Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #29

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  • #621
Yes, there is something to that^^^. When someone has been dating/married to someone since they were teens, they often feel like they could never allow someone else to love and marry them---but they don't want to be married to them any more either. [If I can't have you...]

It is kind of like an 'all or nothing' situation when it's your first love and things go sideways.

I do feel like there might be an element of this mixed in with whatever financial motive might be triggering him as well.
I wonder if these two ever had any marriage counseling.
I've found that guys like BM wouldn't put themselves into that situation cause they always think they're right. Also sets them up to being the "bad guy" in a situation.
And maybe he didn't really want to change the
game. He wanted his cake and eat it too. ??
 
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CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #26
^^See the entire post quoted by OP for clarity at link #26 above.



@RumorMonger,
I don't believe I've had the privilege to know you or your posts so I apologize in advance if I get this wrong.

But before I advance one keystroke further, I have to say that I'm absolutely dumbfounded by OP's ability to retrieve my post of 18 August from three (3) locked threads ago. BRAVO??!!!

I'm sure I speak for others in desiring OP's knowledge of how to quote archived posts from a locked thread. Please tell! My practice limits me to only linking my locked posts from thread #26 (linked above for clarity).

I'm also not sure about this "putting me on the spot."
When one is addressed directly, is the courtesy of a reply not required?
(Don't say it-- probably another redundant British practice)...:)

OK, getting back to your stated assumptions that people that know the respondent and the family dynamics are supposed to speak for the missing person and protect their interest, and they are allowed and encouraged to have legal counsel themselves, I agree in part, and offer the following:

To be clear, my quoted posts on the matter of guardianship for a missing person are not intended to challenge or allege in any form that BM has done anything illegal or underhanded by petitioning for guardianship of SM.

I cannot find fault with BM, or any other petitioner, for using the only law available to them under the circumstances of a missing wife. That would make no sense to me.

However, what I am doing in this post is using BM's petition, and his circumstances, to further my opinion that serious flaws exist in the Indiana State Statute providing for guardianship of missing persons.

Indiana Law defines who is entitled to notice that a petition has been filed for your loved one and that a guardianship hearing has been scheduled. If you're not entitled to be notified, there is no provision in the IC for a guardianship petition hearing regarding your loved one to be publically advertised to alert or otherwise notify interested parties such as, in this case, SM's father, siblings, Godmother, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.. People, that as you stated, are best suited to understand the family dynamics of the missing person in order to determine where intervention is needed.

More specifically, IC 29-3-6-1(a) states:

(4) If it is alleged that the person is an incapacitated person, notice of the petition and the hearing on the petition shall be given to the following persons whose whereabouts can be determined upon reasonable inquiry:

(A) The alleged incapacitated person, the alleged incapacitated person's spouse, and the alleged incapacitated person's adult children, or if none, the alleged incapacitated person's parents.


Applying the Indiana guardianship rules pursuant to IC 29-3-6-1(a) to BM's circumstances and petition for guardianship of his wife, only two people were required notified that the serious issue of guardianship of SM was even before the Indiana court. I don't understand how any intervention, as you stated, would be possible under this law.

(A) The alleged incapacitated person [SM], [missing, cannot be notified],
the alleged incapacitated person's spouse [BM],
and the alleged incapacitated person's adult children [MM],
or if none, the alleged incapacitated person's parents [not applicable].

According to public records, BM filed a Petition to Establish Guardianship of SM and other documents including Consent of Interested Party in Hamilton County, IN, on June 1, 2020 - only weeks after SM was reported missing. Court records also indicate a Motion was filed to Waive the Hearing, and by Court Order, BM was granted Temporary Guardianship of SM on June 5, 2020.

