Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31

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  • #81
Can someone refresh my recollection on what the time discrepancy being referred to about the bobcat machine is? TIA.

Also, as in the Daybell case.... sometimes the words mean two different things a la "burning limbs" text in that case. I'm prompted as to the double speak of a machine called a bobcat, and how Barry keeps mentioning the bobcat aka mountain lion aka Puma (there are many different names for same animal)

A bobcat (much smaller animal) is not a puma/mountain lion/cougar (much larger cat). They look completely different. When BM refers to the Bobcat, he's talking about a brand of dirt-moving equipment that he owns.

His references to the Bobcat have been weird -- he can't or won't describe the parts he had to fix on it, for example. But when he says Bobcat, it's the machine.
 
  • #82
JP could have seen some personal things or business related things that he should not have been privy to. So without knowledge of why the mail says, or is what it is, to him it may just seem like odd. He might of just be trying to be important or knowledgeable in the case, and for his benefit as well.
I believe that JP will be an important witness in this case. I think the defense team will disparage his motive and character, but he had interaction with BM around the time of Suzanne's disappearance and will provide valuable insight in regards to his words and actions. I believe that his testimony will be supported by other facts. The evidence will all fit together to form a damning picture.
Moo of course.
 
  • #83
So what I think is odd is that BM used the term "family emergency". If my husband was missing I'd just plain say, hey I had to leave because my husband is missing and I need to speak with the police. The term " family emergency" is just weird. The only thing at that moment to me would be the facts not the way I explained it or hid it. I mean you have someone who you called/saw willing to help you out on a job and you can't be clear with your explanation? I have a small business. I just tell it like it is. A couple weeks back it was my hubby fell and had a brain bleed. I didn't say, hey, we're in the hospital with a "family emergency" I just said it like it was. moo
 
  • #84
You're correct about not realizing the strength of the odor. I use bleach and obviously I can't smell it but someone always points out how strong the odor is by remarking that I turn on a fan or open the window. moo
My daughter uses it as well. She overdoes it. It just about kills me because of my strong sense of smell. I see nothing strange about the worker smelling this except that the hotel used too much cleaner. I have seen that happen many times.
 
  • #85
I'm replying to myself here; please bear with me!

Perhaps BM did something to SM on the Saturday evening at the place where the woman living near to the building site reported hearing heavy machinery being operated v late at night. If so, SM's body fragments/remains could have been washed away by the fast-flowing river immediately behind the building site.
He'd then be driving to the hotel to clean himself up under cover of darkness - much smaller chance of being spotted...
I also wondered if the river played a part in her disappearance.
Maybe someone can suggest the 9/25 search
should include parties searching the banks of the river, even several miles downstream.

I recall another case where LE threw a test body/parts of body into a river to see where a real body or parts would end up downstream.
I'd guess the flow speed and amt of flow would
depend on the time of year.
 
  • #86
I just had a thought on the mail thing.

Why would JP mention the mail to the FBI so quickly? He surely didnt know all that was going on by Sunday night or possibly Monday? He wouldnt have thought the worse for SM by the time he talked to FBI?

I am kind of not buying the mail story. Would JP have profited from being interviewed or sensationalizing things to a degree? Why would he have thought on Monday morning Oh I need to take all this mail with me as the Fed's may need it, instead of returning it to BM?


Monday morning? Do we know what day the FBI found out that he had rented the room? I don't know that we have seen dates on search warrant 4 such. Or perhaps the FBI found it from his first interview that he was there and followed up? And who contacted who? The co-worker contacted the FBI or the FBI contacted the co-worker? We really don't know.

And I haven't seen any evidence that he actually was there on Saturday, what I did always question from the very beginning is him leaving at 5 a.m. and going directly to the site.

As I knew that you can't check into a hotel until 3 PM. Yes, sometimes you can do an early check-in, but checking in at 7 a.m. and not having to pay for another day? Perhaps that's why the maid never came to pick up its towels or clean the trash can is because he checked in really early because he had stayed there so many times? It is a contractor friendly hotel which allow stuff?

