Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #48

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  • #721
I tend to agree, but the neighbor has never been named.
I speculated early on that he was there because BM called him and asked him to head over there.
But then I have to wonder, if he could have called him to head over there after the fact, why didn't he call him in the first place to check on SM at the house, instead of calling the neighbor lady?

SO much of what we know in this case, doesn't make sense.

jmo
Because that wouldn’t have followed the script he had written.
Girls worry
Girls call neighbor
Neighbor checks house
Neighbor calls BM
BM asks neighbor to recheck, mentions bike
Neighbor calls BM back
Neighbor is worried
BM suggests she call LE
BM jumps in truck to drive home.
BM calls FF friends to spread the alarm.
MOO
 
  • #722
I tend to agree, but the neighbor has never been named.
I speculated early on that he was there because BM called him and asked him to head over there.
But then I have to wonder, if he could have called him to head over there after the fact, why didn't he call him in the first place to check on SM at the house, instead of calling the neighbor lady?

SO much of what we know in this case, doesn't make sense.

jmo
RBBM
This is one of many things that lead me to believe there was an element of premeditation. I believe BM called the neighbour because he KNEW he needed GD at the “crime” scene to report back to him in real time. I really, really dislike him for using his elderly neighbour in such a way. JMHO.
 
  • #723
LE has all of this:

1. GPS/cell phone data for BM's drive to Broomfield, including stops.
2. Time BM checked in to the Broomfield HIE
3. Security camera footage from the Broomfield HIE

A murder, cover-up, and body disposal could have occurred anywhere from the time SM stopped communication with her friend to the time BM left for, or arrived in, Broomfield. We just don't know how many hours that entailed.

But LE does.

We also don't know the forensic results from the house search.

But LE does.

Mr. And Mrs. M's relationship and financial situation? LE knows.

There will be an arrest.
 
  • #724
Because that wouldn’t have followed the script he had written.
Girls worry
Girls call neighbor
Neighbor checks house
Neighbor calls BM
BM asks neighbor to recheck, mentions bike
Neighbor calls BM back
Neighbor is worried
BM suggests she call LE
BM jumps in truck to drive home.
BM calls FF friends to spread the alarm.
MOO

Plus we need to remember that THAT timeline comes from BM and has been confirmed and corroborated by no one.

Me personally, I think it's entirely possibly that the girls couldn't reach EITHER parent on Sunday morning, and without deep worry/ concern, contacted the "neighbor" who happen to be IMO close family friends, assuming their parents were together and that THAT "neighbor" might know where their parents were. I'm sure it was NO ONE'S first thought that she was GONE, they were simply trying to locate/reach her.

I wonder when the really worry set in.

JMO
 
  • #725
I tend to agree, but the neighbor has never been named.
I speculated early on that he was there because BM called him and asked him to head over there.
But then I have to wonder, if he could have called him to head over there after the fact, why didn't he call him in the first place to check on SM at the house, instead of calling the neighbor lady?

SO much of what we know in this case, doesn't make sense.

jmo
BBM
Perhaps it was just a matter of who could have gotten there quicker and that would have been the neighbor.
jmo
I keep trying to put myself in BM's position. If I needed or wanted someone to check on my mate I would call my neighbor first and then a nearby friend next.
But I'm still not getting why BM thought there was concern for alarm. I mean, SM had a car, was a bicyclist, had friends in the area, etc. Seems to me being out and about would be natural.
Had many hours passed that SM couldn't be reached? Was that what supposedly caused the concern?
 
  • #726
I pictured the dirt as being in the truck bed, not on the trailer or in the Bobcat bucket.
Yes, that would also explain having to clean all his tools from the truck bed with bleach at the hotel, right? :cool:
 
  • #727
BBM
Perhaps it was just a matter of who could have gotten there quicker and that would have been the neighbor.
jmo
I keep trying to put myself in BM's position. If I needed or wanted someone to check on my mate I would call my neighbor first and then a nearby friend next.
But I'm still not getting why BM thought there was concern for alarm. I mean, SM had a car, was a bicyclist, had friends in the area, etc. Seems to me being out and about would be natural.
Had many hours passed that SM couldn't be reached? Was that what supposedly caused the concern?
I think the 'concern' was that she was probably known to carry her phone with her every day, and the girls would have especially expected her to have her phone since SM was going to be getting Mother's Day calls and would want to receive them, even if she was hiking/biking/driving. BM called, just to keep up the pretense that she was still alive.
 
  • #728
Has AM been heard from since returning to Indiana; aside from the Dr. Phil episode?
 
  • #729
I can't believe the five means her remains are in five different locations, because LE doesn't need 100% of her remains to make their case. JMO

Just don't ask me what the "five" DOES mean, because it makes no sense to me...
 
  • #730
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  • #731
IMO, the PE guys don't know know anymore facts of this case than you or me. When I say facts, I mean what actually happened to SM to cause her disappearance. They are speculating just like all of us on WS. I'm confident in saying LE is not sharing any investigation facts with them. Again, IMO, it's all speculation.