In the Hamilton Superior Court 1, Hamilton County, Indiana
Case No. 29D01-2006-GU-000096


A Guardianship Has been established for:
Suzanne R. Morphew
Incapacitated Adult/Minor
Year of Birth: 1971
Guardianship Type: Temporary

Guardian(s) Guardianship Of Issue Date Expiration Date
Barry L. Morphew Individual and Estate
6/5/2020
9/3/2020

https://public.courts.in.gov/grp/Search/Detail/187708?Detail=True
Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

Since June 5, 2020, BM has had Letters of Guardianship for SM, empowering him to have full control over his Ward's (wife) entire estate without anybody ever knowing except for his adult daughter (and/or anyone BM chose to tell or confide in).

Reportedly, none of SM's family had any knowledge whatsoever that the issue of SM's guardianship was before any court! If not for a reporter reaching an unnamed sibling, seeking any comment about BM selling real estate located in Hamilton County, IN while SM was missing, it's quite likely they still would not know that BM was granted guardianship by court order.

Again, let me be clear that according to Indiana law, BM had/has no legal requirement and was under no obligation to inform anybody about his petition for guardianship except for his adult daughter, who also provided her consent. BM is guided by the law for missing persons, and it's my position that Indian law fails to protect missing persons including SM.

It's my opinion that Indiana law approving a grieving spouse and adult child--probably in shock, to consent to life-changing decisions on behalf of their missing wife and mother (pretty much in secret), less than a month since she vanished does not adequately protect the missing, respondent. I believe it was the fore founders of probate court that recognized the need to prohibited certain actions for six months as a safeguard to protect the grieving from bad decisions during a fragile period.

To answer your last question, I do not believe the solution here is "just providing a free lawyer."

I've made other suggestions on what I think the Indiana General Assembly might consider changing in a subsequent post in closed Thread #26, linked below.

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #26

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #26

MOO
Thank you for these insights, Seattle1.
Reading the information makes me feel physically sick - a real physiological reaction to what I see as a gross injustice. I can't remember where I first read that Suzanne comes from a family who have built up their businesses and are financially comfortable as a result, and that during the earlier years of SM and BM's marriage, Suzanne's parents helped them financially.
If that is the case - irrespective of how financially healthy the couple is now - I find the current situation even more sickening.
I get that there was a house sale in progress before SM went missing and that in order to complete the sale, BM had to seek help via the courts to complete the sale in July 2020.

However, I find it offensive in the extreme that he has free rein to do what he wants with their joint assets only a month after Suzanne first goes missing.

Would there have been any way for the courts to have limited BM's authority to the one transaction (house sale)? It beggars belief that oversight is vested only in the older daughter. What a responsibility to place on her when she is already so traumatized and grieving for her mother.
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@Dr.StClements sbm Thank you for your post.
{{{ETA: after reading @Seattle1 's comments as quoted in @marylamby 's post 528, upthread, I feel Seattle1 may have more info and insight into specifics of BM's petition and the ct. order, but I'll leave this post intact, as FYI re what I believe to be gen bus. practice. TYVM, @Seattle1 }}}

Bbm #1. Iiuc, BM was given authority by ct, to close June?July? IN. prop sale. Not sure if BM has free rein already w all their jt. assets. Iiuc (and not saying I do, because I have not seen pleadings, ct orders, & other dox), ct appt'ed him as Gdn/granted him auth'y. to act only as to that one home prop, which would imo have been specifically listed in the petition originally filed.
Also iirc, BM/BM's atty did not file an inventory until after first ct order/apptmt re that one prop. was issued.

Bbm #2. Based on gen business practices described below, I doubt that now/before Sept(?) hearing, that BM can manage to wangle any real est or brokerage a/c transactions. But no predictions from me about what will happen in the fall or re bank accts.
Stepping away from the M's specifically, say, ;)Harry Husband & Wanda Wife, (;) my favorite hypo couple), are in a situation in which HH petitions for Gdnship , because of WW's long term coma after car crash. HH files petition and inventory of prop, assets, accts, etc and requests apptmt/authority over all of them. Something like this, but more details, addresses, etc -->
Inventory: 1st Nat'l Bk checking a/c ($5,000); Derrill-Bynch brokerage ($ 15,000 IBM common stock); Gedility Mutual Funds ($ 30,000); Rental house ($ 125,000); Rental duplex ($ 200,000); Rental office bldg ($ 350,000),
< in WW's name only.

