Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #35

[Ontario Mom]

Definitely. The fact that they are on the press release tells me that they’ve already begun. They are great at finding anomalies in terrain, which could prove very valuable here.

I don’t necessarily think it would be a bad look if Suzanne was found by an independent search. We’re talking about a vast and unforgiving search environment.

I suspect the ground penetrating radar device they used at the river front site, belonged to Necrosearch. I also hope, they're still involved and will be utilized further.

jmo

 

[Skigh]

BM bought a plot of land for building a new home for his mother. Afaik, the plot is near his own property. What, if he buried SM there? He would be able to controll everything and do the landscaping by himself, so noone would find remains suddenly one day.

I would imagine various search teams have looked over that land.

 

[MassGuy]

I'm wondering if he now realizes that disposal of the phone doesn't mean a whole lot - they probably have everything from it now just like they did with Kelsey's phone...up until KK burned it up in ID - IIRC

JMO

True. Her text messages can be obtained by contacting the people she texted.

Her Facebook, emails, and phone records can be obtained via subpoena.

They’ll know exactly when her phone was powered down, and at a bare minimum, have an idea if the phone was in the vicinity of the home when this happened.

If she had a Google account, she was logged in, and she had it set so her searches were saved, that could also prove telling.

No phone, no problem.

 

[TKG]

I wonder if that was the reason LE decided not to include volunteers in the search from that point on. They may have been suspicious about the found item being overlooked before.

To me it appears more suspicious if there are no prints on the items found. IMO if BM and SM's prints were found, that would be explainable as they both lived where the items were kept. It's the absence of prints that raises concern... JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

BM bought a plot of land for building a new home for his mother. Afaik, the plot is near his own property. What, if he buried SM there? He would be able to controll everything and do the landscaping by himself, so noone would find remains suddenly one day.

I've seen several mentions of this, but cannot recall where this info came from. Can you please provide the link where this was first mentioned?
TIA

 

[MassGuy]

I suspect the ground penetrating radar device they used at the river front site, belonged to Necrosearch. I also hope, they're still involved and will be utilized further.

jmo

I just did a Google search, and it looks like the FBI Evidence Response Team has this capability. Necrosearch is one of the pioneers of this sort of thing, but I don’t think they were needed at that point.

I imagine they were brought in some time later, and continue to be involved.

 

[MsBetsy]

I'm wondering if he now realizes that disposal of the phone doesn't mean a whole lot - they probably have everything from it now just like they did with Kelsey's phone...up until KK burned it up in ID - IIRC

JMO

Didn't AM or someone say Suzanne's phone last pinged at the house on Sunday? I'm guessing that would have been some time between midnight and 5:00 am, when it was powered down.

 

[Error505]

I actually buried a large dog in the mountain canyon five miles south of Deckers, Colorado (72 miles northeast of Monarch Pass, off the route to Denver). The dog was beloved by everyone, so we did it at night, after the young guests of the summer camp had gone to sleep. It took three of us almost six hours to get a thirty inch deep hole large enough to respectfully lay the deceased. The "soil" of The Colorado Rockies is primarily heavy gravel mixed with small boulders, overlaid with about four to eight inches of humus from decomposed leaves, twigs, pine needles or what-have-you. Shovels and picks bounce off. We finally were able to make some progress with a World War II surplus Army "mattock" tool that someone dug out of their automobile trunk. I was the strongest and had the most stamina, so I did most of the actual digging and the others would relieve me while I drank some water and walked off the muscle fatigue cramps. It was one of the most physically challenging events of my lifetime. I remember actually praying that I would finish by daylight. IMO

BBM Thats why I think he used his favorite “cat” (bobcat) to dispose of her. Otherwise, I wonder if he’s searched “abandoned mines” recently on google? MOO

 

[MassGuy]

How did you read the Sheriff's press release below? I took it as he's going to provide resources to support and assist AM's search effort. But it's AM's search and LE will be taking his lead on where he wants to search (set up a command post) but I don't get the impression they will be suggesting search sites based on any of their evidence. A crime scene team will be on standby in case evidence is found. IMO Your thoughts?

NEW: Sheriff John Spezze sent a press release at 9:47 p.m. Thursday night. This update comes after FOX21’s Lauren Scharf has asked multiple times about the upcoming search effort:

“As part of this investigation numerous searches were conducted however Suzanne has yet to be located.

