Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

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DBM
 
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It’s a problem with no solution, at least as far as BM is concerned.

That phone had to be dead before he left the house, as he had to take it with him to dispose of it.

In BM’s bike ride narrative, he’d claim that the phone is missing because Suzanne had it with her. The issue is her phone had to have gone dark many hours before. So she’d have to have gone on a bike ride with a phone that was turned off, and never powered on since BM “last saw her at 5am.”

What’s it called when you checkmate yourself?
I’ve thought all along that the phone was one of his biggest mistakes!
 
  • #163
BBM:

Ha!

I don't know what they call it in chess, on account of chess is dumb.
But in hockey, when a player puts the puck in his own net, it's referred to as an "own goal."

We've seen numerous moronic killers (Frazee, Stauch, et al.) who've managed to rack up a sizable lead for their opponents before they even took to the court(room).

This case will be no exception.

JMO.
BBM:

From your lips to God's ears GK. Lets hope that another stellar example of "moronocity" will lead to an arrest in the not-so-distant future!!
 
  • #164
It’s a problem with no solution, at least as far as BM is concerned.

That phone had to be dead before he left the house, as he had to take it with him to dispose of it.

In BM’s bike ride narrative, he’d claim that the phone is missing because Suzanne had it with her. The issue is her phone had to have gone dark many hours before. So she’d have to have gone on a bike ride with a phone that was turned off, and never powered on since BM “last saw her at 5am.”

What’s it called when you checkmate yourself?
Toast?
 
  • #165
I’ve thought all along that the phone was one of his biggest mistakes!

He just didn’t have a play there.

If he takes her phone with him and communicates with it, then that’s called “pulling a Frazee.” It means a guaranteed arrest and conviction.

If he leaves it at home, that means law enforcement finds something he doesn’t want them to find. I’m sure there are things on there that he wanted gone.

If he turns it off and disposed of it (what it looks like he did), then you’re left with a massive dark period that points law enforcement right to you.

We’d have to believe that Suzanne never looked at her phone that day, and took it on a bike ride when it was powered down.

And it’s Mother’s Day to boot!

Improbable. Inexplicable. Incriminating.
 
  • #166
Ranked in terms of relevance in this case going forward.

1) SM’s texting friend
2) MG
3) LS
4) AM
5) PE guys

JMO
 
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Lamlawindy: “I believe that CCSO does not at present have probable cause to believe that anybody committed a crime.”

MassGuy: “They just can’t yet prove the crime was murder, and Barry is responsible.”

Topppps: “I don't believe LE has the goods.”

A common theme shared by some of the most informed sleuthers.

JMO
BBM:

I'll go ahead and take issue with each of those statements.

Because I disagree with all of them.

First, there is ample evidence that CCSO has probable cause to believe that a crime was committed.
The proof of that is the fact that they've executed multiple search warrants, including 2 separate search warrants for the home and one for a property that BM worked at.

You don't get a judge to sign off on search warrants unless there's probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

So there's that.

Secondly, I don't even know what the poster was thinking when he claimed that, "They just can't prove yet the crime was murder, and Barry is responsible."

LE might very well have proof that SM was murdered, and that BM is responsible.
It may not be for lack of evidence that we haven't yet seen an arrest.
It may be for lack of experience…specifically, prosecutorial experience.

<modsnip: Do not politicize.>

Finally, not one of us here knows what LE knows.

We're all completely in the dark as to what evidence they've gathered up to this point in their investigation.

So, whether we believe they do have "the goods" on the killer or that they lack "the goods" on the killer, is a completely moot point.

Because we don't know what we don't know.

JMO.
 
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Oddly enough, BM has never mentioned her phone. Really he's never mentioned any critical information which would be helpful in solving Suzanne's disappearance.

Barry has no legal moves left in his game of chess, he's at a stalemate - with LE, Suzanne's family, and the majority of folks like us that have followed this case. IMO~
I agree, Barry’s circumstance is pathetic and stressful. His only play is to do nothing and hope that law enforcement does not gather enough evidence to arrest him. To most of us, this situation would be anxiety producing to the max. Since LE has not released any public information, he has no clue what evidence they do or do not have on him.

Perhaps it is not that bothersome to Barry as he may not possess these neurotypical sentiments.

IMO
 
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It’s a problem with no solution, at least as far as BM is concerned.

That phone had to be dead before he left the house, as he had to take it with him to dispose of it.

