Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #48

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  • #561
But wouldn't many/most people have a jug of bleach on hand from pre-pandemic, that would normally take years to go through, unless they were using it to treat a swimming pool or wash cloth diapers or something.

So anyone might have a half gallon or so sitting around, having not yet used it for anything virus-related. Given how much it's supposed to be diluted, wouldn't even a cup or two be more than enough for the alleged cleaning jobs?

Google tells me 1/3 of a cup of bleach per gallon of water makes a disinfectant. So even a small amount on hand would be useful to the actor even without the option to buy more at that moment in the shortages etc.
He might have used too much of it trying to "erase" something. If it was chlorine, that has a much longer, lingering smell if it's overused. I only know this from having a swimming pool when too much was put in the pool and the smell lingered for a few days. This was because of algae. JMO
 
  • #562
IMO depending on the size of the contract, standard business practice would dictate that there be a contract between the employer and their subcontractors at minimum setting forth the rate of pay, deadlines, materials, insurance requirements, etc., particularly when the work is being performed for a public entity. If your company meets the requirements to bid the job, it is big enough to keep records of it.

I wonder if BM's friends in the business routinely subcontracted work to him in CO or if BM orchestrated it by finding jobs they could bid on and subcontract to him.

I am surprised he would send out two workers that biffed the wall the first time for what could have been an ongoing project and source of income for BM's company. No evidence he took any pride in his company's work product.

MOO
 
  • #563
Maybe he had to rush home to pretend to be his wife texting her friend and she was all ready deceased on Friday. If there was no visual sighting of SM then a text does not prove it was she. Could her friend have left off on Friday's conversation with the impression that they would connect at an exact time on Saturday and he felt if he responded from the home it would be proof that she was alive still. Then he possibly disconnected the internet to make it appear they were cut off accidentally. Hence the panic from the friend. Just my opinion and thoughts.
Yes, it's quite possible, although I think it was Suzanne texting with her friend on Saturday.

Here's an article from Crime Online where AM says he thinks Suzanne was murdered sometime on Saturday night. It also says she was seen on Saturday afternoon in Salida.

"In the interview, Moorman revealed for the first time that he believes Suzanne was killed sometime on the Saturday night before she was reported missing."

Suzanne Morphew’s brother shares new details about her last known sighting and strange activity on his sister’s Facebook page hours before she was reported missing
 
  • #564
Maybe since Barry and Tom Miller were BFF's, work like this was also funneled to him Indiana. So when he moved to Colorado, it was more of the same.
 
  • #565
For anyone in the know...

Is there any legitimate reason the publicly available docs would list Garrett Construction LLC as the original contractor for this retaining wall job, who sub-contracted to EA Outdoor Services, but then show zero documentation listing BM or his company for the actual hands on work?
I think this might explain things. The key point about subcontractors is that they form agreements with the contractor, not with the customer. Barry didn't work for the customer and was not paid by the customer.

Subcontractor vs Contractor: Understanding the Difference
 
  • #566
He might have used too much of it trying to "erase" something. If it was chlorine, that has a much longer, lingering smell if it's overused. I only know this from having a swimming pool when too much was put in the pool and the smell lingered for a few days. This was because of algae. JMO
Like maybe, the directions on the bottle said, use one half cup per washer load, use full strength for murder.
Moo
 
  • #567
I'm having a rough time locating the orginal article where BM accused a former employee of being the one who messed up the wall in the first place. I believe he also accused him of being a drug user, stated he'd (the former employee) made threats against him, and that BM got him some jobs around Salida after that (because that's what you do for people who threaten you, or something?)

Anyone recall where that article is?
 
  • #568
Regardless of who performed the work; is this job a Public Works Project? Is there a need for a certified payroll documenting workers were paid prevailing wage? If so, did E.A. Outdoor Services pay Barry's worker's directly? Workman's Comp, GL COI, in whose name? Sorry for harping on this, but I think there's an angle of deceit somewhere.