Andrew Moorman, brother of Suzanne Morphew, is organizing an independent search in the area of Suzanne’s disappearance. This effort will begin on September 24th and continue for the next several days. Andrew will be leading several hundred volunteer searchers from various towns and states in his effort to find his sister.

The Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation want to support this effort. Although our team is unable to coordinate and lead this effort due to liability issues we want to support this effort in several different ways. We certainly appreciate this huge undertaking and want to offer support to facilitate their efforts.

We will be staffing our command post with liaison personnel to assist Moorman search members. Our SAR units will be on hand to assist with Moorman search team accountability and other search team coordination issues. Our crime scene team will be available to document and collect any evidence if found. We will have both Chaffee County and CBI case Agents on hand in this endeavor as well.

As with any major undertaking it takes many different resources to complete a task and we once again appreciate the Moorman Search effort and its many volunteers.”

“I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

So I read that this the same way, with the exception of law enforcement not providing general search locations.

One way or another, I don’t think law enforcement is going to waste this final opportunity to find Suzanne before the weather turns.

I don’t expect law enforcement to hand over evidence (EVI or cell phone data), but it would be idiotic to pass up an opportunity like this.

So I’m leaning towards LE not forcing Andy and his team to do this completely blind. Even if that means re-searching areas that have already been explored.

 

[Sportn]

Just curious about the protocol for a big search like the one AM is organizing. This search is probably going to cover a large area and I suppose the possibility exists to find not only SM but they could stumble on others as well. If remains are found how do they determine quickly who they belong to and does the search continue or is it suspended while they try to figure that out?

 

[Fireflize]

I actually buried a large dog in the mountain canyon five miles south of Deckers, Colorado (72 miles northeast of Monarch Pass, off the route to Denver). The dog was beloved by everyone, so we did it at night, after the young guests of the summer camp had gone to sleep. It took three of us almost six hours to get a thirty inch deep hole large enough to respectfully lay the deceased. The "soil" of The Colorado Rockies is primarily heavy gravel mixed with small boulders, overlaid with about four to eight inches of humus from decomposed leaves, twigs, pine needles or what-have-you. Shovels and picks bounce off. We finally were able to make some progress with a World War II surplus Army "mattock" tool that someone dug out of their automobile trunk. I was the strongest and had the most stamina, so I did most of the actual digging and the others would relieve me while I drank some water and walked off the muscle fatigue cramps. It was one of the most physically challenging events of my lifetime. I remember actually praying that I would finish by daylight. IMO

Thanks Dave. I would think that BM would know how hard it was to dig in this area too. Hence he used the bobcat. Moo

 

[TKG]

I've seen several mentions of this, but cannot recall where this info came from. Can you please provide the link where this was first mentioned?
TIA

Here is the assessor's page, not to be used in legal documents. It shows a sale date of 6-25-2020.

qPublic.net - Chaffee County, CO - Report: R368336100071

 

[Knox]

Ive been going back through some of the PE videos with AM about this case and I stumbled into one video part about the extra personal item that was found by LE near the highway I believe it was. This could tie in to how some of us felt the extra personal item may have been planted or it may have been a coincidence. JMO of course.

The rest is all JMO because it gets a little confusing. The link is at bottom for this.

I think the interesting part is where AM talks about his initial searching with a small group of men around the Colorado Trail which I think is the area near where the personal item was eventually found. It sounded like to me that these other men included BM and some of BM's friends and a nice neighbor that was helping them by letting them use his Airbnb as a staging area. The Airbnb is very close to BM's home.

This part in the video begins around
13:20 up to the end of that part which ends around 17:10. So 13:20-17:10.

The interesting part is that one of the guys that was with AM in their initial searching "got away from us" and they went all the way back to look for him and could not find him and by the time they got back to the home area, the guy was back at the house area. Where they had been searching was in the general area where the extra item from Suzanne was found after this point by LE from what I gathered.

And the interesting thing is both LE and AM's small search crew initially did not see anything, one guy then disappears from AM's crew and shows back up, and then at some point later, LE announces they find an extra item near where they had been searching.
Lets just say....Hmmmmmm

One other interesting part to me is the part that begins around 21:00.