Iirc, the court (virtually? always) specifies in its Order/Letter, the properties, assets, accts, which HH has auth'ty to handle. At least IME at HQ of a national investment brokerage, HH is not allowed to place buy or sell orders for stocks, mut fds, etc, or make withdrawals, write checks, etc , in WW's a/c, unless/until home office law/compliance dept had reviewed ct doc's to verify that HH had been given auth'ty by the ct do do so.*
IME w real est, title ins. co's exercise similar scrutiny over real est transactions.

Personally cannot address bank practices, so hoping some others , esp'ly our legal professionals, will weigh in, to
comment, clarify, or correct. And if their exp. w other types of businesses or institutions is different from mine.
my2cts
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* Of course, some other situations allow HH to transact business for WW, for ex. if WW is named as trustee of WW's trust agreement of tr dox, or if WW executed a power of atty authorizing him to do so.
@Dr.StClements sbm Thank you for your post.
{{{ETA: after reading @Seattle1 's comments as quoted in @marylamby 's post 528, upthread, I feel Seattle1 may have more info and insight into specifics of BM's petition and the ct. order, but I'll leave this post intact, as FYI re what I believe to be gen bus. practice. TYVM, @Seattle1 }}}

Bbm #1. Iiuc, BM was given authority by ct, to close June?July? IN. prop sale. Not sure if BM has free rein already w all their jt. assets. Iiuc (and not saying I do, because I have not seen pleadings, ct orders, & other dox), ct appt'ed him as Gdn/granted him auth'y. to act only as to that one home prop, which would imo have been specifically listed in the petition originally filed.
Also iirc, BM/BM's atty did not file an inventory until after first ct order/apptmt re that one prop. was issued.

Bbm #2. Based on gen business practices described below, I doubt that now/before Sept(?) hearing, that BM can manage to wangle any real est or brokerage a/c transactions. But no predictions from me about what will happen in the fall or re bank accts.
Stepping away from the M's specifically, say, ;)Harry Husband & Wanda Wife, (;) my favorite hypo couple), are in a situation in which HH petitions for Gdnship , because of WW's long term coma after car crash. HH files petition and inventory of prop, assets, accts, etc and requests apptmt/authority over all of them. Something like this, but more details, addresses, etc -->
Inventory: 1st Nat'l Bk checking a/c ($5,000); Derrill-Bynch brokerage ($ 15,000 IBM common stock); Gedility Mutual Funds ($ 30,000); Rental house ($ 125,000); Rental duplex ($ 200,000); Rental office bldg ($ 350,000),
< in WW's name only.

Iirc, the court (virtually? always) specifies in its Order/Letter, the properties, assets, accts, which HH has auth'ty to handle. At least IME at HQ of a national investment brokerage, HH is not allowed to place buy or sell orders for stocks, mut fds, etc, or make withdrawals, write checks, etc , in WW's a/c, unless/until home office law/compliance dept had reviewed ct doc's to verify that HH had been given auth'ty by the ct do do so.*
IME w real est, title ins. co's exercise similar scrutiny over real est transactions.

Personally cannot address bank practices, so hoping some others , esp'ly our legal professionals, will weigh in, to
comment, clarify, or correct. And if their exp. w other types of businesses or institutions is different from mine.
my2cts
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* Of course, some other situations allow HH to transact business for WW, for ex. if WW is named as trustee of WW's trust agreement of tr dox, or if WW executed a power of atty authorizing him to do so.
Thank you very much for taking the time to provide information re Q I raised in my post - much appreciated! -
 
  • #623
Are we allowed to speculate about this person? Because I'm thinking not. Going to report myself for clarification.

"Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them. Posting their personal information, including names, addresses, and background data -- even if it is public -- is not allowed." Rules - Etiquette & Information
 
  • #624
Hoping that the PE guys and Lauren post content this week.
 
  • #625
Anybody think LE is tracking BM as we speak?

