Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31

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  • #861
Was just listening to Nancy. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace At 32:50 and further, she describes "it looked like the bed had been laid in".

Huh... I know contractors share rooms to save $, but ummmm, "the bed" vs. "one of the beds"? I would assume that room had two beds if he was coming to room with him.

Also, again... if Barry left early to go to work site to ready it... he already had napped and showered? Yet never went to the site?

I'm confused....

I would NEVER work for a company that has me bunking with my boss in a hotel room.

Barry knew before he got there that he'd be on his way home again before JP arrived. But at least during a LE interview he could look some investigator in the eye and say 'yes I stayed at the HIE in room 🤬🤬🤬'. Unfortunately, the fact that he didn't spring for two rooms for himself and JP suggests he already knew one wouldn't get used. Why pay?
 
  • #862
Maybe he didn't even consider cameras.... until the FBI mentioned them.

Ouch.

JMO
We know he's aware of cameras, based on those at his own home that coincidentally were said not be working o_O
MOO~
 
  • #863
I can't stand the smell of Pine Sol, Lysol, or ammonia. I always use bleach, but never so much that the smell is strong hours later. That's why I thought the bleach had been used in the hotel room shortly before JP arrived there. The odor dissipates after a while. Imo
The stench of clorox does not go away without a ton of aeration and time.
If I'd had any reservations before learning this, which I didn't, I would now not have a doubt in my mind who killed Suzanne.
 
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  • #864
Well, he had hoped to go swimming. So he arose early and went to the hotel. Where the pool was closed. Disappointed, and with nothing else to do (there was no job to set up), he splashed around extensively in the bathtub in his room, somehow wetting most of the towels (which had been over bleached by the hotel staff). Then he took a nap.

It was Mother's Day, after all.

Just like Goldilocks!
 
  • #865
I would NEVER work for a company that has me bunking with my boss in a hotel room.

Barry knew before he got there that he'd be on his way home again before JP arrived. But at least during a LE interview he could look some investigator in the eye and say 'yes I stayed at the HIE in room 🤬🤬🤬'. Unfortunately, the fact that he didn't spring for two rooms for himself and JP suggests he already knew one wouldn't get used. Why pay?

Unless you want to bunk with your boss.. Maybe the bed hadn't been "slept"in but was asunder. Maybe she (M) went with BM..
 
  • #866
BM is as crooked as the wall he builds. He explains away discrepancies by stating that the FBI lie to him. They probably seized the coolers and deliberately destroyed the bike evidence. All to plant the blame on poor old Barry.
 
  • #867
Unless you want to bunk with your boss.. Maybe the bed hadn't been "slept"in but was asunder. Maybe she (M) went with BM..
There are a ton of possibilities here, including the testimonies of the other man and woman who were supposedly hired for the job. Then there are another two guys I'd like to hear from.
This is going to be a very interesting case.
 
  • #868
Can you explain how barry would be framing JP? Why did hire the guy?
 
  • #869
Regarding the mail in the trash...if BM put it in there and JS saw it in the garbage what in the world would possess him to take it out? Obviously if BM put it in the trash he wasn’t planning on getting it back....it doesn’t make sense.
 
  • #870
Nancy Grace annoys the heck outta me! I can NOT listen to her.

I can't listen to her. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. I'm waiting for a synopsis.
 
  • #871
The stench of clorox does not go away without a ton of aeration and time.
If I'd had any reservations before learning this, which I didn't, I would now not have a doubt in my mind who killed Suzanne.
I think the smell of chlorine is a lot stronger than bleach. He probably used pure bleach or mixed it with very little water, which would explain the strong smell.
 
  • #872
“From what I understood secondhand, they said there was an overwhelming smell of bleach in the home,” he said.

oh wow.

“They did ask us, ‘why can’t we find any coolers at the house?’ And I said, ‘well I have no idea. I don’t know how many they had to begin with,” he said. “But I assume, as a hunter and a guy that maybe camps, he would have a few, and they couldn’t find a single one.”

this peaks my interest. has to be a reason CBI brought it up...

I wonder when CBI asked the question about the coolers? Was it during the initial search of the house? Maybe the girls took a few coolers with them camping.
 
  • #873
I wonder when CBI asked the question about the coolers? Was it during the initial search of the house? Maybe the girls took a few coolers with them camping.
I don't think they spoke to him until later on in the investigation so I would assume they didn't find any coolers in the home even after the girls returned. I wonder what Barry's explanation was for that.
 
  • #874
Regarding the mail in the trash...if BM put it in there and JS saw it in the garbage what in the world would possess him to take it out? Obviously if BM put it in the trash he wasn’t planning on getting it back....it doesn’t make sense.
Why the heck would he take mail with him anyway? Was it old mail BM had saved and needed to get it out of the house before it was searched? Isn't that suspicious? What an odd thing to do under normal circumstances.
I'm wondering if it was correspondence BM had kept in envelopes. Was it insurance paperwork? iirc some of it was.
 
