Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #32

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Hmmm.. @oviedo I'm three years older than my husband and we share lots of friends, including high school friends (though we didn't live in the same state or go to the same college). People who are still in our lives or who know anything about either of us tend to know the other one pretty well. :) Especially since I travel for work. I'm big on trust and transparency. I love my marriage and my husband.

We have friends who divorced last year after the husband had a brief and very stupid affair with a high school ex he friended on Facebook. Our kids are still friends with theirs--it's a sad story. [Not speculating this in relation to Suzanne's case...]

Back to BM and SM--I mean, isn't this high school in their hometown? Aren't these friends from the town they grew up in together? And I think it was mentioned that BM uses Instagram more than Facebook. I wonder how much Suzanne used Facebook. She had messenger so she used it to communicate with friends. I wonder what groups she was in. She seemed to have stronger ties with her home state than BM. And yet....
 
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BBM
Facebook owns Instagram.

Facebook also has a dating app built in (similar to Tinder). It’s not impossible that BM was using FB for that app, and SM got in there on his phone and was scrolling through his dating connections. Then could have logged into her own FB account and started searching his friends and even public posts looking for someone she saw on the dating app. That could generate the friend suggestions to BM’s FB friends.
 
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Hmmm.. @oviedo I'm three years older than my husband and we share lots of friends, including high school friends (though we didn't live in the same state or go to the same college). People who are still in our lives or who know anything about either of us tend to know the other one pretty well. :) Especially since I travel for work. I'm big on trust and transparency. I love my marriage and my husband.

We have friends who divorced last year after the husband had a brief and very stupid affair with a high school ex he friended on Facebook. Our kids are still friends with theirs--it's a sad story. [Not speculating this in relation to Suzanne's case...]

Back to BM and SM--I mean, isn't this high school in their hometown? Aren't these friends from the town they grew up in together? And I think it was mentioned that BM uses Instagram more than Facebook. I wonder how much Suzanne used Facebook. She had messenger so she used it to communicate with friends. I wonder what groups she was in. She seemed to have stronger ties with her home state than BM. And yet....
I suppose each couple is different- I do think the age difference could be a reason they don’t share friends even though they both were in the same town - I would be curious about when these friends were added by the husband - unfortunately I know too many couples who have broken marriages because of “friends” reconnecting on FB- it’s actually shocking to me - I don’t think we will know the answers to this situation
jmo
 
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Listen,” Barry said during a Thursday morning phonecall, “Jeff Puckett was in prison for nine years.”

Still, Barry confirmed he had hired Puckett for a project in Broomfield on Mother’s Day Weekend this year. They needed to fix a wall, Puckett said.

“I said listen, I need to do this job, I will pay you good money to come and help me,” Barry said of Puckett. “I gave him a job and an opportunity.”

It was not a last minute project, Barry explained, the job had been in the works for a month.

“That has nothing to do with Suzanne missing,” he said.

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But Puckett said the crew couldn’t finish their work.

“We had nothing to work with,” he said. And he described what would have been necessary in order to complete that particular job.

“Once you build [the wall] up, you run a layer block, some dirt, get [it] inspected, then you keep continuing until the next level – and there was nothing like that to work with,” Puckett said. “That kind of pissed me off, so I come on back.”

As far as the paperwork left in the room, Puckett said he turned it over to authorities.

“I mean it’s either foul play or an alien has got her ,and we know that aliens are far-fetched you know what I’m saying but someone just doesn’t walk off the face of the earth like that and disappear it’s just not normal, it’s just not normal at all,” he said.

Barry confirmed to FOX21 News he had been in that room, and had also noticed a strong smell.

“I did not go to the pool and I did not get chlorine,” he said. “I’m sure that they washed the rooms with that for the covid. I don’t know, but I [smelled] it too when I was in there.”

A hotel manager said the pool isn’t even open, due to coronavirus restrictions. That manager also said the hotel uses peroxide multi-purpose cleaner in its rooms.

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“I did nothing wrong in the hotel,” Barry said. “There’s cameras all over the hotel, I did nothing wrong.”

Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado

I bolded a few word sequences that stood out to me, including:
- vacillations between "I'm sure" and "I don't know"
- claiming he didn't do anything wrong "in the hotel" as opposed to in general
- not leaving Puckett with anything to work with, i.e. no actual material for a job in place as if he just needed someone to show up for an alibi
- calling in Puckett and assuming that his prior prison record would be something he could hold up against him if Puckett decided to ask questions (i.e. "see I did you a favor and gave you an opportunity and look at how you respond, etc...)
 
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Facebook also has a dating app built in (similar to Tinder). It’s not impossible that BM was using FB for that app, and SM got in there on his phone and was scrolling through his dating connections. Then could have logged into her own FB account and started searching his friends and even public posts looking for someone she saw on the dating app. That could generate the friend suggestions to BM’s FB friends.