LE (CBI) told AM in Indiana that BM has NOT been cooperating with them and he refused both a lie detector test and voice analysis test early on. So this may explain how LE at the very beginning made a strange comment about hoping he would continue to cooperate or something along those lines. At least according to CBI and AM, that level of cooperation had not gone well from the very beginning.

Lets just say....Hmmmmmm again.

Great post!!

The neighbor Andy named (Martin), has also appeared in the media once early on.

Here's the transcript where Andy tells how many were searching and how close they were to where the item was found.

well the next day we got up and we
14:20
drove up a lane next to the colorado
14:24
trail where the trailhead takes off up
14:25
in the mountains
14:27
and we followed it all the way down back
14:29
down to the house
14:31
and one of the guys we were spread out
14:34
on the trail
14:35
you know 25 30 yards on each side just
14:38
looking for any clues any evidence
14:40
one of the guys kind of got got away
14:44
from us
14:46
so martin and i the neighbor guy had to
14:48
turn around and walk
14:49
all the way back up the trail and then
14:52
we came back down a different way
14:55
to martin's house and sure enough the
14:57
guy we misplaced was already there
14:59
so we did a pretty thorough i feel like
15:02
through a search
15:03
of that whole creek and trail area
15:07
above the house there the lower trail
15:11
was shut down due to flooding and
15:12
erosion
15:14
okay so i have a question for you the
15:16
dynamics here help us understand
15:19
okay you guy you guys how many guys from
15:22
the family
15:23
concept comes together and does and
15:25
starts searching
15:26
about how many estimates there were six
15:29
of us i believe
15:30
okay and then the police are also uh
15:33
doing their thing right
15:34
they are they're mostly down in the
15:36
valley where the bicycle was found and
15:38
they asked us not to trample in that
15:40
area
15:41
they didn't want to confuse the dogs
15:42
with different scents
15:44
and didn't really want us if we stumbled
15:46
onto something to
15:48
to mess up a crime scene okay so
15:52
the and that's important to understand
15:53
right because you guys are doing
15:55
another section the police are doing uh
15:58
another area searching uh everybody's on
16:01
the same page
16:02
looking for suzanne right and allowing
16:05
us into areas that they had already
16:07
looked
16:08
at okay okay so
16:11
okay so then let's fast forward in terms
16:13
of
16:14
you do the searching for the day uh you
16:18
do you find any evidence of of
16:22
any anything not a thing um
16:25
when we came down off that colorado
16:27
trail the second time
16:30
uh i bet you we walked within that
16:32
second personal
16:33
item i bet you that wasn't 20 yards from
16:36
where i came down onto the highway
16:39
and i'm surprised that we missed that
16:41
but you have to realize this rough
16:42
terrain
16:44
and when you're walking down a 50
16:47
decline like that you've really got to
16:49
watch your footing it's almost stepping
16:51
rock to rock
16:53
and it was brush up to your knees
16:56
and it was it was rough walking you know
16:58
so we
16:59
we missed that

 

[Error505]

Just curious about the protocol for a big search like the one AM is organizing. This search is probably going to cover a large area and I suppose the possibility exists to find not only SM but they could stumble on others as well. If remains are found how do they determine quickly who they belong to and does the search continue or is it suspended while they try to figure that out?

Speaking from experience, I volunteered here locally for a Texas EquuSearch regarding a high school girl who disappeared. Anything we found was NOT TOUCHED, but called into staging headquarters, followed up by investigators. The search would continue regardless of what is found imho, looking for evidence, etc.

DNA is probably the quickest & most proven way to determine who the remains belong to.

 

[MsBetsy]

To me it appears more suspicious if there are no prints on the items found. IMO if BM and SM's prints were found, that would be explainable as they both lived where the items were kept. It's the absence of prints that raises concern... JMO

True, but just the fact that the item wasn't seen the first time they searched might raise suspicion, whether there were prints on it or not. If it was an article of clothing, it may have been harder to find any prints, but they still could have checked for DNA.

 

[Fireflize]

Great post!!

The neighbor Andy named (Martin), has also appeared in the media once early on.

