Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

[Knox]

Since the subject was coolers (plural) I made the assumption of dismemberment.
Also, the only benefit of putting a body in a huge cooler would seem to be concealment. Most of the spec is that it happened at night, so no need for concealing. Who knows? We don’t need missing coolers to make Barry look suspicious. Lol
As I recall, Andy also said that the CBI told him Barry wouldn’t take a lie detector test. I have a GBI agent two houses down and she said that would not be likely have been divulged to a relative. She laughed and said if he was a suspect it might be different. I have been interviewed by the FBI and they were stone-faced. Attempts at humor or questions were met with a stare. Also, I ask myself - why would the CBI travel to Indiana where they didn’t have jurisdiction when the FBI has field agents?

A cooler would also nicely contain body fluids- if that were a concern, with no need to tie it up as with a tarp that might leak.

The GBI, interesting! Did you follow the Christi Cornwell case back in 2011? I know for a fact case information was shared with Richard Cornwell, Christi's brother.

It's been said the CBI traveled to Indiana more than once. Most investigator's do travel to other jurisdictions, pretty commonplace.

 

[Error505]

First I want to say that I admire Andy for his search efforts. However, IMO he constantly said things to try and make BM look bad and without getting into details, many proved to be falsehoods or distortions.
On the coolers, it begs the question, did Andy do a search of the house, garages and attics? His obvious implication is that BM dismembered her.

As far as the cadaver dogs signaling, at the end LE said essentially they were false alarms.

BBM For Focus
AM never said anything to the kind as SM being dismembered by BM. Also, AM is a victim in all of this.
You’re the first person I’ve come across who thinks AM said things to “make” BM look bad. BM does a fantastic job on his own & really doesn’t need any help. AM is very much a victim in the SM missing person case. I’ve had the highest respect for AM watching him under extremely difficult times. With Gene’s cancer diagnosis, AM had promised his dad he would bring SM home. I think AM got a few details wrong or mixed up by mistake (re: Colorado Springs vs Denver on where BM was on Mother’s Day), etc.

If I recall correctly, BM called AM’s search effort “a publicity stunt”.

I will always defend AM. 100% in his corner. He was very puzzled why his BIL of 20+ years was doing absolutely nothing to find his missing baby sister.

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum!

All very much my own opinion! Praying AM finds his baby sister!

 

[LietKynes]

I think Andy gave Barry the benefit of the doubt . He went in thinking she was abducted. It was Barry’s behavior that made him question things and yes there are things certain agents will tell family . First it depends on the agent , second it depends on the family member . There is no way Andy could of lied about that Bc that could be slander . Andy wasn’t slandering Barry he was/ us trying to find his sister to give her a proper burial .
The dismemberment theory I think is too far fetched. Barry isn’t going to dissect and cut her up . No way , that’s not how he would want to remember her . This was VERY personal to Barry. He may of gently put her in a cooler only to transport. If he’s guilty .
moo

bbm
Agreed.
To date, Andy has been the only one to raise awareness for Suzanne.
It's shameful.
The worst part is that 'the husband' as BM first wanted to be referred to as -- called Andy's search a "publicity stunt".
Who does that to a grieving and fearful sibling -- of your own wife???
Imo.

 

[Error505]

Since the subject was coolers (plural) I made the assumption of dismemberment.
Also, the only benefit of putting a body in a huge cooler would seem to be concealment. Most of the spec is that it happened at night, so no need for concealing. Who knows? We don’t need missing coolers to make Barry look suspicious. Lol
As I recall, Andy also said that the CBI told him Barry wouldn’t take a lie detector test. I have a GBI agent two houses down and she said that would not be likely have been divulged to a relative. She laughed and said if he was a suspect it might be different. I have been interviewed by the FBI and they were stone-faced. Attempts at humor or questions were met with a stare. Also, I ask myself - why would the CBI travel to Indiana where they didn’t have jurisdiction when the FBI has field agents?

Most people would definitely “conceal” a dead body, in the daylight or dark, MOO

 

[KindaSleuthy]

I think Andy gave Barry the benefit of the doubt . He went in thinking she was abducted. It was Barry’s behavior that made him question things and yes there are things certain agents will tell family . First it depends on the agent , second it depends on the family member . There is no way Andy could of lied about that Bc that could be slander . Andy wasn’t slandering Barry he was/ us trying to find his sister to give her a proper burial .
The dismemberment theory I think is too far fetched. Barry isn’t going to dissect and cut her up . No way , that’s not how he would want to remember her . This was VERY personal to Barry. He may of gently put her in a cooler only to transport. If he’s guilty .
moo

We have a diff slant about Andy. I also don’t agree with the dismemberment or for that matter the need for a cooler.

