just sheer confusion and continued confusion (masked by phony joy/relief which would be pretty obvious). Obviously, I know you can't realistically do something like this on so many fronts, esp if the spouse wasn't actually found.....and it would also be beyond cruel if the suspect is innocent, but just on a purely hypothetical note....the response/reaction to this would be very interesting.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for SM (although I fear the worst) and for the comfort of those who are having to endure this painful time of uncertainty.

Absolutly. In the Jennifer Kesse disappearance case, investigators located jennifers car and waited to open the trunck until her boyfriend arrived at the scene. they wanted to guage his natural reaction. thankfully there was nothing in the trunk and the boyfriend was later cleared, but i cant imagine what he went through wait to open the trunk

 

[susiQ]

I doubt BM ever thought that AM would ever speak out and simply take his word for everything. And, not just AM, either.
Another thing I doubt is that BM's friends, buddies, coworkers whatever are on top of PE or LS or media so they might not even know what's been said. Maybe their wives might hip them to it all but BM would tell them that it's all bullshat and he's being FRAMED by LE, due to their ineptitude.

I think some of those people are “waking up” @marylamby. Yes, indeed. It’s not nice to throw people under a bus. It will come back to bite you in the arse. The walls are closing in on BM. In his attempt to direct attention away from himself he’s actually accomplished the exact opposite. Tick, tock BM. All MHO.

 

[Dylansmom08]

What I'm trying to figure out is why Suzannes' girls aren't talking to her family. Especially their grandfather in his frail state I would think that they would want to spend time with him before it is too late. I know that they are old enough to make their own choices but I wonder if BM has such a control over them that they do as he wishes regardless of how they feel. It has been said that he could be very controlling that leads me to believe that he may be controlling them now since Suzanne is gone. Of course it's all just MOO

 

[Ontario Mom]

What I'm trying to figure out is why Suzannes' girls aren't talking to her family. Especially their grandfather in his frail state I would think that they would want to spend time with him before it is too late. I know that they are old enough to make their own choices but I wonder if BM has such a control over them that they do as he wishes regardless of how they feel. It has been said that he could be very controlling that leads me to believe that he may be controlling them now since Suzanne is gone. Of course it's all just MOO

It's also possible that side (the Moorman side) of the family has been the subject of some trash talk, and the girls have bought the lies? It's impossible to really know, but the this side/that side of family distancing is all too common, unfortunately. I do hope they reach out to grandpa and let him know they're okay.

 

[susiQ]

Or he ignored it. It was "too soon".

I can see “too soon” has become our “well, exactly” for this sad case. These perps all think they’re sooooo smart.

 

[Hatch]

What I'm trying to figure out is why Suzannes' girls aren't talking to her family. Especially their grandfather in his frail state I would think that they would want to spend time with him before it is too late. I know that they are old enough to make their own choices but I wonder if BM has such a control over them that they do as he wishes regardless of how they feel. It has been said that he could be very controlling that leads me to believe that he may be controlling them now since Suzanne is gone. Of course it's all just MOO

If they have not had a close relationship with him for various reasons ( none of which we know either way) IMO it would be normal for them to not connect. Be hard to call up a Grandfather you did not have a relationship with to chat. AM stated he had never been inside the Morphew home, they have lived their 2 years. Family dynamics are complicated in some families. Some have close family ties and some do not.

 

[Hatch]

It's also possible that side (the Moorman side) of the family has been the subject of some trash talk, and the girls have bought the lies? It's impossible to really know, but the this side/that side of family distancing is all too common, unfortunately. I do hope they reach out to grandpa and let him know they're okay.

Amen ! All to common these days ! Sad to say.

 

[Nerissa]

I don't doubt that family has been following LE's lead...

& here they are - thumbing the screws

There's a reason for this, it's not random whatsoever ...

It's calculated logistics

They know where LE is going.....