Who is carrying the worker’s comp? This isn’t some little backyard project.
 
  • #569
Yes, it's quite possible, although I think it was Suzanne texting with her friend on Saturday.

Here's an article from Crime Online where AM says he thinks Suzanne was murdered sometime on Saturday night. It also says she was seen on Saturday afternoon in Salida.

"In the interview, Moorman revealed for the first time that he believes Suzanne was killed sometime on the Saturday night before she was reported missing."

Suzanne Morphew’s brother shares new details about her last known sighting and strange activity on his sister’s Facebook page hours before she was reported missing

While the timeline of when the communication with her friend was suddenly interrupted is fuzzy, I do believe that was the moment something happened to SM. I just don't believe that BM could carry a conversation with SMs best friend about a wedding for any length of time at all.... I think most women would know very quickly that it wasn't their friend on the other end - especially if discussing something as intimate as a wedding. MOO.
 
  • #570
Something I posted earlier got me thinking more about a possible accomplice after the fact or BM asking someone to help cover for him. If he was desperate and called upon a “ride or die” friend for help would he have actually used his phone to call them? No probably not because his phone records would show anyone he called Friday or Saturday and at exactly what time. Say he called a buddy late Saturday night...then LE could track both of their phones to see if they met up and follow their movements. Of course they could leave their phones at home but how did BM initiate contact? Did he just think he would never be a suspect and it wouldn’t come to that? It would be interesting to see everyone he called that weekend and what time and what for. I’m sure LE covered this in the 30 hours of interviews with BM. Can he even keep his story straight? He already screwed up by saying he left home at 5 am and Suzanne was asleep. I would love to hear his explanation to LE about the 4 am texts from the road!

JP said he talked to BM Saturday in town about working on the wall job and that BM called him Sunday morning to confirm. What time did BM call JP Sunday morning? Was it a phone call or another before dawn text like MG got? BM allegedly texted MG around 4 am about getting a crew together to go to Broomfield. He “changed everything” according to MG and sounded like he “had the worst night of his life.” I’ve always thought it was odd that he texted her so early. MG and the crew didn’t need to be there that early on Sunday. BM didn’t even need to be there that early! BM was going a day early to prepare for the job on Monday so why did he start texting MG at 4 am on Sunday morning? MG & JP (and CC?) didn’t even arrive in Broomfield until early evening on Sunday after BM had already left for his “family emergency.” Why couldn’t BM have waited until a little later Sunday morning, at least until after 7 am, before he contacted MG and then why not just call her to make sure everything was arranged? Wouldn’t that be easier than texting everything back and forth? And it would have been more considerate than disturbing her sleep at 4 am on Sunday which was also Mother’s Day. Why did MG think she better get up and get ready that early? She didn’t need to leave that early. What was so dang important that it couldn’t wait a few hours? There has to be more to it. Could it be that BM texted her so early because he knew MG would call him when she got up and he was going to be busy doing something else and his phone would be turned off or left in the hotel room? Or maybe there was something else BM asked her to do on another job before she left for Broomfield? What did MG do on Mother’s Day until the crew left for Broomfield? Did she have to work somewhere else that morning such as the Salida River/beach site? We don’t know if MG’s child (children) lived with her or what her child care situation was and we cannot sleuth that. I’m just curious if she was home alone on Sunday morning or did she have MD plans? I don’t think we ever heard what MG did that day before she left for Broomfield did we? LS said she had a much longer interview with MG but wasn’t sure she should release all of it. Was there even more revelations in it than MG hearing BM’s truck and texting her at 4 am?

It’s about a three hour drive to the wall job in Broomfield and MG got up at 4 am but they didn’t arrive in Broomfield until around 6 pm? I wonder what time she picked up JP? Did she also pick up CC? Remember MG’s photo of them driving in the car? There was three people in the car right? Was that photo snapped on Mother’s Day on the way to Broomfield or was it taken on Monday? Is there any significance to this photo?