Do they know his every move by, maybe tracking his vehicles?
We know this was done in the case in S. Ohio where the 8 family members were murdered.
Is this something LE typically does in other cases?

MOO. Yes, I think LE is keeping a close eye on BM. My 2cents.

I’m not sure if it’s typical in other cases, but it was the case in Colorado Springs in Gannon Stauch‘s case. I wonder if maybe LE has even asked him not to travel out of state? MOO I’m sure BM is somewhat aware he’s being watched. I also have no doubts LE could easily obtain a warrant to install an electronic tracker device on his vehicle. BM doesn’t seem to change vehicles often. With SM still missing, I’m sure LE would love to find her. Who knows....BM could lead them to her unknowingly. I doubt we would be that fortunate, but one never knows.
 
  • #626
One of my friends went through a 2nd round of breast cancer, after being in remission for 20 years. She is in her early 50's, and has beat it again-- so far anyway.

And she has been very edgy and kind of short with people, including her husband. She apologises but says that she cannot keep quiet anymore when she feels she is wasting time or energy these days. She promised herself she would not stay quiet and be a people pleaser anymore.

And I have wondered if Suzanne may have had a similar awakening recently?
Boy, I get this! And I don't have cancer! But I do think when people go thru difficult experiences in their lives and reflect how they've felt and handled situations prior that they felt uncomfortable about, they make decisions to handle things differently in the present. This may have happened with SM, which could feel threatening to a controlling mate. moo
 
  • #627
This is pointless unless the task force gives them locations in which to search. I hope they have areas of interest in which they can deploy these people. I don’t think she’s anywhere near that house.

So I’m happy this is happening, but skeptical it will result in anything fruitful.
I'd sign up if the initial meeting place was Puma Path. Would love to see 1,000 people crawling all over that property while BM heads out for the gym.
 
  • #628
RSBM

I believe you are correct, but not because BM believes it himself.
I don't believe BM shares the same faith as SM.

jmo
BM worships at the altar of barrymorphew, IMO
 
  • #629
I think maybe BM got physically rough with SUZANNE because of an argument or because she had confronted him about something (financial, affair, etc.). It all was the last straw for her, and then BM felt he had to stop her from leaving. Knew she wouldn’t let any of it go on any more. IMO. All supposition.

But I could be convinced it was premeditated by a few weeks given all the coincidences.



I’m in Wyoming, half a day away, and a mountain girl who can pay her own way, so I’m thinking I might be able to sign up to help search. Depends on the timing with a couple of prior commitments.

SUZANNE has been on my mind daily since I first read about her case. I’d love to help in some concrete way.

Thanks to everyone here for their interest in justice for SUZANNE.

Thank you @windrower for your great responses in your post. I struggle trying to decide in my own opinion what could have happened to cause BM to go into a rage and hurt SM (if that’s what happened).

After being together for 32+ years, they certainly would know the buttons which can be pushed, imho. In my mind, it had to be SM confronting BM about a huge issue or she was planning to leave him. (Although I’ll add, there’s not been anything to suggest she was planning that.)
 
  • #630
The only other time I recall hovering over a thread so much was during Kelsey’s case.

Waiting, waiting, waiting......
 
  • #631
I just want to focus on this paragraph for a second: This is the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me,” Barry explained. “But I have got to keep my faith and trust in God. And Suzanne trusted the Lord and if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it. And we are just a Godly, loving, caring, family and this thing is just a tragedy.” First, this is the worst thing to happen to HIM. Not “us,” not “my family,” not “my daughters and I.”

When he says “...if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it,” I think he’s also talking about himself.

Basically, “I made a stupid mistake and my wife paid for it. Suzanne wouldn’t want me to go to prison for it though, because that would be a double tragedy.”

ETA Link

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

*shivers* as reminds me of what Chad Daybell said after his wife died...
 