In BM’s bike ride narrative, he’d claim that the phone is missing because Suzanne had it with her. The issue is her phone had to have gone dark many hours before. So she’d have to have gone on a bike ride with a phone that was turned off, and never powered on since BM “last saw her at 5am.”

What’s it called when you checkmate yourself?

Zugzwang. It's not quite checkmating yourself but basically it's being forced to make a move that no matter what you do, it's going to put you in a worse position or make you lose the game.

Zugzwang - Wikipedia

The Germans always have such great words for complex concepts. My other favorite word of course is schadenfreude, which is deriving pleasure from watching someone else's misfortune. BM has given me lots of that every time he opens his mouth, and I hope to experience much more schadenfreude when BM is finally arrested.

And that concludes our vocabulary lesson of the day, BM edition.
 
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I agree, Barry’s circumstance is pathetic and stressful. His only play is to do nothing and hope that law enforcement does not gather enough evidence to arrest him. To most of us, this situation would be anxiety producing to the max. Since LE has not released any public information, he has no clue what evidence they do or do not have on him.

Perhaps it is not that bothersome to Barry as he may not possess these neurotypical sentiments.

IMO
BBM:

I think we've seen definite indicators that BM has become increasingly anxious.
Back on August 12th, I posted this about the flyer distribution and SM's family talking to both the PE guys and LS/MSM at the 3-month mark of her disappearance:

"LE is hitting his pressure points, and as a result, the person who killed SM is likely experiencing a ton of pressure, both external and internal, as a result of everything that's unfolded this past week….
LE has all but officially named him a suspect at this point.
They aren't coming right out and saying it, though, which is also brilliant strategy.
The more ambiguous their words and actions are, the more anxiety SM's killer will feel.
Anxiety is a hard emotion to just sit with…generally, anxiety produces a reaction.
Either a person talks, or a person acts. "


Since the time of that post, two things have happened:

1) BM has talked.

2) BM has acted.

Trust me: He's anxious.

With good reason.

JMO.
 
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@MassGuy

I would call it being hoisted by your own petard.
 
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BBM:

I think we've seen definite indicators that BM has become increasingly anxious.
Back on August 12th, I posted this about the flyer distribution and SM's family talking to both the PE guys and LS/MSM at the 3-month mark of her disappearance:

"LE is hitting his pressure points, and as a result, the person who killed SM is likely experiencing a ton of pressure, both external and internal, as a result of everything that's unfolded this past week….
LE has all but officially named him a suspect at this point.
They aren't coming right out and saying it, though, which is also brilliant strategy.
The more ambiguous their words and actions are, the more anxiety SM's killer will feel.
Anxiety is a hard emotion to just sit with…generally, anxiety produces a reaction.
Either a person talks, or a person acts. "


Since the time of that post, two things have happened:

BM has talked.

BM has taken action.

He's definitely anxious.

Deservedly so.

JMO.
In those interviews he’s come across as a complete jerk too. Everyone who has spoken out is some sort of criminal or “meth bead.”

He sounded angry and defiant, and used that time to bash his critics, defend himself, and didn’t bother to make an appeal for his missing wife.

He called the search a “publicity stunt,” and approached searchers with a gun.

Someone must have told him how bad a look that was, which is why he decided to allow people to check his property.

Of course he knew they’d find nothing.

He’s not only anxious, but appears to be unhinged. I hope that continues.
 
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I agree, Barry’s circumstance is pathetic and stressful. His only play is to do nothing and hope that law enforcement does not gather enough evidence to arrest him. To most of us, this situation would be anxiety producing to the max. Since LE has not released any public information, he has no clue what evidence they do or do not have on him.

Perhaps it is not that bothersome to Barry as he may not possess these neurotypical sentiments.

IMO
He seems to be able to convey anger when it relates to defending himself.

“I’ve heard the FBI lie and I know that they can legally do that in their investigations,” Barry said. “But it just pains me to know that they are doing this to me and my family.Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado

Barry is pretty angry in the interview with Lauren you can hear his voice shaking, so that neurotypical cylinder is firing ok.
 
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@Hoosierfan72, is your sense cold, preplanned or crime of passion/rage/fear?

Is it possible he's struggling with coming to terms with what he's done, never thinking he'd be capable?

And the dramatic cover up, a desperate measure to protect his hard-fought image of the Godly man?

This "thing" that has happened to him...

I'm guessing NO ONE dreamed (nightmared) he could do such a thing, perhaps including him????

JMO
I keep going back and forth a bit on this, so my cop-out answer to it is "pre-pondered, hastily planned".