Also If BM was in a desperate panic and decided to ask a trusted friend for help disposing of Suzanne’s body or cleaning up a crime scene but didn’t want to have evidence on his phone then maybe he would drive to this person’s house instead. But it would have to be someone who didn’t have a spouse or anyone else there as a witness. Did BM drive to MG’s house in the dark to beg for help? MG said she heard BM’s truck outside her house at 4 am but then he left. Was MG alone or was her child’s father or boyfriend there? If so was he always there or just sometimes? Did BM go there expecting her to be alone and saw someone else’s vehicle parked at MG’s house so he left? Did he start texting MG after he left to ask her to meet him somewhere else? Or could he have decided to ask another close buddy instead? Or someone he could pay? I’m just speculating and not accusing MG or anyone else of helping BM but in trying to make sense of things it seems like that could be a possibility. Or not. BM could have made the 4 am texts thinking they could help with his job “alibi” instead of hurt it and then he messed up by saying he left home at 5 am. And we are not 100% positive the texts were at 4 am, only MG and LE know that for certain...or that it was BM’s truck she heard. It would be very interesting to know when BM actually left town and when he arrived at the hotel in Broomfield.

But BM did go on record saying he left his house at 5 am and Suzanne was asleep. He said he was going to Broomfield alone to set up the job for his workers on MONDAY. So the 4 AM SUNDAY morning texting and last minute planning doesn’t add up. If he left home at 5 am why was he on the road texting at 4 am. None of it makes sense! BM really screwed up there because the texts would be on both phones. Even if he used a burner phone MG’s phone would have his texts on it. No wonder he was angry she turned over her phone! BM’s downfall will be expecting LE to buy the abduction story and not suspect him at all. He thought he would just tell LE that he left early to set up for the job in Broomfield and his workers would confirm it. He wasn’t expecting LE to look into silly details like the time he texted his crew or when he got to the hotel or what he actually did to set up for the job. His wife would be missing and he would be the poor husband and all the focus would be on looking for her abductor!

I don’t know what caused me to go on this long tangent but I do that sometimes. :p I’ve got my real life stuff to do now. Sorry so long!!
 
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  • #571
Who is carrying the worker’s comp? This isn’t some little backyard project.
In our contract dealings every subcontractor has to have their own insurances and name the main GC and owner etc on the certifications.
 
  • #572
I'm having a rough time locating the orginal article where BM accused a former employee of being the one who messed up the wall in the first place. I believe he also accused him of being a drug user, stated he'd (the former employee) made threats against him, and that BM got him some jobs around Salida after that (because that's what you do for people who threaten you, or something?)

Anyone recall where that article is?
I looked and couldn't find it, either - but my recollection is that maybe it was actually in a video clip (I'm picturing LS's phone with BM on speaker saying these things??)
 
  • #573
IMO depending on the size of the contract, standard business practice would dictate that there be a contract between the employer and their subcontractors at minimum setting forth the rate of pay, deadlines, materials, insurance requirements, etc., particularly when the work is being performed for a public entity. If your company meets the requirements to bid the job, it is big enough to keep records of it.

I wonder if BM's friends in the business routinely subcontracted work to him in CO or if BM orchestrated it by finding jobs they could bid on and subcontract to him.

I am surprised he would send out two workers that biffed the wall the first time for what could have been an ongoing project and source of income for BM's company. No evidence he took any pride in his company's work product.

MOO
According to reporter LS, MG and JP weren’t on the wall job the first time. One of the workers was (Cassidy) and has refused to speak with LS. The other one with initials CC is who I believe BM said he fired for messing it up. Imo

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I'm having a rough time locating the orginal article where BM accused a former employee of being the one who messed up the wall in the first place. I believe he also accused him of being a drug user, stated he'd (the former employee) made threats against him, and that BM got him some jobs around Salida after that (because that's what you do for people who threaten you, or something?)