They are doing what they can to put the pressure on

& not let anyone believe for a moment that the pressure is on anyone but BM

This was act, counter-act & now: direct hit (ie, family statement, BM's interview & now this new family statement)

No one does this unless with LE sanction - it would jeopardize the investigation

They are not keeping quiet now

Let's hope this is to flush out the quarry

JMO

 

[marylamby]

Agree! I speculate that since CBI spoke with the Moorman family things have deteriorated between the family and BM. AM searched for his sister alongside BM, but was not buying the “accident”, got down the hill, right from the get-go. However, he still never suspected BM. It appears now AM has serious doubts and BM needs to keep the girls isolated from anyone that has doubts about him, regardless that the Moormans would never in anyway attempt to influence the girls, they just want to know how they’re doing. I sincerely hope BM has one shred of decency left and answers AM’s plea for the girls to call their sick grandfather. He should be encouraging them to do so given his state of health. Right there you can see the lack of empathy. If BM were sick and dying would he not want to see or at least hear from his children or grandchildren. The man has no empathy and no conscience.

If a man could murder his wife (whether planned or not) and hide her body with no regard for his daughters and her family, don't hope for empathy nor decency. It's not there.

 

[marylamby]

I don't either. I think BM thought all of this would have blown over by Memorial Day, and he could start enjoying his status as the grieving widower.

Heck, there should be a long line of people bringing him casseroles by now, right?

OOOOH! Ain't it the truth! No food bill for months now. Dayum.

 

[Seattle1]

So her treatments were possibly back in Indiana? Not likely she would change Oncologist, but she may have. WY is a seizure of property state regarding unpaid hospital bills as example. A friend was forced to sell his mutilgenrational ranch because of a open heart surgery with the bill coming in at about $750K they gave them X amount of time or they would seize their property. It would be interesting to know where she was taking trea tments.

If SM's all-clear follow-up appointment on Monday was in Colorado, I'm inclined to lean towards Colorado where SM received treatment. I recall SM's fellow cancer patient citing her daughters accompanying SM to treatment but don't recall if the news reported on the location.

Relative to seizure of property for unpaid medical, WA state was the same until affordable health care act mandating medical insurance. Much earlier, I posted the links on how Colorado has some of the best insurance rates in the West under "Obama Care." I think capping the maximum family deductible helped to eliminate or prevent states from exercising the property seizure provision.

Private insurance companies cannot limit how much they pay for care in your lifetime. In the past, they could stop paying after a certain amount. But most cancer care is expensive. Some people had to pay for all their care after the coverage stopped. Now, your insurance company must keep paying for care. This is true even if you need a lot of care, such as for cancer.

The Affordable Care Act and Cancer

 

[Hair of the Dog]

I think some of those people are “waking up” @marylamby. Yes, indeed. It’s not nice to throw people under a bus. It will come back to bite you in the arse. The walls are closing in on BM. In his attempt to direct attention away from himself he’s actually accomplished the exact opposite. Tick, tock BM. All MHO.

Especially people who have been kind to you and trusted you....

 

[10ofRods]

It's also possible that side (the Moorman side) of the family has been the subject of some trash talk, and the girls have bought the lies? It's impossible to really know, but the this side/that side of family distancing is all too common, unfortunately. I do hope they reach out to grandpa and let him know they're okay.

Of course - exactly, that's how it works.

But oddly, BM still has (and is close to) his own mother.

 

[TKG]

Just a general and hypothetical thought -- one way to know for certain whether or not a suspect is guilty of the murder of his wife is to go up to him and say "we found your wife and she is alive!" and observe his reaction. If innocent, the reaction would be one of immense relief and joy (maybe doubt at first, but sincere joy/relief would be the eventual emotion). If guilty, the reaction would be just sheer confusion and continued confusion (masked by phony joy/relief which would be pretty obvious). Obviously, I know you can't realistically do something like this on so many fronts, esp if the spouse wasn't actually found.....and it would also be beyond cruel if the suspect is innocent, but just on a purely hypothetical note....the response/reaction to this would be very interesting.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for SM (although I fear the worst) and for the comfort of those who are having to endure this painful time of uncertainty.