That's a super interesting suggestion but I wonder if BM was that dumb. I mean: that is just a terrible idea. And yet, married people do it every day. :( BM seems more like the type to look for vulnerable, shy women--maybe trolling gyms by being "helpful", although he and Suzanne went to the same gym in Salida. I don't know. I wonder about this.

MOO I can't imagine BM having an affair with someone from their hometown and that information not reaching the Moorman family?
 
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I'm trying to catch up so please forgive me if this has already been asked, @Hoosierfan72, but it's curious to me that BM that would be the one with all the Facebook friends. I wonder why more of the high school friends weren't FB friends with Suzanne?

Forgive the edit.

IMO Facebook is very superficial, is that the way you would communicate with your best friends?
 
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And we actually paid for them. Who knew?

ETA - if you submit your DNA for an ancestry test, I think your DNA information becomes part of their data base. Those are becoming very valuable data bases. And on top of it you pay them $100.

Ancestry.com also has a lot of potential for LE with investigative genetic genealogy.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/ancestry-dna-database-search-warrant

Social media is strange--it creates more opportunities for crime by reducing privacy, but it also helps LE solve crimes by providing enormous amounts of data and communication records?
 
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I'm trying to catch up so please forgive me if this has already been asked, @Hoosierfan72, but it's curious to me that BM that would be the one with all the Facebook friends. I wonder why more of the high school friends weren't FB friends with Suzanne?

Forgive the edit.

IMO Facebook is very superficial, is that the way you communicate with your best friends?

Messenger is absolutely the way I communicate with my friends and family, especially when it's related to social life, events, planning, and catching up.

I only text with family. And I don't post much on Facebook, but I use Messenger a lot. It doesn't feel any more superficial than texting. It's just a texting app--it has no relation to Facebook on your phone. In fact, you can remove Facebook from your phone (which I did a year ago) and still use messenger on your phone (which i do daily).

Also: Suzanne obviously communicated with her best friends on Messenger and I don't think it made her superficial. I think it's just how people communicate now.
 
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I suppose each couple is different- I do think the age difference could be a reason they don’t share friends even though they both were in the same town - I would be curious about when these friends were added by the husband - unfortunately I know too many couples who have broken marriages because of “friends” reconnecting on FB- it’s actually shocking to me - I don’t think we will know the answers to this situation
jmo

Same. Same. :(
 
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Really ??? I know my kids, grandkids and spouse logins and PW to many SM accounts.
Not unusual.

OK, thanks for saying this @Spartygirl because I've been known to ask complete strangers in Starbucks if I can use their FB account!

Fortunately, MSM news networks including reporter LS TV FB account allow me to view without a FB login/account but if I want to see something all are buzzing about, I've been known to ask, and somebody has handed me their phone. (I'm shocked most never log out). :eek:

Now I'm sorry for whatever may pop up -- given I'm usually viewing a crime victim or the suspect's FB!
 
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That's a super interesting suggestion but I wonder if BM was that dumb. I mean: that is just a terrible idea. And yet, married people do it every day. :( BM seems more like the type to look for vulnerable, shy women--maybe trolling gyms by being "helpful", although he and Suzanne went to the same gym in Salida. I don't know. I wonder about this.

MOO I can't imagine BM having an affair with someone from their hometown and that information not reaching the Moorman family?

Yeah, it would be a terrible idea, but as you said, married men do it all the time. May or may not lead to a full-blown affair. Sadly, many married men just use it for entertainment. Chat with multiple women on dating apps, maybe hookup with one or two out of town, then ghost them. Sorry to say, I know all too well how it works.
 
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I'm trying to catch up so please forgive me if this has already been asked, @Hoosierfan72, but it's curious to me that BM that would be the one with all the Facebook friends. I wonder why more of the high school friends weren't FB friends with Suzanne? For SAHM and cancer survivors, Facebook can be a resource that helps people process challenges and connect.

Also, it would be strange to me if my spouse were friends with girls from our SHARED high school that weren't also friends with me? It would just be, well, strange... I can't say I would trust old classmates that only friended him and didn't check to see if he was married?

Did BM's Facebook page feature photos of his wife? Did it mention he was married and link to her profile? If she was such a big part of his life and image, then why weren't more of his friends also her friends?

Thinking aloud and realizing this is very subjective, but I'm genuinely curious.

DW is in bed, but I think I can answer most of this for you, because I had some of the same questions and thoughts.

First of all, I wouldn't make the assumption that BM had more FB friends than SM. BM and SM were a couple of years apart in high school and it just happens that DW is closer in age, and therefore was friends with BM. She said BM was extremely inactive on FB, to the point that she (and others) wondered why he even bothered having a FB page at all. She said that the only reason she wasn't friends with SM is because she just never thought about it - I think had BM been more active on FB, it likely would have triggered that thought for her years ago.