Anyone recall where that article is?
Pretty sure it was AM speaking to Chris about his first trip out to Colorado and he was questioning BM about anyone who might have a grudge, etc. JMO
 
  • #575
Something I posted earlier got me thinking more about a possible accomplice after the fact or BM asking someone to help cover for him. If he was desperate and called upon a “ride or die” friend for help would he have actually used his phone to call them? No probably not because his phone records would show anyone he called Friday or Saturday and at exactly what time. Say he called a buddy late Saturday night...then LE could track both of their phones to see if they met up and follow their movements. Of course they could leave their phones at home but how did BM initiate contact? Did he just think he would never be a suspect and it wouldn’t come to that? It would be interesting to see everyone he called that weekend and what time and what for. I’m sure LE covered this in the 30 hours of interviews with BM. Can he even keep his story straight? He already screwed up by saying he left home at 5 am and Suzanne was asleep. I would love to hear his explanation to LE about the 4 am texts from the road!

JP said he talked to BM Saturday in town about working on the wall job and that BM called him Sunday morning to confirm. What time did BM call JP Sunday morning? Was it a phone call or another before dawn text like MG got? BM allegedly texted MG around 4 am about getting a crew together to go to Broomfield. He “changed everything” according to MG and sounded like he “had the worst night of his life.” I’ve always thought it was odd that he texted her so early. MG and the crew didn’t need to be there that early on Sunday. BM didn’t even need to be there that early! BM was going a day early to prepare for the job on Monday so why did he start texting MG at 4 am on Sunday morning? MG & JP (and CC?) didn’t even arrive in Broomfield until early evening on Sunday after BM had already left for his “family emergency.” Why couldn’t BM have waited until a little later Sunday morning, at least until after 7 am, before he contacted MG and then why not just call her to make sure everything was arranged? Wouldn’t that be easier than texting everything back and forth? And it would have been more considerate than disturbing her sleep at 4 am on Sunday which was also Mother’s Day. Why did MG think she better get up and get ready that early? She didn’t need to leave that early. What was so dang important that it couldn’t wait a few hours? There has to be more to it. Could it be that BM texted her so early because he knew MG would call him when she got up and he was going to be busy doing something else and his phone would be turned off or left in the hotel room? Or maybe there was something else BM asked her to do on another job before she left for Broomfield? What did MG do on Mother’s Day until the crew left for Broomfield? Did she have to work somewhere else that morning such as the Salida River/beach site? We don’t know if MG’s child (children) lived with her or what her child care situation was and we cannot sleuth that. I’m just curious if she was home alone on Sunday morning or did she have MD plans? I don’t think we ever heard what MG did that day before she left for Broomfield did we? LS said she had a much longer interview with MG but wasn’t sure she should release all of it. Was there even more revelations in it than MG hearing BM’s truck and texting her at 4 am?

It’s about a three hour drive to the wall job in Broomfield and MG got up at 4 am but they didn’t arrive in Broomfield until around 6 pm? I wonder what time she picked up JP? Did she also pick up CC? Remember MG’s photo of them driving in the car? There was three people in the car right? Was that photo snapped on Mother’s Day on the way to Broomfield or was it taken on Monday? Is there any significance to this photo?

Also If BM was in a desperate panic and decided to ask a trusted friend for help disposing of Suzanne’s body or cleaning up a crime scene but didn’t want to have evidence on his phone then maybe he would drive to this person’s house instead. But it would have to be someone who didn’t have a spouse or anyone else there as a witness. Did BM drive to MG’s house in the dark to beg for help? MG said she heard BM’s truck outside her house at 4 am but then he left. Was MG alone or was her child’s father or boyfriend there? If so was he always there or just sometimes? Did BM go there expecting her to be alone and saw someone else’s vehicle parked at MG’s house so he left? Did he start texting MG after he left to ask her to meet him somewhere else? Or could he have decided to ask another close buddy instead? Or someone he could pay? I’m just speculating and not accusing MG or anyone else of helping BM but in trying to make sense of things it seems like that could be a possibility. Or not. BM could have made the 4 am texts thinking they could help with his job “alibi” instead of hurt it and then he messed up by saying he left home at 5 am. And we are not 100% positive the texts were at 4 am, only MG and LE know that for certain...or that it was BM’s truck she heard. It would be very interesting to know when BM actually left town and when he arrived at the hotel in Broomfield.

