Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

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  • #641
Dbm—
 
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I dont think he goes out of the way to look guilty, I think he just has a total lack of self awareness about his behavior, because to him its perfectly logical to do things like lie to your missing wives family about passing a polygraph or netflix/get some me time in while a 6 day search is going on for her. BM doesnt understand socially appropriate behavior nor does he care how he comes off because hes never given a second thought to anyone but himself
I agree with you. With Barry’s possible narcissistic traits along with his lack of empathy, he is unable to behave any other way. I am sure that if he did murder Suzanne, he felt completely justified in the act.

With the narcissists that I have known, they could justify nearly anything. Their pathological lies, wrapped up with their selfishness, lack of self awareness and total lack of empathy; anything that they view as being of benefit to them is justified in their mind.
 
  • #644
Now let's make a list of everything that he did that makes us think he is innocent.
1.
I'm drawing a complete blank. Go figure. :rolleyes::D
 
  • #645
Great post! Let's take it from the very beginning of the case....
1. BM's 27 second Facebook video
pleading for help in finding SM
2. Not talking to the media...BM said
It's too soon
3. No posters, flyers in search for. SM
4. Only speaking to media when it
was to defend himself
5. Not participating in the searches
for SM
6. Patrolling his property, armed
while others searched for SM
7. Filing for guardianship over SM
8. Financial moves...house up for sale
9. Saying that the search that AM
organized was a publicity stunt,
anybody credible as a witness were
jailbirds or methheads.
And there are so many more. Anyone else?

Add:

Buying a new truck
Buying land and acquiring permits for said land
Hunting trip
<modsnip>
Greeting searchers with a gun and cameras and a stern warning
Not speaking to Suzanne’s family
Not joining any organized searches nor attending the vigil
Not speaking to media or actively speaking out to garner attention for his wife
Not providing a reward with the assistance of LE and/or Crimestoppers
New dirt bike
Not ensuring security cameras were working, yet now there are cameras on the property

Just a few more....
 
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I agree with you. With Barry’s possible narcissistic traits along with his lack of empathy, he is unable to behave any other way. I am sure that if he did murder Suzanne, he felt completely justified in the act.

With the narcissists that I have known, they could justify nearly anything. Their pathological lies, wrapped up with their selfishness, lack of self awareness and total lack of empathy; anything that they view as being of benefit to them is justified in their mind.
When we pigeon hole criminals into categories as a way of explaining their behavior, are we not giving them an out? Saying that Barry is “unable to behave any other way” because he is a narcissist, makes him less responsible for his actions.
JMO
 
  • #648
When we pigeon hole criminals into categories as a way of explaining their behavior, are we not giving them an out? Saying that Barry is “unable to behave any other way” because he is a narcissist, makes him less responsible for his actions.
JMO
I never said he wasn’t responsible for his behavior.
 
  • #649
Let me put together a different timeline.

Perfect love affair
5 am, Mother's Day, BM leaves
For Broomfield
Where he finds himself without the right equipment
Requests MG to assemble a crew before he gets there
Naps, showers
Some time in the afternoon realizes daughters are running late
Connects with daughters/neighbor
Requests call to LE "just to be safe"
(If her bike is missing, wouldn't everybody be RELIEVED? That's why she's not home, she's biking! It's a stretch, no, to jump to "we better find her bike? Because... Cat.)
9pm get home
Take time to be upset with LE
Settle in at house to the rear of family home
Monday, things to do
Tuesday, search. Too soon for a statement, but the right time to leave a helpful list at Poncha Market

7 day mark, 26 second video
2 week mark, ask father in law to sign guardianship papers, "looks like she's not coming back"

Probably Cat. Or abduction. Probably someone known to her.

Oh, well. It happens.

Back to business.
Get temporary guardianship.
Sell Indiana home.
Buy Longhorn lot.
Achieve permanent guardianship.
Acquire condo in Poncha Springs.
Buy a new truck.
Buy a dirt bike.
List family home.
Guard property, make sure no volunteers breach perimeter.
Reverse stance overnight.
Keep a low profile. Avoid most media.

You see that when there's a missing person. Best just to move on. Must'a got herself in the river or lunched on. Or taken by someone known to her, who doesn't want my reward money. Guess mystery abductor can just keep her then?

I wonder what happened to Suzanne's things, when PP got boxed up.

The neighbor who had footage of CW loading up his truck, the day his pregnant wife and two little girls went missing told LE, "he's not acting right."

Gotta say it here, the primary agent, he's not acting right.

Sure, there's a range of normal but ...

My loved one's been missing two weeks so Imma just gonna close the door on that SAID NO INNOCENT PERSON EVER.

