Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

[Love Never Fails]

Here's my answer:
If one of my loved ones goes missing, my first call is not going to be to a lawyer.
It's going to be to LE.

And I am not waiting for LE to ask me anything, because I'm going to be asking the questions right up front:

"What is it you guys need from me right now? What can I do?"
If they tell me I can take a polygraph, I'll take a polygraph.
Whatever they need from me, they're going to get.

I don't understand people's questioning the wisdom of cooperating with LE.
They're not out to frame the innocent.
Despite what some outlets and organizations would have you to believe right now, LE's not out to get John Q. Public, the law-abiding citizen.

If a person's not going to help LE with their investigative search efforts, why bother calling them in the first place? I mean, talk about mixed messaging: "Quick! You guys gotta find my wife! Just don't expect me to help you with that. I ain't going to be answering any questions."

I understand that defense attorneys will always say that people need to get themselves an attorney.
Because, job security!
That's just called being smart.

But the fear-mongering thing doesn't work for me, it really doesn't.

I'm not afraid of LE, because I'm not one of the bad guys.
I don't violate the laws of the land…at least, not unless I'm driving, and there's no traffic, and the speed limit posted is ridiculously low. Like 65 mph or something.
Then, maybe I'm a little nervous to see the red and blue lights flashing behind me.
What can I say.

Nobody's perfect.

Not even @MassGuy.

JMO.

Replying to you and @MassGuy,
I wasn’t speaking of hiring an attorney at the point my loved one is missing. I only meant if I have a close friend who is an attorney or he is saying to me “hey, don’t take a test if they ask you”. In other words, I am guessing they would be trying to help me as their friend.
It’s a moot point anyway because I don’t intend to break any laws, and yes, my first call would be to LE. And likely every division of LE. Then to all the TV stations etc., family, friends, neighbors, etc.
And God help me if I found the perp before LE did. At that point I might need a defense attorney,

 

[lex8396]

Would this golf course be on his route to/ from where he claimed he was when she disappeared?
From the new details ....does that mean the bones were most likely put there AFTER the completion of the golf course? Otherwise, wouldn't the bones have been inadvertently buried/ dispersed during and within a construction process?

 

[Janeumayer]

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course
A skull and other bone fragments were discovered

Douglas County Sheriff's Office personnel investigate the scene at West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch Thursday, Aug. 27.
ELLIOTT WENZLER

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• 

Posted Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:29 am
Elliott Wenzler
[email protected]
The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday it has begun a death investigation after deputies found human bones in Highlands Ranch.

At about 5:20 p.m. on Wednesday, a resident called the sheriff’s office to alert them that the resident had found a human skull and other bone fragments while playing disc golf at the West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch, according to a press release from DCSO. The resident was searching for a disc when they discovered the bones in a ditch filled with trees and brush, according to a spokesperson.



My comment. This is an area where a golf course was completed in May and it seems a little coincidental that Suzanne also went missing in May and now human remains are found there. MOO.

ETA if you look at the tent picture, is that a skull on the table inside the tent?

You are completely right. If you click on the top picture, you can clearly see the skull with a hole in the top frontal portion. Looks like it was either hit by something or shot at. Then to the left of it is the jaw. There’s some vertebrae, the pelvic bones but cannot see them clearly. Plus two ribs. Cannot make out if it’s a man’s or a woman’s skull but it is small compared to the officer’s head standing guard nearby.

 

[MassGuy]

I don’t think this body is going to be Suzanne, and the longer this goes on, I expect this will keep happening.

Bodies will be found, and we’ll wonder for a time if they could be her. The reality is that bodies are found all the time.

BM had time to work with, and the knowledge and means to hide Suzanne well. I don’t think her remains are likely to be randomly stumbled upon.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I disagree. It's not theater, it's an investigative tool. You do realize that LE can see which questions one fails or passes on, right?
I agree 100% with Gitana1. Everyone knows the results are inadmissible at trial but if you REALLY want LE to find a MP or a murderer and are innocent, you take it so they can get on with business. I would.
They don't have time to play games.