But BM did go on record saying he left his house at 5 am and Suzanne was asleep. He said he was going to Broomfield alone to set up the job for his workers on MONDAY. So the 4 AM SUNDAY morning texting and last minute planning doesn’t add up. If he left home at 5 am why was he on the road texting at 4 am. None of it makes sense! BM really screwed up there because the texts would be on both phones. Even if he used a burner phone MG’s phone would have his texts on it. No wonder he was angry she turned over her phone! BM’s downfall will be expecting LE to buy the abduction story and not suspect him at all. He thought he would just tell LE that he left early to set up for the job in Broomfield and his workers would confirm it. He wasn’t expecting LE to look into silly details like the time he texted his crew or when he got to the hotel or what he actually did to set up for the job. His wife would be missing and he would be the poor husband and all the focus would be on looking for her abductor!

I don’t know what caused me to go on this long tangent but I do that sometimes. :p I’ve got my real life stuff to do now. Sorry so long!!
I have worked in the building construction business for many years and if my boss or the GC on the job called me at 4am - the building was on fire or a tornado hit it.
There is more behind the scene regarding the texts/truck in driveway/etc. JMO
 
  • #576
I have worked in the building construction business for many years and if my boss or the GC on the job called me at 4am - the building was on fire or a tornado hit it.
There is more behind the scene regarding the texts/truck in driveway/etc. JMO
ITA
 
  • #577
I have worked in the building construction business for many years and if my boss or the GC on the job called me at 4am - the building was on fire or a tornado hit it.
There is more behind the scene regarding the texts/truck in driveway/etc. JMO

I think so too and it’s this gut feeling I have that won’t go away. I suspect that BM drug someone else into this perhaps taking advantage of someone who is younger or has feelings for him or has drug problems etc. Or someone who is involved in shady business dealings with BM that will go down if BM does. Or he could have something on someone and blackmailed them into helping him. Or someone owed him a big favor. Or just a loyal friend who bought BM’s sob story. There are many possibilities but the 4 am texting and truck outside MG’s stick out like a sore thumb to me. And the bigger picture here is IF there was an accomplice does someone else besides BM know what happened and WHERE Suzanne is? :confused:
 
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I have worked in the building construction business for many years and if my boss or the GC on the job called me at 4am - the building was on fire or a tornado hit it.
There is more behind the scene regarding the texts/truck in driveway/etc. JMO

Yes, it's not insignificant that MG places BM at her home at 4 am. If that lines up with his vehicle and phone records, he's got a lot of explaining to do.

The question for us is why was he there?

1. He'd secretly borrowed a vehicle?
2. Dumpster?
3. He was going to knock on her door but changed his mind?

Did he contact her at 4 am or, having heard his truck but then he was gone, did she contact him, basically to say, "what up, Dude? It's freaking 4 am!"

If MG hadn't heard his truck, the early conversation IMO may not have ensued.

Question remains, why was he there and why did he leave?

Unless..... maybe he was going to talk to her in person, so there'd be no phone record, but SHE TEXTED/CALLED him ....

I get the feeling nothing broke in his favor that day.

JMO
 
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  • #579
I have worked in the building construction business for many years and if my boss or the GC on the job called me at 4am - the building was on fire or a tornado hit it.
There is more behind the scene regarding the texts/truck in driveway/etc. JMO
ITA- seems personal IMO
 
  • #580
I'm having a rough time locating the orginal article where BM accused a former employee of being the one who messed up the wall in the first place. I believe he also accused him of being a drug user, stated he'd (the former employee) made threats against him, and that BM got him some jobs around Salida after that (because that's what you do for people who threaten you, or something?)

Anyone recall where that article is?

Wasn’t that the same guy that BM accused of being a drug addict and had threatened him?
 
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