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  • #875
He sounds extremely angry. I think it all started with the DM article saying he spent the night at a “cheap Denver hotel”. He hated that. Then the JP statements sent him over the top. I love it! MOO
Now there's a question... DID he spend the night (Sat) at the hotel? I don't think so. But I think he did check in Saturday. Jmo

We know he was at the hotel on Sunday, where he showered, napped, and possibly wiped down the room with Clorox and a rag brought from his house - just to be on the safe side - plus, Covid..). I don't think he cleaned a murder weapon there. Why risk contaminating himself (further) and the room? Surely he would've dumped it if there was one.

But I don't think he "spent the night" in the hotel room in Broomfield Sat night - because I think by 11:00 or 12:00 or 1:00 he was back at the construction site in E Salida doing something with - and possibly a few things to - the bobcat.

But that's not to say he didn't make two (2) trips to Broomfield: one trip on Saturday just to check in (because in terms of any alibi for the Sat afternoon/ evening time frame, this would help), and then a second trip on Sunday (somewhat less critical for establishing an alibi - and in fact this trip became kind of worthless for that purpose once BM learned that JP wasn't going to be arriving till after 6. I guess BM could've hung around the lobby all day, being visible.

I'm not sure why any of the recent talk about JP, the other two workers, and/or (especially) the condition of the bedroom (ie towels on the floor, he took a shower, he laid down on the bed, the room smelled like bleach, he was inconsiderate toward a later arriving roommate, and even the mail) would have anything to do with an alibi.. (maybe a supporting story..), but BM needed a very very specific alibi: for the time period between 12:30 pm Saturday and 5:00 pm Sunday afternoon.

Nobody was at the hotel with him (that we know of) during that time frame who could serve as his alibi. So, I'm not sure why even JP himself is thinking he might've been set up by BM as some sort of alibi. Why? How could JP be an alibi for BM if JP didn't even show up until 7pm ish? - after SM was already missing and after BM was already headed back home?

The workers were there on Sunday night to start a job on Monday. Again, BM didn't need an alibi for Sunday night or Monday, he needed an alibi for Sat afternoon thru Sunday afternoon.

Pure conjecture, but I think perhaps BM either: 1.) killed her Sat afternoon (not premeditated) and then (after turning off security sys, and possibly changing attachment on bobcat and removing it's GPS) immediately drove to Broomfield to check-in and to try to think about disposal and retroactively establishing best alibi possible or 2.) had a huge fight with SM at the house Sat afternoon and left in a murderous rage - and then while on his drive to the Broomfield hotel he devised a plan (premeditated) to return that evening, kill her, and dispose of her body.

But either way, he had to return to Salida that (Sat) night either to commit the crime or to handle disposal or both - and to change back the bobcat digging attachment to the shovel, possible re-attach it's GPS, and return the bobcat to the E Salida site). Jmo. I know there was some confusion over which night the E Salida neighbor heard (or said she heard) the half hour rumbling, but I think the statement/article is unclear. I believe she spoke to equipment operators on Monday am about rumbling that had occrred on Sat night. Jmo

BM probably then went from the E Salida site to his house at around 1:00 am to finish cleaning up the house and the truck, stage the bike, get the mail, grab some clothes and the bleach, and leave (possibly in different vehicle) at around 5:00 am for Broomfield, a nap, and a shower. If SM isn't now buried in the backfill at the base of one of the street-facing 9-10' basement concrete walls of the house (not the garage), my guess is that BM would've possibly disposed of her body on this trip back to Broomfield (maybe thrown from a high cliff, or into a ravine). Jmo He was physically strong enough, and pumped with adrenaline. He could've gotten her a long ways from the beaten path. Likely very remote.

If I'm wrong about SM being on the E Salida residential site, I think BM got rid of the her on one of his trips to Broomfeild (first trip under scenario 1 above, second trip under scenario 2).

All of the above Jmo. The two real keys to any and all speculation about the hotel room and whether it is of any significance at all are: When was the room booked? And when did BM first check in?

Eta: corrected typos
 
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  • #876
Back in May or June I posted a couple of links to information regarding the geological makeup of Colorado around Maysville. Plus a guide to all the abandoned mines in the area. I don't think BM is a criminal mastermind but one thing I do think he knows well is rocks. Boulders, granite, shale, gravel, etc. And I would imagine he knows where deposits of them are and how easy it would be to cover a dead body, or parts thereof, with rocks.

I keep coming back to that image of BM that TD mentioned where he was bare chested, soaking wet and cold looking the day before the videotape of BM explaining what happened to the bike. According to TD he appeared as if he'd been in the creek or the river and he walked up to his truck and sat in it with his chest against the steering wheel then he drove slowly away. I was looking at what was around there on the other side of the creek/river.