And if he checked in at 7 a.m., which would have to have happened if he did indeed leave it 5 a.m., that is so strange why he would pay $100 just to get there at 7 a.m. and not go directly to the site unless he got that early check-in so early and did not get charged for the previous day.

What was he doing at the hotel that he needed to get there that early is it doesn't appear possibly that he ever went to the work site. Agree, it doesn't all add up.
 
  • #87
I believe that JP will be an important witness in this case. I think the defense team will disparage his motive and character, but he had interaction with BM around the time of Suzanne's disappearance and will provide valuable insight in regards to his words and actions. I believe that his testimony will be supported by other facts. The evidence will all fit together to form a damning picture.
Moo of course.
More will have to be revealed than just a strong smell or forgotten mail. Right now, his testimony doesn’t prove anything. LE has to have more than this! And I am sure they will or they won’t charge him.
 
  • #88
I just had a thought on the mail thing.

Why would JP mention the mail to the FBI so quickly? He surely didnt know all that was going on by Sunday night or possibly Monday? He wouldnt have thought the worse for SM by the time he talked to FBI?

I am kind of not buying the mail story. Would JP have profited from being interviewed or sensationalizing things to a degree? Why would he have thought on Monday morning Oh I need to take all this mail with me as the Fed's may need it, instead of returning it to BM?
I get the feeling JP is leaving some things out of the story. There’s probably more to WHY the mail made him think “alibi.” JMO that he’s only telling the part he can to the DM.
 
  • #89
My daughter uses it as well. She overdoes it. It just about kills me because of my strong sense of smell. I see nothing strange about the worker smelling this except that the hotel used too much cleaner. I have seen that happen many times.
I disagree with the hotel using too much cleaner. moo
 
  • #90
Anyway, I don’t see any red flags in JPs statement except maybe for the mail left in the room. Don’t know why it was there. However, if BM left in a hurry for the family emergency, he likely thought the maid would clean the room and forgot about the mail. As for the letter in the trash, maybe it wasn’t important to him. Just saying these things don’t seem strange by themselves.
^^sbbm

It was DM that first reported mail in the room. After LS interviewed JP in Salida, Fox21 reported one piece of mail in the trash that appeared to be related to property insurance.

Puckett also said he found a letter, addressed to Barry, in the trash inside the room. He said it involved property insurance and that he later turned it over to investigators.

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left Denver hotel, contractor claims room was “reeking of chlorine” | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #91
Just thinking about what’s come out in the past 24 hours and past discussions about BM and speculations of DV and narcissism- do you think there is ANY scenario in which BM folds? It might be a naive thought (especially in light of past cases), but might be the only way SM is ever found.
I think it may depend on how horrific his treatment of Suzanne's body has been. If she was dismembered, crushed, or burned, I highly doubt that he will ever reveal her location. It would expose to the world his monstrous nature. His image is of vital importance to his psyche. We see his bluster in the video with TD. He's constantly projecting a false self because his true self is unbearable. I think suicide is more likely than him revealing her location. IMO however, I think he will never admit guilt, be convicted, and think he will convince those closest to him he was railroaded. He has no clue as to what others can see. Moo of course.
 
  • #92
I just had a thought on the mail thing.

Why would JP mention the mail to the FBI so quickly? He surely didnt know all that was going on by Sunday night or possibly Monday? He wouldnt have thought the worse for SM by the time he talked to FBI?

I am kind of not buying the mail story. Would JP have profited from being interviewed or sensationalizing things to a degree? Why would he have thought on Monday morning Oh I need to take all this mail with me as the Fed's may need it, instead of returning it to BM?
FBI didn't get involved, according to msm, until the 14th, Wednesday. If JP spent 2 days
waiting for the job to develop, maybe he came home on Tues, slept on his info, found out the
suspicious nature of the investigation and then
went to LE. They referred him to FBI.
MOO
 
  • #93
I believe that JP will be an important witness in this case. I think the defense team will disparage his motive and character, but he had interaction with BM around the time of Suzanne's disappearance and will provide valuable insight in regards to his words and actions. I believe that his testimony will be supported by other facts. The evidence will all fit together to form a damning picture.
Moo of course.