Really? Well if you are right then I will be so disappointed. When I hear PE say things like we have significant information and we have known it for awhile but don’t want to jeopardize the investigation it sounds very credible to me. If they were just speculating would they put their reputations on the line like that? Maybe I’m just gullible and drinking up the Koolaid!

This was my first case that I have followed and I’ve definitely learned some hard lessons along the way. I’m also new to YouTube and the monetization of it all. But they all have to do that and I understand many YT creators say certain things or string us along so people will come back or join their membership. PE has to create content to keep viewers coming back to stay competitive. But I don’t think they would intentionally lie or mislead their viewers. Mike and Chris have integrity and solid backgrounds (in my opinion). I fully agree they have “teased” us repeatedly with the “five” clue but I really thought that was because one of them got carried away and revealed more than they should have so they have been dragging it out until it is safe to disclose the meaning. That’s why I was shocked by what Chris said last night on their members live chat. And yes I get that they want viewers to pay for a membership and they want to give members something extra to make it worth it, etc. but I believe what they are saying.

I think PE have deep long standing LE connections specifically with the CBI & FBI not the CCSO. I realize CBI or FBI can’t technically give out information about an active investigation to PE but I think colleagues or “brothers in blue” have a way of discussing and sharing things unofficially. I think it happens and perhaps PE shared too many hints about things told to them in confidence. Maybe whoever gave them this information is not happy with them at all about it and will not be discussing anything further with PE from now on so they don’t know if the five areas have been searched or not or if anything was found. I got the impression that PE was sort of working with LE on the public crowd sourcing side of the investigation and might have also done a lot to help them so they both benefit. It’s hard to work together without sharing information.

I don’t know...but I respect your opinion @K9Enzo and it seems like there are others that agree with you. I thought there were a lot of others like me who still want to get to the bottom of what the “five” clue meant so that’s why I brought it to the thread again. I’m sorry if I annoyed anyone though! :(

Edited to make those pesky paragraphs. :D
 
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  • #732
Plus we need to remember that THAT timeline comes from BM and has been confirmed and corroborated by no one.

Me personally, I think it's entirely possibly that the girls couldn't reach EITHER parent on Sunday morning, and without deep worry/ concern, contacted the "neighbor" who happen to be IMO close family friends, assuming their parents were together and that THAT "neighbor" might know where their parents were. I'm sure it was NO ONE'S first thought that she was GONE, they were simply trying to locate/reach her.

I wonder when the really worry set in.

JMO
Great points, @Megnut!
 
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  • #734
Was the 26 second video a veiled message to someone who would receive it as such? "I have another $100,000 in hush money..."

How much silence could a cool 100 thou buy?

JMO
I definitely don’t think so. I believe it was a public relations effort to avert suspicion.

When his staged bike ride scenario collapsed, he would have been absolutely panicked. He couldn’t stand next to the sheriff and repeat lies that he had already been called on. I think that was the basis of the “too soon” remark.

He had to release a statement, and appeal for his missing wife. That was expected of him, and he had to appease his family and friends.

Had he done what every family member of a missing loved one does in a situation like this, he would have opened himself up to questions from the media.

Questions that he was not prepared to answer.

So the video and huge reward would compensate for his failure to do that, while protecting himself.

It backfired.
 
  • #735
Fair question. I only present ideas but admittedly my understanding of diggy thingies and pully thingies is sorely lacking. But it sure looks like dirt AND Bobcat tracks on the bed of that trailer.

Conversely, I see no mountain lion tracks.

And the only one COVERING HIS TRACKS didn't do a great job.

3 30 hours was IMO a snow job. That didn't go well. Because frankly I bet he was all over the place. Literally and physically.

JMO
I guess anything is possible, but in my opinion it would be unusual to haul dirt, rock, or sand on that trailer. Especially if we're talking driving to Broomfield. Rules of the road; if an object leaves your vehicle/trailer and damages another vehicle you're liable. Anyway, hindsight being foreknowledge it wouldn't be surprising if he was a knucklehead and did just what you suspect.
 
  • #736
Has AM been heard from since returning to Indiana; aside from the Dr. Phil episode?

Someone asked about Andy in the chat on PE last night, and they said he needed to step out of the spotlight for a minute, and that the pressure was immense, but he's doing ok.
 
  • #737
Surely holes for footings were dug at the Salida jobsite. Which means the equipment for doing so may have been readily available.

JMO
And one of the piers for the foundation at the Salida job site failed first inspection after Mother's Day.

ETA: Source of that is on PE Story Map, under Search Warrants... the two pages regarding permits and then inspections.
 
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  • #738
It's easy to offer a huge reward if you know that the chances of it being claimed are almost zero. Smoke and mirrors.
 
  • #739
And one of the piers for the foundation at the Salida job site failed first inspection after Mother's Day.

I wonder why it was failed? Do have a link?
 
  • #740
It's easy to offer a huge reward if you know that the chances of it being claimed are almost zero. Smoke and mirrors.
It was easier than that even:

He never actually had to put up the money (move it from his bank account to a reward fund). It was just an empty promise.

The odds of it being claimed were zero, as he knew she wasn’t being returned alive.
 
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