 

[LietKynes]

BBM For Focus
AM never said anything to the kind as SM being dismembered by BM. Also, AM is a victim in all of this.
You’re the first person I’ve come across who thinks AM said things to “make” BM look bad. BM does a fantastic job on his own & really doesn’t need any help. AM is very much a victim in the SM missing person case. I’ve had the highest respect for AM watching him under extremely difficult times. With Gene’s cancer diagnosis, AM had promised his dad he would bring SM home. I think AM got a few detail mixed up by mistake (re: Colorado Springs vs Denver on where BM was on Mother’s Day), etc.

If I recall correctly, BM called AM’s search effort “a publicity stunt”.

I will always defend AM. 100% in his corner. He was very puzzled why his BIL of 20+ years was doing absolutely nothing to find his missing baby sister.

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum!

All very much my own opinion!

You beat me to it.
Agreed completely.

Andy's hopes must have been raised when cadaver dogs 'hit' on areas BM had landscaped or used his bobcat.
Only to find nothing.
But the dogs smelled something, imo.

Iirc, it was also mentioned that BM seemed to be carting his bobcat via a flatbed trailer around town with him in the early days of Suzannes' disappearance.
Wonder where it is now ?
MOO

 

[Janeumayer]

I think Andy gave Barry the benefit of the doubt . He went in thinking she was abducted. It was Barry’s behavior that made him question things and yes there are things certain agents will tell family . First it depends on the agent , second it depends on the family member . There is no way Andy could of lied about that Bc that could be slander . Andy wasn’t slandering Barry he was/ us trying to find his sister to give her a proper burial .
The dismemberment theory I think is too far fetched. Barry isn’t going to dissect and cut her up . No way , that’s not how he would want to remember her . This was VERY personal to Barry. He may of gently put her in a cooler only to transport. If he’s guilty .
moo

I guess I’ve just been here too long and followed hundreds of cases throughout the years to find a narcissistic personality like BM who is an avid hunter capable of murder and possibly dismemberment while disassociating himself from the act.
Of course, this is just a theory and just an opinion based on my experience following missing persons cases. MOO

 

[OldCop]

Everything you say makes sense. I must have been looking at the wrong home, like you said. I guess it doesn’t change the bike tire/gravel scenario because the photos, drone shots and videos show Puma Path having the darker gravel.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Exactly. I thought that was an excellent point that you made.

 

[KindaSleuthy]

A cooler would also nicely contain body fluids- if that were a concern, with no need to tie it up as with a tarp that might leak.

The GBI, interesting! Did you follow the Christi Cornwell case back in 2011? I know for a fact case information was shared with Richard Cornwell, Christi's brother.

It's been said the CBI traveled to Indiana more than once. Most investigator's do travel to other jurisdictions, pretty commonplace.

Guess I outed myself, lol Georgia.
Didn’t know they traveled that much. Live and learn.
I think she was strangled so no need for a cooler. That would also explain why LE didn’t find blood evidence at the house. If they had, he would be in the slammer IMO. That story about bleach at the house was bogus but that is another day.

 

[Error505]

You beat me to it.
Agreed completely.

Andy's hopes must have been raised when cadaver dogs 'hit' on areas BM had landscaped or used his bobcat.
Only to find nothing.
But the dogs smelled something, imo.

Iirc, it was also mentioned that BM seemed to be carting his bobcat via a flatbed trailer around town with him in the early days of Suzannes' disappearance.
Wonder where it is now ?
MOO

It’s rare I beat anyone on here making a point. LOL. This is one strong group of very capable Sleuthers!

Well, since BM’s last scenario was the SM was abducted, the “Bob Cat” has probably been traded in for candy and flowers . LoL
Also, Bob Cats are hard to take with you to small remote islands with no extradition treaty with the U.S. MOO

Calling it a night. Sleep peaceful everyone. ~~~~

 

[DeDee]

First, I'm enjoying your posts. Thought provoking.

In the beginning Andy stayed very neutral. IMO, as he learned more about the case he came to believe, like many of us here. BM is responsible for Suzanne's disappearance. Naturally, that is going to be reflected in his interviews.

I don't think Andy implied BM dismembered Suzanne. At her height and weight she could fit inside a large cooler without doing so. Trust me- there have been cases where while discussing what could fit in a large cooler. We've had posters call out their height & weight and climb in one to prove it. Andy stated he has never been in the PP home, so no he didn't search there. IIRC, his implication was actually that he was told no coolers were found at the home. Who would tell him that? My guess is the same source who told him Barry's vehicle data didn't match the account he gave to LE. All MOO-

Someone mentioned recently a possibility of Suzanne never returning home after dining on sandwiches at 4pm Saturday in Salida with BM.

I'm leaning toward a premeditated crime BMDI. Suzanne could have been harmed on the drive home then tucked somewhere on the truck bed and driven to a pre-planned location at any convenient time.

Would they drive into town in his truck rather than her personal vehicle? Would he lure her into the woods on pretense? Maybe he carried some things needed in the bed of his huge truck. ie., an item such as a blanket, Yeti, tarp, rope, tools, axes, generators, well, we just don't know. I simply cannot go to dismemberment as it shows only a particularly incurable evil psychopath capable. What I'm trying to say is that I think she remained whole of body until burial or disposal.