Why I think it was pre-pondered:
a) body was obviously well hidden (either BM got really lucky or he had given this some thought - I lean toward the latter given how poor he's done thinking on his feet)
b) the girls were out of town for the weekend
c) BM's behavior was odd on Saturday morning, before she was killed (IMO - I know the timeline is a mess and some believe she was killed on Sat am or maybe even Friday night) - but I believe she was killed on Saturday evening (I just think the bulk of what we have points to Sat night)

Why I think it was hastily planned:
a) BM's alibi was pulled together at the last minute and was poorly executed
b) the bike staging/mountain lion story was terrible (as evidenced by LEs immediate dismissal of it), which points to sloppiness and not a lot of planning
c) the "too soon" comment - he wasn't ready with his story

So put those together, and I think BM had this thought at least swimming in his head for quite a while (and maybe had, for example, picked out a spot to dispose of a body while hunting, etc.) But something happened that weekend that pushed it into action (I lean toward something coming to light that BM wasn't ready for - whether it was SM pushing for a divorce, discovering a secret of BM, or pushing back against something financial BM was wanting to do). I do believe it will certainly meet the legal definition of pre-meditation.

I do think the guilt is eating away at him. I'm not sure we'll see a confession, but it wouldn't shock me to see his behavior become increasingly unhinged. JMO, MOO.
 
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He seems to be able to convey anger when it relates to defending himself.

“I’ve heard the FBI lie and I know that they can legally do that in their investigations,” Barry said. “But it just pains me to know that they are doing this to me and my family.Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado

Barry is pretty angry in the interview with Lauren you can hear his voice shaking, so that neurotypical cylinder is firing ok.
When Barry’s mask and facade are threatened, he becomes angry. Barry seems to be very concerned with how he appears to others. He requires: big house, expensive cars, big muscles, pretty and compliant wife, and luxurious vacations. He’s all about appearances and when someone chips away at that, he gets angry.
 
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Zugzwang. It's not quite checkmating yourself but basically it's being forced to make a move that no matter what you do, it's going to put you in a worse position or make you lose the game.

Zugzwang - Wikipedia

The Germans always have such great words for complex concepts. My other favorite word of course is schadenfreude, which is deriving pleasure from watching someone else's misfortune. BM has given me lots of that every time he opens his mouth, and I hope to experience much more schadenfreude when BM is finally arrested.

And that concludes our vocabulary lesson of the day, BM edition.

Respectfully bolded by me. What do you mean?
 
  • #177
I would like to know what information SMs friend was privy to that made her panic. She may hold the entire story in her hands. Relationships take time to fail and your best out of state friend would make an ideal therapist that you wouldn't have to face in person. Oh what secrets she may have told. LE may have the entire motive and timeline down pat. I assume putting a case together on digital information is so time consuming. I'm hoping that BMs maps from the last year or two were up in the cloud. That would make for some great leads as to where he's been. People are creatures of habit. moo
 
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In those interviews he’s come across as a complete jerk too. Everyone who has spoken out is some sort of criminal or “meth bead.”

He sounded angry and defiant, and used that time to bash his critics, defend himself, and didn’t bother to make an appeal for his missing wife.

He called the search a “publicity stunt,” and approached searchers with a gun.

Someone must have told him how bad a look that was, which is why he decided to allow people to check his property.

Of course he knew they’d find nothing.

He’s not only anxious, but appears to be unhinged. I hope that continues.

Unhinged is the most entertaining phase of all! Someday, hopefully in the near future, he'll be lying on the floor of an interview room crying for his mama and spilling his gut. Fun times for us.
 
  • #179
In BM’s bike ride narrative, he’d claim that the phone is missing because Suzanne had it with her. The issue is her phone had to have gone dark many hours before. So she’d have to have gone on a bike ride with a phone that was turned off, and never powered on since BM “last saw her at 5am.”
Respectfully Snipped

So this leaves only two scenario's: (1) The victim left the house on a bike ride with a phone that was turned of (and possibly tampered with to prevent tracing) and did not realize it. (2) The victim never left the house on the bike ride, so the phone never left the house to begin with, at least until it was rendered inoperative and unable to be traced.

The high probability that the bike and helmet were staged, lends support to scenario 2. Not something that would be easy to explain away.

Besides my wishing I could task an NRO KH-12 satellite for property searches, it would be fun to have the NSA try to trace the phone. How come all the cool toys belong to the kids inside the Washington beltway? I mean we all pay for them, so we should be able to sleuth with them...right? :D
 
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