Welcome to WS! If it were only that simple...

 

[al66pine]

Fishy Elements of IN Real Est Sale?

Agree.I mentioned this way back, when we first knew of it! Didn't know about the seller/buyer agent being the same so now it makes even more sense. This needn't be a pending sale that preceded SM's disappearance, unless someone knows where to find prior contract info and even that would be suspect.
It could've easily been set up after the fact as a sale to a 'family member' or LLC that would easily be transferred at any time. I wonder who the attorney was and if they handled both the seller and buyer and I'm sure this is BM's attorney.
Also, the sale may have been handled virtually due to Covid, no muss no fuss.

@marylamby Sorry to be dense, but is ^ post saying or suggesting ---
Q. #1. there was no pending sale/'under contract'/'part 1' of the IN real est transaction, before SM's disappearance, or if there was, it was bogus?
Q.#2. And then after SM's disappearance, that the real est sale was 'closed' /'part 2' when BM digitally signed deed w his name and siggy and w SM's name and siggy w no indication that he was a ct-appted guardian, to convey title to buyer?
But if ^ so and BM intended to fake her name and siggy for part 2, why would he bother to file for G'ship at that time, purportedly to close the sale? Why bother, if his plan was to do a bogus (as to SM's participation) digital close?

Q. #3. AND, why set up a phoney-baloney sale to a friend or fam member, w. either no $$$ being paid, or w $ amt substantially below FMV? If you think, like some here, BM needed those IN sales proceeds to buy Salida area subdivision lot, then wouldn't actual $$$ need to be provided to BM, to pay for it?

Q. #4. If there was an MLS (or equivalent) listing by an agent, then would r/e agent and r/e brokerage willingly 'go w the bogus flow' to participate in sham transaction? And pass up commission?

Q. #5. Ditto, title ins. co?

@marylamby, if I have misunderstood your post, I apologize. Heading to kitchen for more coffee.

 

[303gmf]

I think the treatments would have commenced in CO, but if anyone knows otherwise, please chime in! Thanks!

There is a well regarded cancer treatment center in Salida, many locations in Colorado, the parent company was in Dallas when I worked for them , all called Rocky Mountain Cancer Center. Known as RMCC

 

[mom2chloe]

I watched the most recent PE episode with AM and am wondering if the people he searched with were his friends or Barry’s friends. Does anyone know? TIA

I hope AM pursues continued searching and that LE invites Texas Equusearch. Maybe they can locate Suzanne if afforded the opportunity to assist in searching. IMO

 

[Hoss569]

Are bobcat "tires/treads" like car tires that they can connect the pattern to the vehicle?

Yes and No, there are typical tread specs and tire sizes that could be matched. But often times the tires are abused and could be mismatched as well as a ton of different styles. If it is newer, than yes it would be simple to match up.

There would definitely be more identifying features on a bobcat tire to match than a car tire. Often times there could be deep cuts, gouges or marks on the tires that would be present in the track that is visible.

Also as a side note, a bobcat or skid steer is one of the more heavier pieces of equipment, it can be twice as heavy as a tractor of the same size. I use to average the weight of a bobcat/skid steer at 7,500lbs when thinking of hauling one. It would be pretty rare for a bobcat to not leave a track on anything other than a hard surface. They leave skid marks fairly easy as well because of the way they operate. The wheels do not turn, you brake one side and power the other or vice versa.

 

[marylamby]

I recall TN was almost defiant when he made that statement to the reporter -- directing him AND the viewers to contact CCSO. Today, I think TN was reacting to BM's allegation that LE obliterated any potential evidence from the bike when it was recovered. Looking back with what we know today, IMO, it was like TN was putting CCSO on blast.

At BM's request, no doubt. But then again, I'm not discounting anyone as a possible facilitator of BM's 'innocence'.
TN's dropping out of the game early leads me to believe it's likely innocent on his part.