Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

[pseudo_hum]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

@BM, when you last saw Suzanne sleeping Sunday morning at 5 am, was she breathing?

 

[LietKynes]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

bbm
Good post.

• Damage to the house (walls, floors, broken items) that revealed a chaotic day with no bike ride ever intended ?

I know that some think there may not have been evidence of a fight, but LE did search the house twice and it appeared that they removed some items.

• What was the second house search prompted by ?
• What were LE looking for under the concrete foundation ?

I know that's more than one piece of factual info., sorry.

 

[Fireflize]

Isn't that chilling ?
My god I think LE knew she was dead in a few days if not that evening !

Also my .02 is that they found evidence in the house search, in the form of excessive blood or other dna .
But I think LE want to find her body.
As AM said, '...fill the envelope before sealing it'.

Bbm.
ITA.
I have a notion that the neighbor who checked for her bike, also checked inside the home. When she called 911, she reported Suzanne missing and the strong smell of bleach. LE would have recognize a cleanup immediately.

The house had a strong smell of bleach, so a big cleanup, a lot of blood. We know that bleach doesn't destroy dna, so where ever they found bleach, they found dna.
Moo of course.

 

[DizzyB]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

I want the full story on exactly how the neighbor ended up calling 911. Who called her? How many phone calls? Did she go inside the house? What exactly did Barry say? Did she feel forced into calling the authorities? Did she think something else was up?

 

[Murphy1950]

Isn't that chilling ?
My god I think LE knew she was dead in a few days if not that evening !

Also my .02 is that they found evidence in the house search, in the form of excessive blood or other dna .
But I think LE want to find her body.
As AM said, '...fill the envelope before sealing it'.

Yes...but it was days before a search of the house as far as we know, but something resonated in the first few hours...I'm thinking a welfare check looking for Suzanne in the house before the search for the bike (it only makes sense) , the obvious smell of bleach/chlorine, ( LE knows what that's all about) possibly coupled with a call from her distressed friend earlier in the day...capped off by a staged bike.

ETA: We’ve all heard how the CCSO/CBI or whoever reacted to the searcher who freaked out over the handling of the bike, I have always thought that searcher to be GD. At first, I thought LE was out of line but upon reflection, they were probably incredulous thinking hey mister , we have an injured person in the vicinity…why should/would they be thinking of the bike as possible evidence? So many alarm bells

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

That’s such a great question.
More than anything, I’d like to know the timeline from May 8-May 10.

 

[10ofRods]

I want the full story on exactly how the neighbor ended up calling 911. Who called her? How many phone calls? Did she go inside the house? What exactly did Barry say? Did she feel forced into calling the authorities? Did she think something else was up?

It's been covered many times in these threads - and is in the early media threads. From memory, what happens is that the daughters call BM, who calls the neighbor. Neighbors goes to check and gets back to BM. BM tells her to call 911 so she does.

We now know that the neighbor probably went into the house. We don't know how many phone calls (no way of knowing that). We do not know exactly what BM said, except for the neighbor's early account (which is lacking in detail).

She never mentions feeling "forced" (I'm not sure how anyone could know, except her and she hasn't used those words). She was being neighborly.

She has never mentioned that she thought "something else was up."

We don't know when the calls from the daughters started. We know that by around 6 pm, LE was called and arrive on scene well before Barry, and discover the bike (and BM, meantime, has asked a friend of his to go over and see what's up). Barry arrives sometime after 9 pm.

The police do not let him back in the house. If the neighbor was able to get into the house, as I believe, she may well have offered access to LE who, after all, have been called for a welfare check.

Police impound his truck, etc. Then about 2 weeks later, he's allowed back into the house (and gets his truck back?)

 

[Hair of the Dog]

I want the full story on exactly how the neighbor ended up calling 911. Who called her? How many phone calls? Did she go inside the house? What exactly did Barry say? Did she feel forced into calling the authorities? Did she think something else was up?

According to Andy (interview with PE) the following paraphrased by me was related to him by BM when Andy arrived in Salida Monday evening, 5/11.

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 , MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

7:54 texts to SM went unanswered, BM called left VM, no response. He thinks either the girls or BM called the neighbor to check on house. She called BM from her home, BM sent her back to the house to check the garage

8:21 Both Land Rovers in garage, must be on a bike ride

8:42 Trevor or one of the kids showed up and they called 911

 

[Seni]

It's been covered many times in these threads - and is in the early media threads. From memory, what happens is that the daughters call BM, who calls the neighbor. Neighbors goes to check and gets back to BM. BM tells her to call 911 so she does.

We now know that the neighbor probably went into the house. We don't know how many phone calls (no way of knowing that). We do not know exactly what BM said, except for the neighbor's early account (which is lacking in detail).

She never mentions feeling "forced" (I'm not sure how anyone could know, except her and she hasn't used those words). She was being neighborly.

She has never mentioned that she thought "something else was up."

We don't know when the calls from the daughters started. We know that by around 6 pm, LE was called and arrive on scene well before Barry, and discover the bike (and BM, meantime, has asked a friend of his to go over and see what's up). Barry arrives sometime after 9 pm.

The police do not let him back in the house. If the neighbor was able to get into the house, as I believe, she may well have offered access to LE who, after all, have been called for a welfare check.

Police impound his truck, etc. Then about 2 weeks later, he's allowed back into the house (and gets his truck back?)

Respectfully bolded. Please check accuracy of statement against time- line based upon MSM.

 

[skyvoyager]

I think they quickly realized the bike was not operational (as in it needed a repair) so there could not have been a bike ride.

According to AM, the bike was not damaged..... bike story still bogus IMO.

