Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #34

[jakat]

Maybe so that if there were subsequent alterations to the area, it could be raked out and the employee who originally raked it could say it looked the same as when she left? MOO

There are two videos on the media page, one is a closeup of the beach area with the rocks pushed to the side, and the other is of the beach finished. They're both in the media/timeline thread. Just saw them this morning. I'm using my phone so I can't link it, but the one of the finished beach is on page 6, May 23rd when oviedo posted it. It's from Rick Sallinger, Raw video or something like that. The other one I'm trying to find now, but that's where I saw both of them. It's a very small beach, not much sand.

I wonder if BM finished it and if he had help.

 

[mom2chloe]

I’m concerned about the sand at the Salida job site. Sand is extremely heavy and could easily be used to weigh down a body in a cooler or other container. Maybe he used the bobcat to fill his truck with sand at 11:30 pm? IMO

 

[MassGuy]

I really don't want it to be true - and it likely is not - but he is so smug about her not being found IMO - that I have to consider it as a possibility. It's what we would know, he's been around it for both landscaping work and firefighting - so it's one of my personal possibilities - the worst of course. And if something was interfering with his normal brain function whether fear, or Adrenalin, whatever and he's not thinking clearly - he may have not made the best decisions over that two day period.
JMO

This man knows the outdoors, and knows how to operate earth moving equipment. If he buried her deep in a remote location, then he could be confident that she would never be found.

 

[UnderWhelmed405]

Her texting with her friend on Saturday morning about the up coming wedding really messes up the time line of when he may have killed her to where he put her body. All the activity at the Salida property that supports the possibility that he buried her around there or put her in the water off the beach there took place before 12:30. This is making me crazy !

I just wonder if we got fed or someone misinterpreted the said information and it was actually something more like Saturday, 12:30AM Eastern Time.

 

[Hair of the Dog]

I too have wondered whether Suzanne found out something which would have awful repercussions for him.
But why would he give Susanne time to discuss it with someone else?
Did he make her promise to say nothing and he would go and speak to the LE himself after the girls returned from holiday?

I think whatever "it" was, it was something personal versus criminal. MOO

 

[Skigh]

Is it just me ,but I think I have more questions in my mind after MB's interview than I did before it!

 

[marylamby]

Has it actually been confirmed that the person making the loud noises late at night at the riverside property was in fact, BM?

I don't think so. I know I heard either the neighbor say or was quoted saying that she saw both a man and a woman on the site. I guess it wasn't approved site as I tried to find it in the recording/press on the approved site.
I think she gave another interview - which we can't discuss.

I remember it so vividly as I was REALLY surprised that a woman would be there. This was way before I even knew a woman worked for BM and was thinking it had to be a co-conspirator/other woman who was involved.
I wasn't up on FB rumors that would've informed me that MG worked for him.

Then again, I could be completely mistaken but if not, it doesn't mean that BM was there at all.
When all of the info comes out, and I hope so much it does, it's going to be a doozie.

 

[Rosiebones]

I just wonder if we got fed or someone misinterpreted the said information and it was actually something more like Saturday, 12:30AM Eastern Time.

Where was the friend she was texting located? Do we know?

 

[MassGuy]

Where was the friend she was texting located? Do we know?

I can say with a great deal of confidence that she lives in Indiana.

 

[happyday]

I can’t tell you how much I dislike the wood chipper theory.

That sort of thing is incredibly rare on the whole, yet I’ve seen it brought up in countless cases now. Not once has it been true.

Barry had limited time, as he had a hell of a lot to accomplish in the hours following the murder. Not only that, but using a machine like that creates more evidence than it destroys.

That machine would have to be disappeared as well, as the forensic evidence inside would bury BM.

I agree it would create more evidence. Even if you wood chipped a body into a flowing river, there would still be pieces all over the place—rocks, banks, trees. So messy! And gross. Dogs would have a field day.

 

[DizzyB]

I just wonder if we got fed or someone misinterpreted the said information and it was actually something more like Saturday, 12:30AM Eastern Time.

Now that would explain a lot.

 

[Feistyomi]

These are my thoughts, need to get off my mind...we discussed victimology, many threads ago. My biggest memory has come back to slap me in the face...I hope you’ll just roll and scroll...others may offer insight.
One of my biggest takeaways, the lower the risk factor, the closer the interaction between victim and perp. We felt this to be significant in this case as SM had a low risk lifestyle. I totally agreed with this, yet I didn’t know how to factor in her solo bike rides.
To be clear, on this, I am not accusing JP, sleuthing, etc. I do feel we need to revisit briefly and reassess the risk level, and so on...
the reason this is bothering me... My youngest daughter... my family has been in the low low risk range until last weekend, that changed in a matter of hours.
She answered a desperate text in the early hours, from a desperate friend... short story, abusive situation, 2 month old baby, and grandmom...know many here can relate to this...we had planned shopping together, ( new home), so we carried on, police escort, for belongings, etc. while we shopped....weapon, threats, and so on, my daughter’s reassurance to me, “he’s dumb and lazy”...we here know the statistics, and examples...my daughter did nothing wrong or careless, and still? Baby certainly didn’t create situation....
I felt extremely fearful for my daughter, as well as myself, and the family.
How often do innocent people get sucked into someone else’s risk?
Relevance; we don’t know if BM had a habit of trying to help people, we don’t know any of this, we only have one verifiable incident, obviously, he was considered and ruled out by LE, SM certainly seems to have been the sort to reach out to people, are there others?