It’s really insulting for anyone to believe LE would play games anyway. This is their career. It’s what they do. I’m in full support of our LE. Where would any of these cases be without LE giving their time and attention in helping victims of crimes?

 

[al66pine]

Bequeathed Real Est in IN?? Divorce?

Have we covered IN community property laws re: RE bequeathed to only one party? BM's name is not listed.

@marylamby are you asking -- who gets it, a partial property interest in a real est parcel, either w or w'out home?
One point to bear in mind: A couple may enter a pre- nuptial (or post-) agreement, to set terms for property division on separation, divorce, or death, or all three, so the st. prop laws may not apply w those events.

This post relates to (hypothetical) DIVORCE.
"... nine community property states: Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin...."
Equitable Distribution (Divorce)
"In the remaining states, [al66pine ed: like IN, where they lived for 20+ yrs?] assets and earnings accumulated during marriage are divided equitably (fairly), but not necessarily equally...." bbm rbm
From https://www.divorcenet.com/states/nationwide/property_division_by_state <--- part of nolo.com

IN. law.
"Marital property is property a couple acquires during marriage, while separate property is property one spouse owns before marriage, or acquires by gift or inheritance while married. Although Indiana law makes a distinction between marital and separate property, a judge may divide all of a couple’s property in any manner that seems fair, regardless of which spouse actually owns it or when it was acquired...
" .... a court will presume that an equal division of property is fair unless one spouse presents evidence of unfairness, and a claim that certain property is separate may support an argument of unfairness.
"Marital and separate property can become mixed together—sometimes called “commingling.” bbm See more at link, esp'ly list of factors judge is to consider. Can be very difficult to trace when a couple transfers prop back and forth, into jt a/c, then some to wife's a/c, then shw writes check to make major purchase (ex: car?), when it is sold, proceeds are deposited to his bank a/c. Multiply that over the years, and who knows, unless at the time of each buy, sell, deposit and withdrawal, they keep accurate notations and records.

Personally won't try to predict what would if BM or SM had filed for divorce, could not agree on prop division themselves, and how a judge might order division.
As always, welcoming comment, clarification, correction from members of our legal profession. jm2cts.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I don’t think this body is going to be Suzanne, and the longer this goes on, I expect this will keep happening.

Bodies will be found, and we’ll wonder for a time if they could be her. The reality is that bodies are found all the time.

BM had time to work with, and the knowledge and means to hide Suzanne well. I don’t think her remains are likely to be randomly stumbled upon.

I’m afraid you are correct but really hoping you are wrong. I want her to be found.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course
A skull and other bone fragments were discovered

Douglas County Sheriff's Office personnel investigate the scene at West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch Thursday, Aug. 27.
ELLIOTT WENZLER

• 
• 

Posted Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:29 am
Elliott Wenzler
[email protected]
The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday it has begun a death investigation after deputies found human bones in Highlands Ranch.

At about 5:20 p.m. on Wednesday, a resident called the sheriff’s office to alert them that the resident had found a human skull and other bone fragments while playing disc golf at the West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch, according to a press release from DCSO. The resident was searching for a disc when they discovered the bones in a ditch filled with trees and brush, according to a spokesperson.



My comment. This is an area where a golf course was completed in May and it seems a little coincidental that Suzanne also went missing in May and now human remains are found there. MOO.

ETA if you look at the tent picture, is that a skull on the table inside the tent?

It's pretty hard to tell for sure, but it sure does look like a skull, and a lower mandible just to the right of it, along with other fragments. Yikes.

Hard to believe they'd leave them sitting out in the open like that but they sure look like bones & a skull to me.

jmo

 

[tresir2012]

It's pretty hard to tell for sure, but it sure does look like a skull, and a lower mandible just to the right of it, along with other fragments. Yikes.

Hard to believe they'd leave them sitting out in the open like that but they sure look like bones & a skull to me.

jmo

I think you're right that looks like a mandible to the right of a skull.

 

[NoSI]

Jepsy Amaga Kallungi comes to mind. Has she been found? I think she went missing from CS.