There is an old unused mine called Copper King mine just on the other side of the Arkansas River just a bit south and east of the Morphew home. I wonder whether he placed SM somewhere near that mine or under a wash of stones. Or parts of her.

I have no real idea how SM was killed. Initially, I thought it would be a bloodless murder like a strangling, drowning or suffocation, since I believed it was premeditated and that blood evidence would have been discovered during the search of the Morphew home in late May. But now we know about the abrupt end to the social media messaging between SM and her friend, I'm not so sure. It could be they got in an argument that escalated and she just got disgusted with the whole thing and put her phone down an walked away. And he followed her.

But BM being seen soaking wet and cold makes me think he was ensuring that something he had hidden was still hidden.

I also wondered whether the building site was dug up because cadaver dogs got a hit under the cement and even though it appeared they had no physical evidence in terms of bone fragments, etc I wondered if soil samples provided evidence of a dead body. JMO MOO
Thx for this post. It is encouraging that you feel that the daughters will be able to detatch from their father's enfluence. Moo

I hope they do eventually. It's not a cast-iron certainty. Some individuals are so irreparably damaged that they never recover and seek alternative ways of salving the pain (drugs and/or alcohol use, or even by taking their own lives).
The therapeutic work necessary to instill in their minds the firm belief that they are in no way to blame for their mother's death will be of paramount importance. It's difficult to get that process underway without an arrest and successful prosecution. The Morphew girls may be in limbo for some time, which will compound any existing trauma.
I'm hoping that the search, should it go ahead (it could be preempted by an arrest) will be a watershed moment for them. BM is likely already very stressed at the prospect of others looking for his wife, and how he should behave during the search. His daughters will be witnessing this first-hand. My hope is that any incongruity rises sufficiently to the surface to sow seeds of doubt in their mind/s and there'll be people around (e.g. Andy Morphew) who'll show them unconditional love, compassion, and support. This is often a tipping point.
Fingers crossed.
MOO
I’m sure he is telling them everything that he’s told LS. He’s explaining away any and everything that is disputed against him. It’s their dad, of course they want to believe him. IMO.

Unfortunately - right now - they need to believe him. It's not a voluntary behaviour.
 
  • #877
You can see the kindness in Suzanne's eyes, I imagine that she impacted a lot of people, whether she knew them well or not.

well, she is surely leaving an impact now, regardless if she did throughout her life (which i am, also, very positive she did)! a whole world of complete strangers have eyes on this case, and we will not stop until justice prevails.
 
  • #878
Very weird he brought his mail into the hotel room. Weird too that he left it there.

Possibly both things are true -- ONE piece of mail AND a stack of mail. One stack on a desk and one piece of mail in the trash. Straight oversight he left them there?

Maybe the second warrant at the house was to search for coolers. Right time for incriminating video footage to be trickling in. Perhaps coolers captured in the bed of a certain truck, in the style of PFrazee and the black tote.

I'm gonna need an adventurer to head toward the creek, down by where TD said BM surfaced that day.... to look around. Not necessarily to see what's in the water but rather to see what's directly ACROSS from it.

Any fresh boulders?

JMO
 
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  • #879
Regarding the mail in the trash...if BM put it in there and JS saw it in the garbage what in the world would possess him to take it out? Obviously if BM put it in the trash he wasn’t planning on getting it back....it doesn’t make sense.
You're taking very few things into account, IMO.
What may make sense is LE asking JP if anything was amiss. They may very well have been there, we don't know.
If a hired hand were to sit there for days, he may have looked around and found it and other docs.
There are many reasons why this particular, and possibly other pieces of information, came to light.
BM could have copies of any and all docs somewhere. I have a safe deposit box, most people I know do.
I think it's quite plausible that he didn't want those docs found when LE would investigate his home.
I think he underestimated the man he hired.
Can't wait to hear what the other supposed 'crew' have to say.
 
  • #880
There are so many things he could say to help himself, but the interviews are constantly side-lined. Never a complete set of facts that are sequentially laid out. But rather piece-mealed in a way that leaves you with more questions than before. FRUSTRATING!

I'm going to table the smell of chlorine for now, it really may be unrelated. There are bigger questions that need to be answered.

If he left the tools in the hotel room, why is JP saying they had nothing to work with? If BM left the tools in the other employees room, surely JP would know that?
This case is driving me nuts! Why can't we just get a straight answer?

I think the reason we are all confused is due to word salads.

"The pathological narcissist uses word salads intentionally, to manipulate and control by inducing that confused, addled state you know so well.

It is a form of gaslighting, the ‘go to’ method for brainwashing to foster loss of trust in reality and yourself. As such, as well as the markers above, the narc’s word salad also includes blaming, denial, shaming and aggression."
 
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