Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #33

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  • #61
In that one, it appeared that he wanted it to all go away. It did. People look at that and say “she probably got lost.” If there was foul play, I fully expect him to get away with it.

This guy seems to want the same, but this case doesn’t have an innocent explanation, as realistic as an attack by Tony the Tiger is.

It’s only a matter of time here.
It makes me sick that the money hasn't been and won't go toward finding SM. His daughter has to feel this, deeply.
 
  • #62
It makes me sick that the money hasn't been and won't go toward finding SM. His daughter has to feel this, deeply.
IMO there is no possible logical reason to not give the money to the search efforts. Theres no excuse good enough to justify this. Its truly unconscionable and shows how little BM truly cares about his wives recovery efforts
 
  • #63
IMO there is no possible logical reason to not give the money to the search efforts. Theres no excuse good enough to justify this. Its truly unconscionable and shows how little BM truly cares about his wives recovery efforts
No truer words were ever said. His daughters have to see that, too. I do wonder how much control he has over them.
His eldest daughter supposedly has control of that gfys but one has to wonder if she really does.
 
  • #64
The teasers. etc., are to keep the public coming back, to listen to more interviews and updates and ways the public can help...
to keep this case and SM's situation in the public's mind and hearts.
And I'm 100% okay with that.
These guys don't have to do this, they want to.
And that's awesome.
It's not entertainment, it's genuine compassion and caring.
We'd all be lucky to have these guys in our corner if we ever needed them.

jmo
ITA with this.
I think their passion is similar to ours on here. They have a different avenue to get it out and help drive the interest in cases. I appreciate them big time!
 
  • #65
Hopefully followed by an arrest on Friday. I wonder if the release of all this information over the past two weeks is putting pressure on LE & the DA to make an arrest?
Especially if "I saw Suzanne at 5:00 AM sleeping in bed" is blown out of the water as promised ...
I hope LE is keeping an eye on the daughter's safety.
 
  • #66
@Kimmer

When GM was interviewed he said that since their move in 2018, the had lost touch. They hadn't spoken with the girls etc...

It seems like there had been something that adversely impacted their relationship as a family. Possibly out of sight, out of mind?

AM also said he called and left voicemails over the years with BM (??) and never heard back.

Lastly, AM said they thought the girls hadn't reached because they were concerned their numbers were blocked. They found out that wasn't the case. Why would they think that?

What i found interesting about that was AM saying that he left voicemails and never heard back from barry over the years but what about SM? I found it a bit strange that he said he didn't hear back from barry rather then " i didn't hear back from them" or from barry and Susanne, just seemed a little odd to me like was barry in charge of the phone or something?
 
  • #67
What i found interesting about that was AM saying that he left voicemails and never heard back from barry over the years but what about SM? I found it a bit strange that he said he didn't hear back from barry rather then " i didn't hear back from them" or from barry and Susanne, just seemed a little odd to me like was barry in charge of the phone or something?
Not a little odd, very odd. It seems to me that BM didn't want any of SM's family to be in touch with her.
Taking out the landline as soon as they moved there?
It'll all come out.
 
  • #68
What i found interesting about that was AM saying that he left voicemails and never heard back from barry over the years but what about SM? I found it a bit strange that he said he didn't hear back from barry rather then " i didn't hear back from them" or from barry and Susanne, just seemed a little odd to me like was barry in charge of the phone or something?

If the Morphew family wants to communicate from home, they are text dependant. Unlike their neighbor that went to the home to check for vehicles, and returned home and called BM, they have no landline. It follows that AM would phone BM as he'd have a greater chance of reaching BM within cellular coverage since he typically works away from home whereas SM did not. If BM was responsible for eliminating the landline at their home then in that sense he was controlling accessibility. MOO
 
