Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

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  • #81
It's not odd to me they have not confirmed the bike, giving they have not confirmed much of anything as far as investigation findings.

To me it sounds like this: Suzanne Morhew is missing, a personal item was recovered, the end.

I do think the buddy, GD, took issue with the handling of the bike when it was discovered and think that was his honest reaction. (I'm personally not suspicious of GD) If SM would have been found alive, but injured that night, they (BM's family/friends) probably wouldn't have thought more about the bike. She safe. It's not unusual, IMO, for family and friends of the missing to criticize LE along the way. It happens and LE is use to it and can take the punches. IMO

I have to wonder if GD's reaction wasn't predisposed that way, due to something BM told him, before GD ever arrived on site. Maybe suggesting to him that it was possibly a kidnapping, so naturally, a crime scene where the bike was located. GD had to have some reason for acting like it was an evidence recovery scene, instead of an accidental bike crash. Or... maybe it was really obvious to GD right away, that it actually was a staged scene, regardless of what (if anything) BM told him, before he got there?

So many unknowns, STILL, after all this time.

ETA: I do wonder if BM told GD about this guy, that he told AM about. The alleged ex-employee that was on drugs, and messed up the wall in Broomfield. The guy who BM said he ran into just a WEEK prior to Suzanne going missing (my, how convenient is that, eh?) and threatened him, and that he had to tell him to leave his family alone, "or else". If GD knew about this guy, it makes a lot more sense why he might think Suzanne's crashed bike might have been the result of this rogue employee making good on the alleged threats BM said he made.

 
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  • #82
I have to wonder if GD's reaction wasn't predisposed that way, due to something BM told him, before GD ever arrived on site. Maybe suggesting to him that it was possibly a kidnapping, so naturally, a crime scene where the bike was located. GD had to have some reason for acting like it was an evidence recovery scene, instead of an accidental bike crash. Or... maybe it was really obvious to GD right away, that it actually was a staged scene, regardless of what (if anything) BM told him, before he got there?

So many unknowns, STILL, after all this time.
You make really good points! I really want to think that GD is a decent human and smart so I would hope he would think if the bike was NOT damaged it was staged.

MOO
 
  • #83
I have to point something out maybe its my OCD...but why would say "your' minds thinking? Aren't we all kind of trying to figure things out?

MOO

I hope we all are, nothing indicates otherwise to me. I guess I beat myself up in way when using that word. I have thought about it, and saying 'your' throws it on the table to be thought about by all.
 
  • #84
I hope we all are, nothing indicates otherwise to me. I guess I beat myself up in way when using that word. I have thought about it, and saying 'your' throws it on the table to be thought about by all.
Fair enough! NO worries :)
 
  • #85
BBM for focus
Absolutely correct on the releasing of the Puma Path home back to BM.
Another thing I’ve thought about - I wonder if the home under construction (where the concrete was busted up by FBI & CBI) was a result of GPS from BM’s truck which placed him there during odd hours or if it was MG’s information she gave to LE during her numerous grillings from the FBI or CBI. MOO

There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by the elderly woman’s apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
I think the above because in my experience, in times of extreme stress, we seek out the FAMILIAR for solutions. BM had graded that lot Thursday, Friday and with Morgan raked the beach part Sat. morning. He knew where the ground would be easily dug, he knew they were going to pour the slab on Monday and her “grave” would be covered in concrete.
 
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  • #86
No I dont think GD had anything to do with it, if anything I think hes suspicious of Barry. Oh absolutely LE lets that slide right off !

MOO
I don't think GD has any involvement in Suzanne going missing either. But the way he called out LE right off the bat, made me think he might have tried to insert himself at the scene and was rebuffed. Remember, he is a self proclaimed expert of sorts, so his ego was likely bruised. But maybe he had a legitimate point in the end.

It wouldn't be the first case where early on before there is any indication of a crime, evidence is mishandled. Makes me think of the Heather Elvis case. When her vehicle was initially found at PT Landing, the cop who discovered it let Terry drive it home. It wasn't seized and taken by forensic teams for a few days after she went missing.
 
  • #87
There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by her apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
1000 % agree

MOO
 
  • #88
I don't think GD has any involvement in Suzanne going missing either. But the way he called out LE right off the bat, made me think he might have tried to insert himself at the scene and was rebuffed. Remember, he is a self proclaimed expert of sorts, so his ego was likely bruised. But maybe he had a legitimate point in the end.

It wouldn't be the first case where early on before there is any indication of a crime, evidence is mishandled. Makes me think of the Heather Elvis case. When her vehicle was initially found at PT Landing, the cop who discovered it let Terry drive it home. It wasn't seized and taken by forensic teams for a few days after she went missing.
@Knox birds of a feather....two big egos.... Yes, Heather is such a sad case, but they got theirs. Tammy is evil. MOO
 
  • #89
There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by the elderly woman’s apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
I think the above because in my experience, in times of extreme stress, we seek out the FAMILIAR for solutions. BM had graded that lot Thursday, Friday and with Morgan raked the beach part Sat. morning. He knew where the ground would be easily dug, he knew they were going to pour the slab on Monday and her “grave” would be covered in concrete.