JMO
 
  • #650
The girls running late (if that's a fact and not fakeBnews).... looks like there's another problem with the time line. If Suzanne was home alone on Mother's Day.... and BM got everything set up in Broomsfield, so much so that his employees could "figure it out" from there, why didn't ya go home early ON MOTHER'S DAY, once you were all donsey? Waiting, waiting in Broomfield for....? To hold the door open at the hotel, for your crew? But no, because he was gone before they arrived 11am? Mid-afternoon? 6 pm? Surely, if he had no more work in Broomfield, he'd race home to make his wife happy... hiking, biking, a sammich....

This has got to be up there with the worst attempt at an alibi ever. Didn't need to be there, wasn't there for the entire span he claimed to be there, and didn't account for the chasm between what he's selling and what's believable.

Oh, Barry.

JMO
 
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Let me put together a different timeline.

Perfect love affair
5 am, Mother's Day, BM leaves
For Broomfield
Where he finds himself without the right equipment
Requests MG to assemble a crew before he gets there
Naps, showers
Some time in the afternoon realizes daughters are running late
Connects with daughters/neighbor
Requests call to LE "just to be safe"
(If her bike is missing, wouldn't everybody be RELIEVED? That's why she's not home, she's biking! It's a stretch, no, to jump to "we better find her bike? Because... Cat.)
9pm get home
Take time to be upset with LE
Settle in at house to the rear of family home
Monday, things to do
Tuesday, search. Too soon for a statement, but the right time to leave a helpful list at Poncha Market

7 day mark, 26 second video
2 week mark, ask father in law to sign guardianship papers, "looks like she's not coming back"

Probably Cat. Or abduction. Probably someone known to her.

Oh, well. It happens.

Back to business.
Get temporary guardianship.
Sell Indiana home.
Buy Longhorn lot.
Achieve permanent guardianship.
Acquire condo in Poncha Springs.
Buy a new truck.
Buy a dirt bike.
List family home.
Guard property, make sure no volunteers breach perimeter.
Reverse stance overnight.
Keep a low profile. Avoid most media.

You see that when there's a missing person. Best just to move on. Must'a got herself in the river or lunched on. Or taken by someone known to her, who doesn't want my reward money. Guess mystery abductor can just keep her then?

I wonder what happened to Suzanne's things, when PP got boxed up.

The neighbor who had footage of CW loading up his truck, the day his pregnant wife and two little girls went missing told LE, "he's not acting right."

Gotta say it here, the primary agent, he's not acting right.

Sure, there's a range of normal but ...

My loved one's been missing two weeks so Imma just gonna close the door on that SAID NO INNOCENT PERSON EVER.

JMO
bbm
Have been wondering the same here.

I'm guessing a dumpster for her clothing, shoes, purse, and knick-knacks (things like small cherished items :( ) ?

But of course he'd keep her wedding band and any valuable items, so he can re-sell them.
Did anything of Suzanne's turn up at a pawn shop and LE know about it, but are keeping quiet ?

The manner in which he assumed guardianship of Suzanne's assets leaves no doubt he'd dispose of anything deemed to not be worthy, and using Ebay or other web services to sell any of her valuables and most likely already has done this.
As he told her father (paraphrased) "...looks like Suzanne's not coming back...".
Imo.
 
  • #653
@10ofRods - you had replied to the post that included that headline, that is all. And as I believed you were referring to that article, I responded with my thoughts about the lying you mentioned, the lying which I believe is within the headline. Again, that is all. I feel the headline is misleading and poor journalism, a lie. I wanted that to be brought into conversation. This was that opportunity, nothing personal.

Gotcha!
 
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Where the heck is SM’s phone? It’s gotta be somewhere. Electronics don’t just disappear! Did they find it at that dig site early on? Maybe they don’t want to let him on to knowing they found evidence so they said they found nothing at the time but I feel they might have found something there and BM knows it. I feel like her phone is going to be a very important piece of evidence in all of this- not only through the cloud but the actual device. Jmo
 
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When we pigeon hole criminals into categories as a way of explaining their behavior, are we not giving them an out? Saying that Barry is “unable to behave any other way” because he is a narcissist, makes him less responsible for his actions.
JMO

I’m sorry they cannot behave any other way. But it’s not our problem. Did they kill someone? Rape someone? That’s against the law and they must be punished. Prison is a great place to learn behavior modification skills. If they get out and commit another crime, ok. More prison time. With more onerous conditions. They’ll get it eventually, or they’ll die locked up away from the world so they don’t commit more crimes. First time shame on them. Second time, shame on us.
ETA: If they are not competent to stand trial, they are not competent to live free in the world. That are a danger to themselves and more importantly, the innocent people of the world with whom they may come in contact. Take your pick. Either way, they need to be removed from mainstream life.
 