  • #69
I am still hung up on the state of the home. If he did something to SM sometime mid day on Saturday and put her body in a cooler or otherwise contained it then went to Salida for the job and then said he last saw her in bed at 5 am on Sunday before he left for Denver, he had the whole night to set up his alibi.
It is mind boggling to me that he could have set up the house to look like no crime had taken place and that she had been alive all day on Saturday, eaten dinner, gotten ready for bed, gotten up, fixed breakfast and otherwise puttered around till the "bike ride" and not left something undone or left out that would have alerted LE to the fact she wasn't alive those hours.
Just too many details to consider. MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #70
I am still hung up on the state of the home. If he did something to SM sometime mid day on Saturday and put her body in a cooler or otherwise contained it then went to Salida for the job and then said he last saw her in bed at 5 am on Sunday before he left for Denver, he had the whole night to set up his alibi.
It is mind boggling to me that he could have set up the house to look like no crime had taken place and that she had been alive all day on Saturday, eaten dinner, gotten ready for bed, gotten up, fixed breakfast and otherwise puttered around till the "bike ride" and not left something undone or left out that would have alerted LE to the fact she wasn't alive those hours.
Just too many details to consider. MOO MOO MOO
I'm thinking cameras will show BM left the home somewhere around 5 a.m. That's why he's saying he last saw SM at that hour.
The big question is, did he take her with him when he left that morning or had he already taken care of things thru the night.
 
  • #71
If the Morphew family wants to communicate from home, they are text dependant. Unlike their neighbor that went to the home to check for vehicles, and returned home and called BM, they have no landline. It follows that AM would phone BM as he'd have a greater chance of reaching BM within cellular coverage since he typically works away from home whereas SM did not. If BM was responsible for eliminating the landline at their home then in that sense he was controlling accessibility. MOO
Suzanne wouldn't have had any insight into the business, if there was no landline. She never got a call from clients or business partners or employees, etc. If she had insight during their life in IN, it would have been a huge limitation since 2018. Actually she had nothing left, it seems: girls grown up and partly away already, husband working at least 6 days a week (if not 7 days), no business contacts, limited private contacts, .... nothing but a giant home to wait in for nothing to happen, only maybe vacation sometimes. MOO
 
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  • #72
I am still hung up on the state of the home. If he did something to SM sometime mid day on Saturday and put her body in a cooler or otherwise contained it then went to Salida for the job and then said he last saw her in bed at 5 am on Sunday before he left for Denver, he had the whole night to set up his alibi.
It is mind boggling to me that he could have set up the house to look like no crime had taken place and that she had been alive all day on Saturday, eaten dinner, gotten ready for bed, gotten up, fixed breakfast and otherwise puttered around till the "bike ride"and not left something undone or left out that would have alerted LE to the fact she wasn't alive those hours.
Just too many details to consider. MOO MOO MOO

With the house I think 'all' he had to do was clean up the alleged crime scene. There wouldn't necessarily have to be any evidence that she had been alive that day and eaten dinner etc...
 
  • #73
With the house I think 'all' he had to do was clean up the alleged crime scene. There wouldn't necessarily have to be any evidence that she had been alive that day and eaten dinner etc...
You maybe right. In case missing ClaudiaL/UK, it didn't help for 11 years, that used dishes were found in the sink. Nobody seems to know, whether she disappeared on an evening from her home or the following morning on her way to work.
 
  • #74
If, on Saturday she realized her life was in danger and she ran out of the house and was attacked outside the house so there was no crime scene inside to clean up then the house would have to be staged to support his alibi. He said he last saw her at 5 am the next day in bed.
The house would have to show signs that she had been there overnight and the next day until the "bike ride"
The details to do that kind of accurate staging to be convincing are huge. Was her toothbrush damp, was the bar of soap wet, was the bath mat damp? Was there evidence of dinner, breakfast and lunch having been eaten? Had she put a load of laundry in
There are so many minute details that LE could look for to determine that she had been there overnight. I wonder if they did.
 