I don't recall ever hearing before that BM graded the river lot on Thursday, only that he "worked" there Friday night, according to MG.

“Barry had worked on the beach site Friday evening,” Gentile said. “Saturday, he had asked me to clean it up and rake it out, because we were going to bring it out to level – so it would be a beach sand and not muck.” ‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #90
There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by the elderly woman’s apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
I think the above because in my experience, in times of extreme stress, we seek out the FAMILIAR for solutions. BM had graded that lot Thursday, Friday and with Morgan raked the beach part Sat. morning. He knew where the ground would be easily dug, he knew they were going to pour the slab on Monday and her “grave” would be covered in concrete.
YES you are spot on. They do seek out familiar. I seek out familiar in times of stressful events ...and I think Barry was completely overwhlemed and stressed after he killed her ( if he killed her). THIS is why I'm convinced.....almost bet all my money ....that she is somewhere Barry knows well. Somewhere no one can bother her, knows she'll be left alone...but knows exactly where she is and how to get back to her.

I think Barry is struggling...even if outwardly he seems to be living it up....its EATING away at him.

MOO

MOO
 
  • #91
Out of all the important facts we’ve heard so far I think the most incriminating is BM asking JP to cover for him (that Sunday) due to a family emergency the Saturday before SM went missing.

I also find it suspect BM using JPs room that Sunday and leaving it a Chlorine smelling mess. JP and BM look a lot alike from afar. Was BM trying to set him up due to JP’s long rap sheet and previous jail stint?

MOO
 
  • #92
Out of all the important facts we’ve heard so far I think the most incriminating is BM asking JP to cover for him (that Sunday) due to a family emergency the Saturday before SM went missing.

I also find it suspect BM using JPs room that Sunday and leaving it a Chlorine smelling mess. JP and BM look a lot alike from afar. Was BM trying to set him up due to JP’s long rap sheet and previous jail stint?

MOO
YEP that's my opinion . I think he was trying to set him up 100%.

MOO
 
  • #93
I don't recall ever hearing before that BM graded the river lot on Thursday, only that he "worked" there Friday night, according to MG.

“Barry had worked on the beach site Friday evening,” Gentile said. “Saturday, he had asked me to clean it up and rake it out, because we were going to bring it out to level – so it would be a beach sand and not muck.” ‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

I love that interview with Morgan. For four months I had defended Barry on multiple sites and Morgan convinced me he is guilty. Just too many odd circumstances.
 
  • #94
I love that interview with Morgan. For four months I had defended Barry on multiple sites and Morgan convinced me he is guilty. Just too many odd circumstances.
I believe Morgan's statements.
 
  • #95
YES you are spot on. They do seek out familiar. I seek out familiar in times of stressful events ...and I think Barry was completely overwhlemed and stressed after he killed her ( if he killed her). THIS is why I'm convinced.....almost bet all my money ....that she is somewhere Barry knows well. Somewhere no one can bother her, knows she'll be left alone...but knows exactly where she is and how to get back to her.

I think Barry is struggling...even if outwardly he seems to be living it up....its EATING away at him.

MOO

MOO

IMHO After he left the riverside job site he went home and left his cell phone and pickup there. He put her tarp-wrapped body into one of the Range Rovers (assuming it didn’t have a built-in GPS) and drove westerly. Chaffee county has over 500 abandoned mines with many vertical shafts and I speculate he dropped her in one.

Why westerly? He was going east/NE the next morning to Broomfield. Suz’s personal item (guessing helmet) was planted 3/4 mile west of the bike off US50 ... showing her imaginary abductors’ direction of travel. If her remains are found it would “Prove” she was abducted.

How did he know of a mine shaft? He and his hunting buddies would have driven those old mining roads and Jeep trails looking for game.

All, of course MOO!
 
  • #96
IMHO After he left the riverside job site he went home and left his cell phone and pickup there. He put her tarp-wrapped body into one of the Range Rovers (assuming it didn’t have a built-in GPS) and drove westerly. Chaffee county has over 500 abandoned mines with many vertical shafts and I speculate he dropped her in one.

Why westerly? He was going east/NE the next morning to Broomfield. Suz’s personal item (guessing helmet) was planted 3/4 mile west of the bike off US50 ... showing her imaginary abductors’ direction of travel. If her remains are found it would “Prove” she was abducted.

How did he know of a mine shaft? He and his hunting buddies would have driven those old mining roads and Jeep trails looking for game.

All, of course MOO!
So I’ve also thought he most likely wrapped her in a tarp ... I’m glad you think that too. Surely Barry owned one or two also ...You make the best points, that makes complete sense Bc he is going to want her to be somewhere that no one can disturb . Wow.
Moo
 
  • #97
Hi, I’ve been active elsewhere but lurking here since May 20th. This is my first post on WebSleuths.
Let’s go back to day one. The gravel in the tread of Suzanne’s bike tires could reveal whether the bike was tossed in the ditch, purely as a ruse, or if she was abducted from her bike ride. Let me elaborate:

Background: The route Suzanne typically rode on her bike was from her home, down her subdivision road to a little subdivision bridge across Little River to a spur road of CR225. There she could ride down 225
along the river to Fooses dam or up towards US50 (or both). The bike was found on CR225, not far from US50. Locals say she would not have ridden the shoulder of US50 to get to CR225 because it too dangerous.