Here's the transcript where Andy tells how many were searching and how close they were to where the item was found.

well the next day we got up and we
14:20
drove up a lane next to the colorado
14:24
trail where the trailhead takes off up
14:25
in the mountains
14:27
and we followed it all the way down back
14:29
down to the house
14:31
and one of the guys we were spread out
14:34
on the trail
14:35
you know 25 30 yards on each side just
14:38
looking for any clues any evidence
14:40
one of the guys kind of got got away
14:44
from us
14:46
so martin and i the neighbor guy had to
14:48
turn around and walk
14:49
all the way back up the trail and then
14:52
we came back down a different way
14:55
to martin's house and sure enough the
14:57
guy we misplaced was already there
14:59
so we did a pretty thorough i feel like
15:02
through a search
15:03
of that whole creek and trail area
15:07
above the house there the lower trail
15:11
was shut down due to flooding and
15:12
erosion
15:14
okay so i have a question for you the
15:16
dynamics here help us understand
15:19
okay you guy you guys how many guys from
15:22
the family
15:23
concept comes together and does and
15:25
starts searching
15:26
about how many estimates there were six
15:29
of us i believe
15:30
okay and then the police are also uh
15:33
doing their thing right
15:34
they are they're mostly down in the
15:36
valley where the bicycle was found and
15:38
they asked us not to trample in that
15:40
area
15:41
they didn't want to confuse the dogs
15:42
with different scents
15:44
and didn't really want us if we stumbled
15:46
onto something to
15:48
to mess up a crime scene okay so
15:52
the and that's important to understand
15:53
right because you guys are doing
15:55
another section the police are doing uh
15:58
another area searching uh everybody's on
16:01
the same page
16:02
looking for suzanne right and allowing
16:05
us into areas that they had already
16:07
looked
16:08
at okay okay so
16:11
okay so then let's fast forward in terms
16:13
of
16:14
you do the searching for the day uh you
16:18
do you find any evidence of of
16:22
any anything not a thing um
16:25
when we came down off that colorado
16:27
trail the second time
16:30
uh i bet you we walked within that
16:32
second personal
16:33
item i bet you that wasn't 20 yards from
16:36
where i came down onto the highway
16:39
and i'm surprised that we missed that
16:41
but you have to realize this rough
16:42
terrain
16:44
and when you're walking down a 50
16:47
decline like that you've really got to
16:49
watch your footing it's almost stepping
16:51
rock to rock
16:53
and it was brush up to your knees
16:56
and it was it was rough walking you know
16:58
so we
16:59
we missed that

Thanks Knox! Andy missed the item, but so did LE. LE let them search this area that they had already searched. If the item was there....and it could have been.
Moo
Can anyone remember hearing that one of the items found was her helmet?

 

[DizzyB]

I actually buried a large dog in the mountain canyon five miles south of Deckers, Colorado (72 miles northeast of Monarch Pass, off the route to Denver). The dog was beloved by everyone, so we did it at night, after the young guests of the summer camp had gone to sleep. It took three of us almost six hours to get a thirty inch deep hole large enough to respectfully lay the deceased. The "soil" of The Colorado Rockies is primarily heavy gravel mixed with small boulders, overlaid with about four to eight inches of humus from decomposed leaves, twigs, pine needles or what-have-you. Shovels and picks bounce off. We finally were able to make some progress with a World War II surplus Army "mattock" tool that someone dug out of their automobile trunk. I was the strongest and had the most stamina, so I did most of the actual digging and the others would relieve me while I drank some water and walked off the muscle fatigue cramps. It was one of the most physically challenging events of my lifetime. I remember actually praying that I would finish by daylight. IMO

Can you verify your whereabouts on May 8, 9, and 10 of this year?

 

[MassGuy]

Thanks Knox! Andy missed the item, but so did LE. LE let them search this area that they had already searched. If the item was there....and it could have been.
Moo
Can anyone remember hearing that one of the items found was her helmet?

Because of that note Barry allegedly left which mentioned the helmet, I’d put money on that being the item that was recovered.

As we all know, helmets just fly off when one is attacked by a mountain lion.

Kidnappers also do this, just because...

 

[kkdj]

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[citygirl]

I just did a Google search, and it looks like the FBI Evidence Response Team has this capability. Necrosearch is one of the pioneers of this sort of thing, but I don’t think they were needed at that point.

I imagine they were brought in some time later, and continue to be involved.

This gives me hope that the search could be fruitful.
Often times we hear of "help" that tends to just be hype and bombs out.

After watching her brother last evening, he seemed exhausted and sad and, as all of you, I hope he is successful.
He's killing himself to find his little sister.
MOO.