Suzanne Morphew’s brother calls for ‘army search’ in Colorado next month | FOX21 News Colorado

Suzanne’s brother clarified he did not see the recovered bike himself, but said investigators talked to him about what they had found.

“They told me at least the wheels weren’t bent. Nothing was tore up on the bike… and there was no signs of a struggle. And from that moment on – I thought for sure that this was foul play,” he said.

 

[10ofRods]

According to AM, the bike was not damaged..... bike story still bogus IMO.

Suzanne Morphew’s brother calls for ‘army search’ in Colorado next month | FOX21 News Colorado

Suzanne’s brother clarified he did not see the recovered bike himself, but said investigators talked to him about what they had found.

“They told me at least the wheels weren’t bent. Nothing was tore up on the bike… and there was no signs of a struggle. And from that moment on – I thought for sure that this was foul play,” he said.

What part of the bike story is bogus? Was there actually no bike? Or the bike was clearly ridden by Suzanne into a gully?

What do you mean? Just the part about it needing repair? I thought that what LE told AM was aimed at telling him that her bike wasn't struck by a car...but maybe that's just me.

If it was actually non-functional, I doubt LE would tell anyone that, at this point.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Which would mean IF the Saturday 4 pm sandwich shop sighting is true, she either didn’t take her phone with her, or she returned to the house after.

jmo

Let us say: SM's phoned returned to the home at least.

 

[JLZ]

According to AM, the bike was not damaged..... bike story still bogus IMO.

Suzanne Morphew’s brother calls for ‘army search’ in Colorado next month | FOX21 News Colorado

Suzanne’s brother clarified he did not see the recovered bike himself, but said investigators talked to him about what they had found.

“They told me at least the wheels weren’t bent. Nothing was tore up on the bike… and there was no signs of a struggle. And from that moment on – I thought for sure that this was foul play,” he said.

My guess is the tyres were flat. Not punctured, just not pumped as they would have been if someone had recently taken it out for a ride.

I've been following this for a few months but I haven't read all the threads. Hi.

 

[Hatch]

Was there hard evidence found in the house to indicate she was killed?

 

[marylamby]

According to AM, the bike was not damaged..... bike story still bogus IMO.

Suzanne Morphew’s brother calls for ‘army search’ in Colorado next month | FOX21 News Colorado

Suzanne’s brother clarified he did not see the recovered bike himself, but said investigators talked to him about what they had found.

“They told me at least the wheels weren’t bent. Nothing was tore up on the bike… and there was no signs of a struggle. And from that moment on – I thought for sure that this was foul play,” he said.

And no scent picked up by the dogs -human or feline.

 

[Rolo]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

I’m stuck between two:

1). Who was the last verified person to see/speak to Suzanne and when (not counting Barry)?

2). What evidence did they find in the house?

 

[NWLady]

If we had the opportunity to be given only one piece of factual information regarding any aspect of this case what would you prefer it to be?

I'd want to know exactly the piece of information that indicated to LE the 'missing during a bike ride' story was bogus (if, indeed, it is bogus).

What's yours?

I want to know when the last time SM was seen alive by somebody other than BM.

 

[Topppps]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but “no sign of a struggle” does not necessarily equate to no evidence of a crime.

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

 

[Trackergd]

What would I want to know? What evidence was found during the searches by LE and did those searches include the entire property around the home (to include nearby ATV trails and utility right-of-ways).

MOO A plan to commit a homicide cannot be overly complex and/or depend on the actions of others not involved as it would take only one small error in timing or an un-involved individual suddenly changing their schedule to cause the entire plan to fall apart. To me, the most complex part of a plan would be to ensure that no family members or children could accidently witness the act and elimination of evidence. That would also include a plan to eliminate the chances of cell phone pings. Most folks are aware of the more common types of forensic evidence and modern evidence gathering technology. MOO

 

[DizzyB]

It's been covered many times in these threads - and is in the early media threads. From memory, what happens is that the daughters call BM, who calls the neighbor. Neighbors goes to check and gets back to BM. BM tells her to call 911 so she does.

We now know that the neighbor probably went into the house. We don't know how many phone calls (no way of knowing that). We do not know exactly what BM said, except for the neighbor's early account (which is lacking in detail).

She never mentions feeling "forced" (I'm not sure how anyone could know, except her and she hasn't used those words). She was being neighborly.

She has never mentioned that she thought "something else was up."

We don't know when the calls from the daughters started. We know that by around 6 pm, LE was called and arrive on scene well before Barry, and discover the bike (and BM, meantime, has asked a friend of his to go over and see what's up). Barry arrives sometime after 9 pm.

The police do not let him back in the house. If the neighbor was able to get into the house, as I believe, she may well have offered access to LE who, after all, have been called for a welfare check.

Police impound his truck, etc. Then about 2 weeks later, he's allowed back into the house (and gets his truck back?)

My issue, and my reason for wanting more about the neighbor’s account, is the stuff that’s missing. There was a snippet of an interview with her, but the cops quickly went to something nefarious upon their arrival. If it had to do with the bike, okay. But did the neighbor say, like Chris Watts’ neighbor said, something isn’t right with that guy? Did the neighbor say she smelled bleach? Did the neighbor see something in the house? Did the neighbor find it odd that Barry was calling her instead of getting one of his first responder buddies to go over? Did the girls call their Dad first, and he didn’t pick up? Was Barry very specific in what she should be looking for, to the point that it sounded like he knew something? Did she see or hear Barry’s truck early that morning or late the night before? Had she ever been called to check up on Suzanne before? If GD was so close by, why not him? Was he only used by Barry for the bike discovery?