The spur and CR225 have a commercial type of gravel, as governments tend to buy. Her driveway and her subdivision streets are a darker, more “upscale” type of gravel.
Therefore, The PREVIOUS TIME she rode the bike HOME, the tire tread would have picked up that type of gravel before she put it in the garage. IF that darker gravel was in the tires when it was found it is likely the killer DROVE the bike to CR225 and tossed the bike in the ditch as a ruse.

If Suzanne RODE her bike to CR225 where the bike was found ... the tread would have a lot of commercial grade gravel.

So, analysis of the bike tires could show murder or abduction. The bike languishes in the CCSO Evidence Room.

Good information here regarding the gravel, @KindaSleuthy. Just a quick question. Do you have definitive information regarding her usual bike route?
“Locals say she would not have ridden the shoulder of US50 to get to CR225 because it too dangerous.”
I am not understanding this statement. She gets to 225 directly from PP and would not have to bike along Hwy 50. From her home she would have 2 choices leaving Puma Path. All would require turning left out of her driveway as PP dead ends shortly after the Morphew home. I am attaching a couple of maps to the post because I think it’s easier to visualize what I am trying to say about possible bike routes.
Coming out at the end of PP would place her at the 225 intersection where she could go left to Fooses Dam or right, which would take her to either 226 up the road on her left, or on up to Hwy 50 right past where her bike was found.
If she turned left off PP at the dirt road before reaching 225, she would be on the road that leads to Monarch Spur RV Park and the lake/dam at the S Arkansas River. From studying the map of the area, SM would have about four different routes that are basically out and back on the same road and another one which would provide a circular route on which only the last quarter of a mile, (from the 50-225 intersection), would be the same. This last route could be traveled in either direction.
I have drawn out the possible routes on one of the attached maps. All assume she has taken a left out of her driveway.

Route 1 would go to the 225 intersection, then left to Fooses and the southern part of the Colorado Trail.
Route 2 would go right on 225 and left on 226 just before Hwy 50.
Route 3 would go to the left on the dirt road before the intersection of 225 and to either the RV Park or the lake where she would turn around and come back.
Route 4 would go right at the intersection of 225 then up across 50 to the northern section of the Colorado Trail
Route 5 would go towards the RV Park, cross 50, and then circle back to the CO trail where she would cross 50 again.
Routes 4 and 5 both cross Hwy 5o which is a very busy roadway.
MOO
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IMHO After he left the riverside job site he went home and left his cell phone and pickup there. He put her tarp-wrapped body into one of the Range Rovers (assuming it didn’t have a built-in GPS) and drove westerly. Chaffee county has over 500 abandoned mines with many vertical shafts and I speculate he dropped her in one.

Why westerly? He was going east/NE the next morning to Broomfield. Suz’s personal item (guessing helmet) was planted 3/4 mile west of the bike off US50 ... showing her imaginary abductors’ direction of travel. If her remains are found it would “Prove” she was abducted.

How did he know of a mine shaft? He and his hunting buddies would have driven those old mining roads and Jeep trails looking for game.

All, of course MOO!
What do you make of AM’s missing coolers comment? I think there was dismemberment involved. I know people have disregarded the hrd dogs hitting at 3 separate places. But I think where there’s smoke there’s fire. BM sending his undercover buddies to those sites while the fbi was looking at them makes me think there was something there at one point in time.
 
  • #99
"Suspending" Reasonable Doubt?
You raise a good point about a no-body case, and suspending reasonable doubt that the victim is deceased. If and when the case goes to trial, they will bring evidence to prove she is deceased.... Corpus delicti
@steeltowngirl sbm Thanks for your post. Not sure I understand the phrase about "suspending" reasonable doubt, so am repeating part of my post:

"CO Jury Instructions state the prosecutor must prove each element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt to find the defendant guilty." * bbm
"IOW, a jury finding multiple elements of a crime true Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, but on one element - death - only a "likelihood" must find the def not guilty." *
Just trying to clarify my post, as it said nothing about "suspending" reasonable doubt. my2ct.

ETA:
From your post - "If and when the case goes to trial, they will bring evidence to prove she is deceased."
Yes, agreeing prosecutor will present evd of SM's death, but emphasizing the jury must believe, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, that SM is dead. Not just likely that she is dead.
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* my post #50 on this thread
 
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  • #100
Or....

Wasn't there a firefighter on scene?

What if he, as a courtesy and not at all considering that a crime might've occurred, picked the bike up, tossing it in his own vehicle? Which would mean LE didn't touch it at all! And moreover it could already have been moved back to PP for safekeeping.

Imagine if, as the main actor here pulled up, he demanded to know -- as did 400 tours guy-- why the bike had been MOVED. Manhandled by 10 man hands. Whelp.

You can't KNOW where a bike HAD been if it's not there now .... unless you were there when it got there.

LE may in fact have had NOTHING to do with the recovery of the bike!

JMO
 
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