  • #75
Men who kill their partners have different profiles to other killers. Men who kill their intimate partners have a markedly different profile to men who kill outside relationships, according to studies from several European countries. They tend to have better jobs and enjoy a higher standard of living than other perpetrators, and often have no criminal background. One study found that men who killed their partners were better educated than other homicide perpetrators and had fewer gaps in their employment history. Researchers have frequently identified the causes of such killings as jealousy, possessiveness, fear of abandonment, and mental illness. Gender disparities depend on age and the overall homicide rate - Global Study of Homicide 2019.

If BM is the one who has disappeared Suzanne the 2nd bolded sentence makes so much sense to me - particularly if Suzanne had made some life-altering decisions for herself, decisions that no longer involved BM.
 
  • #76
With the house I think 'all' he had to do was clean up the alleged crime scene. There wouldn't necessarily have to be any evidence that she had been alive that day and eaten dinner etc...

I am sure there is something BM would have missed. Did she,after being ill , take medication ,were there doses still in the pack that should have been taken?
Was there anything usual about clothes which had recently been laundered? Were there clothes of his in the laundry basket but none of hers?
 
  • #77
If, on Saturday she realized her life was in danger and she ran out of the house and was attacked outside the house so there was no crime scene inside to clean up then the house would have to be staged to support his alibi. He said he last saw her at 5 am the next day in bed.
The house would have to show signs that she had been there overnight and the next day until the "bike ride"
The details to do that kind of accurate staging to be convincing are huge. Was her toothbrush damp, was the bar of soap wet, was the bath mat damp? Was there evidence of dinner, breakfast and lunch having been eaten? Had she put a load of laundry in
There are so many minute details that LE could look for to determine that she had been there overnight. I wonder if they did.

Great minds!I got interrupted when writing my post,then after posting it,read your thoughts, which were exactly the same as mine.
 
  • #78
What i found interesting about that was AM saying that he left voicemails and never heard back from barry over the years but what about SM? I found it a bit strange that he said he didn't hear back from barry rather then " i didn't hear back from them" or from barry and Susanne, just seemed a little odd to me like was barry in charge of the phone or something?
yes based on this it sounds like BM was the
"gatekeeper" for the family. He decided who
talked to who, who got through. Could he have had such rigid rules to control his family ?

I'm still stunned that the landline was removed. Did he follow up by checking SM's
mobile phone because everything on it was a record
of incoming and outgoing calls??

His level of control regarding his wife was over the top, if this was the case. Did she have no say in these decisions?

IMO there seems to be a veil of secrecy pervading
their family. Was BM projecting his distrust of others since he himself was not trustworthy?

Sometimes when one partner is not honest or
faithful they project those behaviors on the other partner even if other partner is innocent.

It's a sick method of keeping the troops in line.
When all the details come out, I think we'll see
a level of patriarchal control that poor SM had to live under. It may be frightening.

All moo.
 
  • #79
Can't sleep :( .... Interesting study...

Some highlights:

The relationship of narcissism with tendency to react with anger and hostility: The roles of neuroticism and emotion regulation ability

- The results indicated that vulnerable narcissism was associated with a higher tendency toward anger and hostility.

- Vulnerable narcissism is rooted in a brittle sense of self, associated with low self-esteem and reflects defensiveness and insecurity. It involves feelings of inadequacy, incompetence, and negative affect.

- Further supported that the narcissistic rage concept ( explosive mix of anger and hostility), which suggests that among the two forms of narcissism, only the vulnerable one is related to chronic anger, distrust, and hostility, which constitute the core aspects of narcissistic rage.

- Vulnerable narcissists were highly neurotic (tendency toward anxiety, depression, self-doubt, and other negative feelings) and grandiose narcissists were relatively emotionally stable.

- It is possible that vulnerable narcissists are more sensitive to stimuli that evoke negative emotions, more reactive to stressors, and less efficient at coping with stress. Thus, overwhelmed by negative affect, vulnerable narcissists may be prone to experiencing increased levels of frustration, anger, dejection, and negative evaluations of self and others (hostility) and shame.

Source: The relationship of narcissism with tendency to react with anger and hostility: The roles of neuroticism and emotion regulation ability
 
  • #80
I wonder if LE has any video of BM driving towards where the bike was found.
 
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