Perhaps there was a pre-dug hole for some purpose. If premeditated, everything was in position.

AM stated he never got closer to his sister's home than the driveway.

AM also stated Detectives were scouring the area of the incident with the bike and the river while he and his team went a different direction as not to interfere with their Investigation.
.

 

[Knox]

Guess I outed myself, lol Georgia.
Didn’t know they traveled that much. Live and learn.
I think she was strangled so no need for a cooler. That would also explain why LE didn’t find blood evidence at the house. If they had, he would be in the slammer IMO. That story about bleach at the house was bogus but that is another day.

I wouldn't be much of a sleuth if I didn't pick up on that hint

 

[Knox]

Most people would definitely “conceal” a dead body, in the daylight or dark, MOO

Lol, what would draw more attention if you were stopped by a cop? A large cooler or a tarp shaped like a body and duct taped at both ends?

 

[LietKynes]

Lol, what would draw more attention if you were stopped by a cop? A large cooler or a tarp shaped like a body and duct taped at both ends?

You do have a point !
In the media article, it was interesting that the investigators found no coolers at all, in the house or other areas (garage, mudroom, etc.).
And why in the photos of the house for sale was there no clear pic of the mudroom ?
Was it being remodeled ?

Some people don't keep coolers in their house for whatever reason.

In all fairness to Andy, he was spoon fed a lot of stuff by the PE guys. JMO~

True.
Can't say he didn't try to find Suzanne and it's obvious he cared about her.
He looked tired and sad in his interviews and the photos.
MOO

 

[KindaSleuthy]

BBM For Focus
AM never said anything to the kind as SM being dismembered by BM. Also, AM is a victim in all of this.
You’re the first person I’ve come across who thinks AM said things to “make” BM look bad. BM does a fantastic job on his own & really doesn’t need any help. AM is very much a victim in the SM missing person case. I’ve had the highest respect for AM watching him under extremely difficult times. With Gene’s cancer diagnosis, AM had promised his dad he would bring SM home. I think AM got a few details wrong or mixed up by mistake (re: Colorado Springs vs Denver on where BM was on Mother’s Day), etc.

If I recall correctly, BM called AM’s search effort “a publicity stunt”.

I will always defend AM. 100% in his corner. He was very puzzled why his BIL of 20+ years was doing absolutely nothing to find his missing baby sister.

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum!

All very much my own opinion! Praying AM finds his baby sister!

I didn’t say that Andy said dismembered. The plural term coolerS caused me to think that.

 

[KindaSleuthy]

BBM For Focus
AM never said anything to the kind as SM being dismembered by BM. Also, AM is a victim in all of this.
You’re the first person I’ve come across who thinks AM said things to “make” BM look bad. BM does a fantastic job on his own & really doesn’t need any help. AM is very much a victim in the SM missing person case. I’ve had the highest respect for AM watching him under extremely difficult times. With Gene’s cancer diagnosis, AM had promised his dad he would bring SM home. I think AM got a few details wrong or mixed up by mistake (re: Colorado Springs vs Denver on where BM was on Mother’s Day), etc.

If I recall correctly, BM called AM’s search effort “a publicity stunt”.

I will always defend AM. 100% in his corner. He was very puzzled why his BIL of 20+ years was doing absolutely nothing to find his missing baby sister.

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum!

All very much my own opinion! Praying AM finds his baby sister!

Praying along with you.

 

[Janeumayer]

It’s good to see so many people here in Suzanne’s thread waiting for the day justice is served or she is found. I am keeping my hopes up that either day will come.

 

[LietKynes]

In all fairness to Andy, he was spoon fed a lot of stuff by the PE guys. JMO~
He's been Suzanne's most vocal advocate, I tip my hat to him.

Agreed.
I think Andy was not only out of his home state and with some (basically) strangers--- but also out of his element and with a growing fear for Suzanne from the moment his own brother in law said the search for Suzanne was a publicity stunt; in essence-- bogus.
A lot of pressure for a man who was just trying to find out what happened to his sister.
MOO

 

[Boxer]

Agreed.
I think Andy was not only out of his home state and with some (basically) strangers--- but also out of his element and with a growing fear for Suzanne from the moment his own brother in law said the search for Suzanne was a publicity stunt; in essence-- bogus.
A lot of pressure for a man who was just trying to find out what happened to his sister.
MOO

Why would a husband would eschew the help of hundreds of volunteers coming to look for his missing wife?
There really is only one logical reason.

 

[PaulaDC]

There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by the elderly woman’s apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
I think the above because in my experience, in times of extreme stress, we seek out the FAMILIAR for solutions. BM had graded that lot Thursday, Friday and with Morgan raked the beach part Sat. morning. He knew where the ground would be easily dug, he knew they were going to pour the slab on Monday and her “grave” would be covered in concrete.

I don't recall ever hearing about an apartment. The woman lived in the home next door to the construction site. moo