As far as the friends/trust part of this - I think that has a lot to do with being from such a small town. The average graduating class in Alexandria is maybe around 100. There's one high school, one middle school, and only a couple of elementary schools. My wife has friends that she's known since second grade, male and female. I went to a high school with 10 times as many students, and just can't relate. So I think this is normal - I've gone with my wife to her high school reunions, and there's a closeness that just isn't there in larger communities/schools. I'd also say this about that closeness - I think there's accountability that's built in there as well - in such a small community - if there was anything inappropriate going on between married classmates, you better believe it would get out and people would call them out on it. All that to say, I wouldn't read anything into BM having FB friends that weren't also friends of SM.

I can't speak to content on BMs FB page (probably violates TOS anyway), other than he just wasn't active on it.

Hope that helps.....
 
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Messenger is absolutely the way I communicate with my friends and family, especially when it's related to social life, events, planning, and catching up.

I only text with family. And I don't post much on Facebook, but I use Messenger a lot. It doesn't feel any more superficial than texting. It's just a texting app--it has no relation to Facebook on your phone. In fact, you can remove Facebook from your phone (which I did a year ago) and still use messenger on your phone (which i do daily).

Also: Suzanne obviously communicated with her best friends on Messenger and I don't think it made her superficial. I think it's just how people communicate now.

I don't know if this is still true (or even true) but I did read a couple of years ago that your use of FB messenger was somehow tied to your top 6 friends (the 6 friends names that are visible on your page). Something to the effect that one friend can post on your wall daily and never make your "6 list," whereas somebody that's never even liked one of your posts is one of your 6-- based on your messenger activity.

MOO
 
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Sounds to me like it may mean Barry May have logged into her account with his phone or laptop? So the algorithm is making a connection between Barry’s friends and Suzanne, because FB is set up via email addresses which are linked to IP addresses?

Or am I a fool?
LOL, not at all. When my husband talks to friends of his on FB, I always know it by the 'people you may know' that pop up on my page. Never fails. I've noticed this for a long time. Don't tell him, tho, hahah.
IMO, this is no coincidence.
 
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Yeah. We heard this rumor early on that their security cameras weren’t working days before Suzanne disappeared. I think this actually came from Barry, and was a lie.

I think he killed Suzanne, and then disabled the cameras.

The more details we get, the more belief I have that this was a spur of the moment crime, and Barry had to react quickly to commit a coverup. There are lots of ways to commit a premeditated crime, but I wouldn’t expect anything like this if that was in fact the case.

If he disabled the cameras, would he have done that physically, or via an app, such as Ring or Nest? Wonder if the time they were disabled would thus be recorded.

Hopefully the camera company is subject to subpoena (along with social media, etc).
 
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DW is in bed, but I think I can answer most of this for you, because I had some of the same questions and thoughts.

First of all, I wouldn't make the assumption that BM had more FB friends than SM. BM and SM were a couple of years apart in high school and it just happens that DW is closer in age, and therefore was friends with BM. She said BM was extremely inactive on FB, to the point that she (and others) wondered why he even bothered having a FB page at all. She said that the only reason she wasn't friends with SM is because she just never thought about it - I think had BM been more active on FB, it likely would have triggered that thought for her years ago.

As far as the friends/trust part of this - I think that has a lot to do with being from such a small town. The average graduating class in Alexandria is maybe around 100. There's one high school, one middle school, and only a couple of elementary schools. My wife has friends that she's known since second grade, male and female. I went to a high school with 10 times as many students, and just can't relate. So I think this is normal - I've gone with my wife to her high school reunions, and there's a closeness that just isn't there in larger communities/schools. I'd also say this about that closeness - I think there's accountability that's built in there as well - in such a small community - if there was anything inappropriate going on between married classmates, you better believe it would get out and people would call them out on it. All that to say, I wouldn't read anything into BM having FB friends that weren't also friends of SM.

I can't speak to content on BMs FB page (probably violates TOS anyway), other than he just wasn't active on it.

Hope that helps.....
Yes it’s very helpful - and my guess is she may have even set up his FB account for him - and I didn’t realize their High school was so small.. thanks
 
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If he disabled the cameras, would he have done physically, or via an app, such as Ring or Nest? Wonder if the time they were disabled would thus be recorded.

Hopefully the camera company is subject to subpoena (along with social media, etc).
We have no clue what system they have, but I imagine it’s something like you suggested (Ring or Nest).

I know with the latter, you can delete video, and turn off specific (or all) cameras. Apparently that video is unrecoverable once it’s deleted.

So I think he could have done this after the crime, and claimed the problems occurred earlier. His issue is going to be that he didn’t regain access to the house until the first search warrant was completed, so investigators will know if the system was in working order or not.
 
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I do not think that a female employee could fake a conversation between two very close friends.

Probably couldn’t fake it for long. But.. the Frazee / Kenney duo briefly faked texts with Kelsey Berreth’s own mother.
 
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