Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

[LietKynes]

There is a 3rd possibility. I don’t have the links but: Remember the elderly woman in the nearby apartment who was woken by the sound of equipment running at that site late at night (11pm?) She only remembered it was on Mother’s Day weekend. It was discussed here on Websleuths and other sites at length.

I speculate that it was Saturday night and it was Barry’s Bobcat making the noise in a failed attempt to bury SM ... scared off by the elderly woman’s apartment lights and/or someone else’s.
I think the above because in my experience, in times of extreme stress, we seek out the FAMILIAR for solutions. BM had graded that lot Thursday, Friday and with Morgan raked the beach part Sat. morning. He knew where the ground would be easily dug, he knew they were going to pour the slab on Monday and her “grave” would be covered in concrete.

bbm
Agreed.

Theory : I do think that it's possible the bobcat touched her remains at some point in time --if Suzanne is deceased which I think possible.
Then, if the 'cat was used in BM's other places of work-- the cadaver dogs would've smelled something.
I think the reason LE called it a 'false positive' --if they did say that (I will go and check back in the timeline); is that they dug and found nothing.
But that doesn't mean the dogs didn't pick up the odor of cadaverine.
Yes I know dogs aren't 100% accurate.
MOO

 

[LietKynes]

Or....

Wasn't there a firefighter on scene?

What if he, as a courtesy and not at all considering that a crime might've occurred, picked the bike up, tossing it in his own vehicle? Which would mean LE didn't touch it at all! And moreover it could already have been moved back to PP for safekeeping.

Imagine if, as the main actor here pulled up, he demanded to know -- as did 400 tours guy-- why the bike had been MOVED. Manhandled by 10 man hands. Whelp.

You can't KNOW where a bike HAD been if it's not there now .... unless you were there when it got there.

LE may in fact have had NOTHING to do with the recovery of the bike!

JMO

Good points !

What a possible slip of the tongue for a certain person.
Who cares if the bike was picked up and taken back to the Morphew home by some firefighter or good Samaritan ??
Unless......
At the time she was reported missing-- there wasn't supposed to be a crime suspected, just that she was inexplicably gone.
Someone who complained about the bike being handled by ten people or more made it sound like a crime had happened.
Imo.

 

[PaulaDC]

Lol, what would draw more attention if you were stopped by a cop? A large cooler or a tarp shaped like a body and duct taped at both ends?

It still makes me wonder why a contractor with tools didn't have a large tool box and just had loose tools on a hotel cart..... things that make you go hmmmm.

 

[Error505]

Good points !

What a possible slip of the tongue for a certain person.
Who cares if the bike was picked up and taken back to the Morphew home by some firefighter or good Samaritan ??
Unless......
At the time she was reported missing-- there wasn't supposed to be a crime suspected, just that she was inexplicably gone.
Someone who complained about the bike being handled by ten people or more made it sound like a crime had happened.
Imo.

BBM
BINGO! Nailed It!

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don't recall ever hearing about an apartment. The woman lived in the home next door to the construction site. moo

There was no apartment. I'm not at all sure where all this is coming from.

 

[al66pine]

Cooler Needed After Strangulation?

... I think she was strangled so no need for a cooler. That would also explain why LE didn’t find blood evidence at the house...

@KindaSleuthy sbm bbm Thanks for your post and I'm trying to make sure I'm understanding it. Mostly speaking gen'ly here, not about SM & BM specifically.
Is post is saying - when a person is fatally strangled, there's no leakage of vic's bodily fluids, so no need for perp to place intact body into a cooler? And saying/suggesting a tarp or blanket is sufficient for transporting body and leaving no forensic evd of injury? Respectfully I disagree.

Some medical evaluation protocol materials* state - involuntary loss of bladder & bowel control may occur during strangulation, both fatal or non-fatal. May occur within one minute duration of strangling. So, imo a cooler or equivalent could be useful in containing and concealing body, which likely leaked fluids before being transported. Preferable to tarp/blanket.