Completely agree, and not so sure he can stay as tight lipped as some of the others that have information to share.
 
  • #94
So what I think is odd is that BM used the term "family emergency". If my husband was missing I'd just plain say, hey I had to leave because my husband is missing and I need to speak with the police. The term " family emergency" is just weird. The only thing at that moment to me would be the facts not the way I explained it or hid it. I mean you have someone who you called/saw willing to help you out on a job and you can't be clear with your explanation? I have a small business. I just tell it like it is. A couple weeks back it was my hubby fell and had a brain bleed. I didn't say, hey, we're in the hospital with a "family emergency" I just said it like it was. moo

Your post made me think of a co-worker who got a call his son was killed in a motorcycle accident. He simply said he had to leave because there was a family emergency. I remember thinking if we knew why he was leaving one of us would have offered him a ride and would have been concerned about him driving and being distraught. Just another perspective.
 
  • #95
Just thinking about what’s come out in the past 24 hours and past discussions about BM and speculations of DV and narcissism- do you think there is ANY scenario in which BM folds? It might be a naive thought (especially in light of past cases), but might be the only way SM is ever found.
He could. Operating from that he is guilty, it has to be hugely exhausting to fight this battle on all fronts, and try to keep up with all his stories. It should be clear to him where this all goes. I don't feel sorry for him in the least, though. MOO.
 
  • #96
^^sbbm

It was DM that first reported mail in the room. After LS interviewed JP in Salida, Fox21 reported one piece of mail in the trash that appeared to be related to property insurance.

Puckett also said he found a letter, addressed to Barry, in the trash inside the room. He said it involved property insurance and that he later turned it over to investigators.

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left Denver hotel, contractor claims room was “reeking of chlorine” | FOX21 News Colorado
Thanks. We can always count on DM to get it wrong.
 
  • #97
Thx Swede.
The New York Post article reads with a slightly different nuance in regards to the employee's feelings about an alibi. In this article, I understood that he may have felt the whole Denver job narrative was the alibi. No BM, no tools, left hanging for two days, no job.
Another thought, it will be interesting if there is camera footage of BM carrying tools inside, then back outside. I can't think why he would take them away if there really was a job and he expected that his employee would need them. I would also want to know if the tools made it all the way back to Salida. I really doubt that he tossed them. They were valuable to him. Unlike his wife. Sparklingly clean tools will add to a circumstantial case.
Moo of course.

In response to BM leaving his employee hanging with out tools or contact, is BM going to try and justify himself by claiming he was in a family emergency, his wife was missing, the last thing he was thinking about was work?

If BM’s family emergency was declared before SM was reported missing, BM is screwed.

JMO
 
  • #98
I believe that JP will be an important witness in this case. I think the defense team will disparage his motive and character, but he had interaction with BM around the time of Suzanne's disappearance and will provide valuable insight in regards to his words and actions. I believe that his testimony will be supported by other facts. The evidence will all fit together to form a damning picture.
Moo of course.
agree- JP is important here just to show the
evolution of 'the alibi'.
If BM were a smarter bear, he would have left
cash money for JP at the motel. These workers loves to be paid in cash cause many don't even have a bank account and now banks charge to cash a check, even if the bank's own check.
That little favor endears many contractors to their worker bees. Harder for the employer but a real favor for the worker.
IMO- and I have a family member worker bee.
 
  • #99
I disagree with the hotel using too much cleaner. moo
I had to travel five times in past twelve months. It has happened to me many times. I wasn’t making it up. I have even checked into a room with wet carpets and the smell was stifling. And I stay at very nice hotels.
 
  • #100
FBI didn't get involved, according to msm, until the 14th, Wednesday. If JP spent 2 days
waiting for the job to develop, maybe he came home on Tues, slept on his info, found out the
suspicious nature of the investigation and then
went to LE. They referred him to FBI.
MOO
I think this is a very plausible scenario. Especially if the "property insurance" mail was a cancellation notice - and it was printed on the envelope. I would think that was suspicious but I can't help but wonder if he heard some rumblings after the 911 call and the search was on and thought something might be up and took the mail. I just wonder about the towels.
JMO
 
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