I continue to feel a certain “random” or more correctly, low interaction/ connection to SM. This is the type case, hardest to solve.
BM is just too easy, JMVHO.

I’m a bit distracted, and tbh, using this forum to keep mind occupied, but due to its very nature, WS is not the place to do this. I’ll be off and on forum, not productive...am not whimping out, I value everyone’s insight, just difficult now, and I promise to be back...

 

[Skigh]

I don't think so. I know I heard either the neighbor say or was quoted saying that she saw both a man and a woman on the site. I guess it wasn't approved site as I tried to find it in the recording/press on the approved site.
I think she gave another interview - which we can't discuss.

I remember it so vividly as I was REALLY surprised that a woman would be there. This was way before I even knew a woman worked for BM and was thinking it had to be a co-conspirator/other woman who was involved.
I wasn't up on FB rumors that would've informed me that MG worked for him.

Then again, I could be completely mistaken but if not, it doesn't mean that BM was there at all.
When all of the info comes out, and I hope so much it does, it's going to be a doozie.

I remember this and it must have been on here as I had not been searching anywhere else.

 

[Seattle1]

The technology is pretty amazing. It takes minutes to download a phone, and the software categorizes all the information (texts, locations, searches, etc).

The cool thing is that it’s also capable of recovering deleted information in many instances.

Yes --learned from the Watts case that CBI/FBI also have some sophisticated tools at their disposal to recover deleted information from phones during an investigation. You can trust that anything MG did to her phone (if anything) prior to turning it over to CBI will be detected!

 

[Rosiebones]

I can say with a great deal of confidence that she lives in Indiana.

So, would that put the texting between 10:30 am and 12:30 in Colorado, if that was the time quoted rather than mountain time. Right?

 

[marylamby]

This line of commentary frustrates me. If SM wanted a landline for her own personal safety or that of her daughters, to talk to her family more regularly, or for any other reason, she had every right and opportunity to get a landline herself. IMO

On a related note, I don't think we know the whole story about AM's difficulty reaching SM. We don't have any reason to believe she was permanently stuck at home. She could have easily returned his calls/voicemails on her cell phone when she was in town for some other purpose. AM also could have used social media to contact her, where it seems she was active and had working access right until she went missing. IMO

No offense and not picking on you katydid23, just jumping off your post which was one of several similar comments.

That's not necessarily true. We already heard from a family member, from an approved source, that BM called the shots.
If he were in control of the bills, just as he was in control of the IN to CO move, then it's quite possible that she did not have the authority to have cameras repaired (or reinstated with service) or take it upon herself to have the landline hooked up.

 

[Error505]

We don't know if these two mysterious guys were indeed TN and GD. We have a pretty good idea, but what if it's someone else entirely? How many nephews does BM have living out there? We don't know. Or cousins. Or a BIL.

I replied last night on LS’ FB post of the MG interview to the very question of who the mystery guys could be. LS “liked” my reply later. Maybe? Who knows MOO

 

[Topppps]

I can’t tell you how much I dislike the wood chipper theory.

That sort of thing is incredibly rare on the whole, yet I’ve seen it brought up in countless cases now. Not once has it been true.

Barry had limited time, as he had a hell of a lot to accomplish in the hours following the murder. Not only that, but using a machine like that creates more evidence than it destroys.

That machine would have to be disappeared as well, as the forensic evidence inside would bury BM.

It's almost as bad as kidnapped for sex trafficking theories. I wonder how the Woodchipper itself never was taken apart and examined for microscopic evidence with Helle Craft.

There is a case in Australia that used a woodchipper, but not the same way Richard used it. They staged the scene to appear that the victim fell into the woodchipper.

 

[Error505]

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[Lilypad13]

Could be due to Covid and not able to get bricks/products/etc.
Concrete was difficult for some of the construction jobs in my area. Plus the permit office was closed.

Yes that makes total sense but what doesn’t make sense is if it’s harder to get supplies due to Covid then why would BM order bricks & dirt on the day of the job? Wouldn’t he order his supplies, wait until he knew everything could be delivered and then schedule the job? While I do believe this was a job he needed to fix, he had waited a year already and I don’t think he planned it for Monday until after he needed an alibi. MOO