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I agree he was carrying the gun as threat. I also think he may have had it for protection. I think he’s afraid of someone settling the score for Suzanne. I don’t mean Andy or anyone in particular, just someone bent on revenge. A person who uses violence to solve a problem might expect to be met with violence. I’m sure that, in his mind, he was very threatened by the search even if Suzanne was nowhere near any of the search areas. And in case it’s not clear, I’m not condoning violence as a solution for anyone.

JMO
MOO BM carrying a shotgun on property is no problem. His right and would cause no comment ordinarily.
Carrying it that day is due to his own fear fallout from acting strange and uncaring about his wifes disappearance. Alienating her family and his BIL to the point the BIL is heading up a search with hundreds of volunteers is the issue.
I got NOTHIN'.

Nothing explains BM not hittng the ground running, intuitively knowing that if she was abducted her life expectency was dropping by the minute, and her best bet was for him to get a massive public appeal going immediately.
He should have been fighting for a state wide alert to go out.
Not futzing with theories.
 
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Let me put together a different timeline.

Perfect love affair
5 am, Mother's Day, BM leaves
For Broomfield
Where he finds himself without the right equipment
Requests MG to assemble a crew before he gets there
Naps, showers
Some time in the afternoon realizes daughters are running late
Connects with daughters/neighbor
Requests call to LE "just to be safe"
(If her bike is missing, wouldn't everybody be RELIEVED? That's why she's not home, she's biking! It's a stretch, no, to jump to "we better find her bike? Because... Cat.)
9pm get home
Take time to be upset with LE
Settle in at house to the rear of family home
Monday, things to do
Tuesday, search. Too soon for a statement, but the right time to leave a helpful list at Poncha Market

7 day mark, 26 second video
2 week mark, ask father in law to sign guardianship papers, "looks like she's not coming back"

Probably Cat. Or abduction. Probably someone known to her.

Oh, well. It happens.

Back to business.
Get temporary guardianship.
Sell Indiana home.
Buy Longhorn lot.
Achieve permanent guardianship.
Acquire condo in Poncha Springs.
Buy a new truck.
Buy a dirt bike.
List family home.
Guard property, make sure no volunteers breach perimeter.
Reverse stance overnight.
Keep a low profile. Avoid most media.

You see that when there's a missing person. Best just to move on. Must'a got herself in the river or lunched on. Or taken by someone known to her, who doesn't want my reward money. Guess mystery abductor can just keep her then?

I wonder what happened to Suzanne's things, when PP got boxed up.

The neighbor who had footage of CW loading up his truck, the day his pregnant wife and two little girls went missing told LE, "he's not acting right."

Gotta say it here, the primary agent, he's not acting right.

Sure, there's a range of normal but ...

My loved one's been missing two weeks so Imma just gonna close the door on that SAID NO INNOCENT PERSON EVER.

JMO
:p:D:( I like your timeline without specific times, because they are not fixed anyway. Imagine: we have the end of October already and nothing is fixed since May 10th (May 8th, May 9th)! 5 months BM had time to work on all needed things - except finding his "only love" and the mum of his daughters. But why invest time and money, when he exactly knows, what happened. I'm curious, what he will be doing next. Maybe he will cancel the suspended reward?
 
  • #660
Add:

Buying a new truck
Buying land and acquiring permits for said land
Hunting trip
<modsnip>
Greeting searchers with a gun and cameras and a stern warning
Not speaking to Suzanne’s family
Not joining any organized searches nor attending the vigil
Not speaking to media or actively speaking out to garner attention for his wife
Not providing a reward with the assistance of LE and/or Crimestoppers
New dirt bike
Not ensuring security cameras were working, yet now there are cameras on the property
Add:

Buying a new truck
Buying land and acquiring permits for said land
Hunting trip
<modsnip>
Greeting searchers with a gun and cameras and a stern warning
Not speaking to Suzanne’s family
Not joining any organized searches nor attending the vigil
Not speaking to media or actively speaking out to garner attention for his wife
Not providing a reward with the assistance of LE and/or Crimestoppers
New dirt bike
Not ensuring security cameras were working, yet now there are cameras on the property

Just a few more....
And so all of these things that BM is engaging in that confirm in our minds his guilt, and yet not enough to warrant an arrest?? For someone who was innocent, we wouldn't have been able to come up with anything showing guilt. What a shame that he is still walking free. Although I know LE is doing thier job and greatly. It's just frustrating.. MOO
 
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