Good thinking @SuziQ! No, I don't think she has been found. There has been zero MSM coverage in a long time. Or I have missed it... but did quick google search and can't find any recent MSM coverage.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don’t think this body is going to be Suzanne, and the longer this goes on, I expect this will keep happening.

Bodies will be found, and we’ll wonder for a time if they could be her. The reality is that bodies are found all the time.

BM had time to work with, and the knowledge and means to hide Suzanne well. I don’t think her remains are likely to be randomly stumbled upon.

Given the way he's lied repeatedly to cover his mistakes (or whatever he's lying about) , I'm not so sure he's got the knowledge to successfully conceal a deceased person. He might think he did, (don't they all?) if in fact he did, but I suspect when she is found, it might reveal just how sloppy this whole vile mess really was.

jmo

 

[ReckoningDay]

Here's my answer:
If one of my loved ones goes missing, my first call is not going to be to a lawyer.
It's going to be to LE.

And I am not waiting for LE to ask me anything, because I'm going to be asking the questions right up front:

"What is it you guys need from me right now? What can I do?"
If they tell me I can take a polygraph, I'll take a polygraph.
Whatever they need from me, they're going to get.

I don't understand people's questioning the wisdom of cooperating with LE.
They're not out to frame the innocent.
Despite what some outlets and organizations would have you to believe right now, LE's not out to get John Q. Public, the law-abiding citizen.

If a person's not going to help LE with their investigative search efforts, why bother calling them in the first place? I mean, talk about mixed messaging: "Quick! You guys gotta find my wife! Just don't expect me to help you with that. I ain't going to be answering any questions."

I understand that defense attorneys will always say that people need to get themselves an attorney.
Because, job security!
That's just called being smart.

But the fear-mongering thing doesn't work for me, it really doesn't.

I'm not afraid of LE, because I'm not one of the bad guys.
I don't violate the laws of the land…at least, not unless I'm driving, and there's no traffic, and the speed limit posted is ridiculously low. Like 65 mph or something.
Then, maybe I'm a little nervous to see the red and blue lights flashing behind me.
What can I say.

Nobody's perfect.

Not even @MassGuy.

JMO.

Blue Ribbon post!

 

[MassGuy]

Given the way he's lied repeatedly to cover his mistakes (or whatever he's lying about) , I'm not so sure he's got the knowledge to successfully conceal a deceased person. He might think he did, (don't they all?) if in fact he did, but I suspect when she is found, it might reveal just how sloppy this whole vile mess really was.

jmo

I think that aspect is different. He’s not smart in regards to deception, public image, or well versed in how crimes appear to others. He apparently lacks self awareness as well.

But this man knows the outdoors, and he knows how to operate certain machinery. If anything, I would expect her body to be well hidden, but he may have left a digital trail that gives law enforcement an idea where to look.

If he had left a trail though, then I think Suzanne would have been found by now.

I’m convinced that this was sloppy as all hell, but he did get one part right. Hiding Suzanne effectively.

 

[mom2chloe]

Given the way he's lied repeatedly to cover his mistakes (or whatever he's lying about) , I'm not so sure he's got the knowledge to successfully conceal a deceased person. He might think he did, (don't they all?) if in fact he did, but I suspect when she is found, it might reveal just how sloppy this whole vile mess really was.

jmo

I completely agree. Any man who suffers diarrhea of the mouth consistently regarding the investigation into his missing wife can’t be expected to make a wise choice in disposal of a body or remains. I still lean toward premeditation but because he has made so many conflicting statements I also can not doubt that he made stupid mistakes.

 

[TKG]

I completely agree. Any man who suffers diarrhea of the mouth consistently regarding the investigation into his missing wife can’t be expected to make a wise choice in disposal of a body or remains. I still lean toward premeditation but because he has made so many conflicting statements I also can not doubt that he made stupid mistakes.

We agree but for differing reasons. I have not found BM to have diarrhea of the mouth in any way.

As a matter of fact, his silence has spoken more to his involvement than any one thing he has said.