  • #632
While it's true that the GU petition included a motion (and approval) for the sale of the couples former residence located in Hamilton County, IN, be advised the temp guardianship approved by the Probate Court on June 5, did not limit or prevent other joint ownership property from being quitclaimed to husband on July 24, with SM authorization given via her guardian.

As with durable power of attorney, guardianship papers are a very powerful instrument. The only difference really is a respondent gets to chose who they give their POA, and the court decides on the guardian. MOO

Thank you, @Seattle1
Goodness - this leaves me uneasy.
 
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It is not that i expected something else but im amazed that BM was not at the vigil. Jmo
 
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So my wife and I attended the candlelight vigil in Alexandria this evening. There were several video cameras there, so there may be video of the service out there at some point, but I'm happy to give a summary (all IMO, JMO):
  • The turnout was good, considering how small of a town Alexandria is - I'd estimate the crowd at between 125-150 people.
  • Andy said a few words - his focus was on his desire to "bring his little sister home" and to "get closure for him and his family quickly". He talked in glowing terms about PE, how supportive they have been to him, and how they are helping him organize a large search for Suzanne in Colorado starting on September 23rd. He said he hopes to get 1000 volunteers.
  • A pastor gave a prayer, someone else sang a couple of songs, one other person read some scripture. Andy finished with another ask to join him in Colorado ("I want to bring an army of people in to find my little sister") and a heartfelt thanks for all the support the community has shown him and his family.
  • There was a small table with large picture of Suzanne and a smaller picture of SM/BM/kids on it. There were yellow and teal balloons (I believe the yellow signifies "come home" and the teal was for the color of her bike helmet??).
  • There were buttons that attendees could take and wear - one bowl of buttons had just a picture of SM on them. Another bowl of buttons had a picture of SM and BM together on them. All of the SM buttons were taken - there were some SM/BM buttons left over (I thought this might be a barometer for where the town sits re: BM, JMO)
  • BM was not in attendance, but several members of his extended family were - many had homemade tshirts on (I believe they said something about bringing SM home and had a scripture verse listed as well). I have to believe there is some level of tension between the Morphew and Moorman families (how could there not be?), but I don't think you'd know it from being at the service. IMO, all these family members are victims and really deserve a lot of credit for how they've handled things (it sure seems to me that nearly every family has that one crazy uncle who talks to the media and says dumb stuff when something like this happens - and that hasn't been the case with this at all).
All in all, it was a very simple and nicely done service. Nothing really new, other than AM's organized search (with the assistance of PE, who he said will be bringing in a "ton of experts" to help) on September 23rd.

Once again, all this JMO, MOO.
Thank you so much for attending Suzanne’s vigil last night and sharing your observations and thoughts. The pictures brought tears to my eyes. The anguish SM Family is going through breaks my heart. Someone knows exactly where SM is, and to put her Family and loved ones through this torture is unconscionable, beyond the pale!

I so admire AM strength and determination to find his little Sister, sadly I fear her remains may never be found due to being hidden very well.

I wake up every day and go to bed at night thinking about Suzanne, praying and hoping for a resolution soon. The waiting is hard and the wheels of justice turn slowly, but I have confidence the LE agencies involved will bring this case to a resolution, SM family will have answers and most importantly, Suzanne will ultimately receive the justice she deserves.

IMVHO.
 
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  • #637
In regards to Chris with PE’s tweet, I’ve always been curious if there was 2nd or 3rd party involvement. Not necessarily in the act of murder itself but in the disposal and cover up of such an act. Perhaps a younger person or persons that would buy into BM’s dog and pony show. Maybe people whom BM could promise to pay 6 figures to and that kind of money would change their life. Maybe that is the kind of debt driving BM to sell off assets that aren’t rightfully 100% his. Maybe if that money doesn’t show up soon, those people might want to start talking.
 
  • #638
For everyone who wants to check out the vigil.

 
  • #639
How common is it for an innocent spouse or close relative to not show up for a vigil?
 
  • #640
It appears the families are split. Even if they weren’t, I don’t see family in CO, including BM, traveling to IN for a vigil. Her reported PLS was CO. IMO
 
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