I am convinced that he only lies when his lips are moving. I do think he’s trying to keep it together but is mentally unfit to hold together the lies. The scope of this investigation, the publicity it has garnered and the number of people convinced he is involved mess with his ego. IMO, the most fragile aspect of BM and also what I believe will be his undoing.

As many others have written so eloquently, I would do anything and everything to assist LE. Whatever needs to be done with me would be handled tout de suite so everyone could move on to where she may be or the actual perp found.

 

[GordianKnot]

I wonder if BM called LE as soon as the story was published about the human remains to ask LE questions about identification, whether it was a male or female, whether or not they thought it could be SM, if clothing and/or jewelry was found on or near the remains, etc.

One would assume that a husband who's been frantically and tirelessly searching for their missing wife would immediately jump on any and every report of human remains being located.

So, who's thinking BM was ringing the phone off the hook down at the station today?

Anyone? Anyone?

JMO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think that aspect is different. He’s not smart in regards to deception, public image, or well versed in how crimes appear to others. He apparently lacks self awareness as well.

But this man knows the outdoors, and he knows how to operate certain machinery. If anything, I would expect her body to be well hidden, but he may have left a digital trail that gives law enforcement an idea where to look.

If he had left a trail though, then I think Suzanne would have been found by now.

I’m convinced that this was sloppy as all hell, but he did get one part right. Hiding Suzanne effectively.

One thing we know though, when LE gets that one piece of information they need, an experienced DA will be able to get a conviction without a body. My only reluctance in having one hundred percent confidence is the current DA doesn’t have the experience. Did BM possibly count on that?

 

[Ontario Mom]

But this man knows the outdoors, and he knows how to operate certain machinery. If anything, I would expect her body to be well hidden, but he may have left a digital trail that gives law enforcement an idea where to look.

RSBM

I would agree that he knows how to use certain machinery, but I'm not entirely convinced he's the superstar outdoorsman, especially with how he continues to go on about the mountain lion idea when he should know darn good and well it's a load of hooey.

I suppose that could be a case of - either he's really ignorant in that area, or he's just hoping everyone else is and his story comes across as believable.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

One thing we know though, when LE gets that one piece of information they need, an experienced DA will be able to get a conviction without a body. My only reluctance in having one hundred percent confidence is the current DA doesn’t have the experience. Did BM possibly count on that?

That’s something he’d count on now, not then.

I think his whole plan was to stage the scene, and draw attention away from himself. He planned to get away with this completely.

He wouldn’t be concerned about who the DA was, as it was never supposed to point back to him.

 

[Dr.StClements]

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course

Human bones found at Highlands Ranch disc golf course
A skull and other bone fragments were discovered

Douglas County Sheriff's Office personnel investigate the scene at West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch Thursday, Aug. 27.
ELLIOTT WENZLER

• 
• 

Posted Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:29 am
Elliott Wenzler
[email protected]
The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday it has begun a death investigation after deputies found human bones in Highlands Ranch.

At about 5:20 p.m. on Wednesday, a resident called the sheriff’s office to alert them that the resident had found a human skull and other bone fragments while playing disc golf at the West Fork Disc Golf Course in Highlands Ranch, according to a press release from DCSO. The resident was searching for a disc when they discovered the bones in a ditch filled with trees and brush, according to a spokesperson.



My comment. This is an area where a golf course was completed in May and it seems a little coincidental that Suzanne also went missing in May and now human remains are found there. MOO.

ETA if you look at the tent picture, is that a skull on the table inside the tent?

GRAPHIC
Yes, unfortunately, a photographer has managed to capture a photo of the skull, and what looks like a pelvic bone using a long-distance lens. That is someone's daughter/son, not a collection of bones to be broadcast to the world.
Those bones could belong to a child/teenager. No-one close to this person (murderers excepted) deserves to be confronted with such an image, especially when it's the first sighting of their deceased loved one they will have had in goodness knows how long.

The tent should be concealed from cameras and prying eyes on all sides. The photographer knew what s/he was recording on camera.