Post states as fact - LE found no blood evd. If LE released that, I missed it. Link, anyone?

In trying to gain control of vic resisting, perp may inflict other injuries on vic who then bleeds, leaving blood evidence at strangulation site. May be miniscule, esp'ly after perp cleans up, but still may be detected and DNA matched. (An insignificant amt of vic's blood in her own house may also remain from non-nefarious actions, like vic herself inadvertently knicking fingers while prepping food.)

Was there bleeding and loss of bladder & bowel control? IDK, but a clear-headed perp, whether acting spontaneously or carrying out a detailed "master-plan," should consider opting for a cooler. And maybe a tarp too.

Or if perp is actually clear-headed, forget homicide & file for divorce instead. my2ct.
_____________________________________________
* pages 1, 5, 10. PHYSIOLOGICAL CONSEQUENCES OF STRANGULATION
https://www.tribal-institute.org//2018/F7HO.pdf

 

[Boxer]

Good points !

What a possible slip of the tongue for a certain person.
Who cares if the bike was picked up and taken back to the Morphew home by some firefighter or good Samaritan ??
Unless......
At the time she was reported missing-- there wasn't supposed to be a crime suspected, just that she was inexplicably gone.
Someone who complained about the bike being handled by ten people or more made it sound like a crime had happened.
Imo.

Missing woman, bike down embankment.
MOO looked like a crime immediately.
Bobcat grabbing cyclist off the road a distant second.

 

[Aloe]

Article at link below, dated 9/3/20, includes info regarding CBI agents bringing up other concerns to AM- queried Andy about why they couldn’t find any coolers at the Morphew home.

Snipped from the article and BBM:

Moorman said CBI agents brought up other concerns as well.
“They did ask us, ‘why can’t we find any coolers at the house?’ And I said, ‘well I have no idea. I don’t know how many they had to begin with,” he said. “But I assume, as a hunter and a guy that maybe camps, he would have a few, and they couldn’t find a single one.”

Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado


IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

Could it be possible that the daughters used coolers for their camping trip?
Or maybe the absent coolers are now at the bottom of an abandoned mine?
I am new to the case and will probably never catch up with the facts, is it known whether any of the mines in the area were searched?

 

[swedeheart]

 

[Rachelj1]

bbm
Agreed.

Theory : I do think that it's possible the bobcat touched her remains at some point in time --if Suzanne is deceased which I think possible.
Then, if the 'cat was used in BM's other places of work-- the cadaver dogs would've smelled something.
I think the reason LE called it a 'false positive' --if they did say that (I will go and check back in the timeline); is that they dug and found nothing.
But that doesn't mean the dogs didn't pick up the odor of cadaverine.
Yes I know dogs aren't 100% accurate.
MOO

I agree with you. I think it was a false hit because where they dug wasn't the right spot. I am totally convinced the dogs hitting on 3 different spots ALL connected to Barry is crucial. They need to GO BACK and search again.

MOO

 

[Rachelj1]

Could it be possible that the daughters used coolers for their camping trip?
Or maybe the absent coolers are now at the bottom of an abandoned mine?
I am new to the case and will probably never catch up with the facts, is it known whether any of the mines in the area were searched?

@KindaSleuthy your theory is the mines too? I dont think those were searched.

MOO

 

[Boxer]

Could it be possible that the daughters used coolers for their camping trip?
Or maybe the absent coolers are now at the bottom of an abandoned mine?
I am new to the case and will probably never catch up with the facts, is it known whether any of the mines in the area were searched?

Coolers being taken on a long car trip during pandemic very possible.
The Sheriff knows if they were.
There was a lot of suggestion that previous DA wasn't moving on the evidence. Kind of a low blow that can't be defended against because a DA saying it's not true, reveals the lack of evidence.
Now a new DA is not filing charges, and that is two DAs that have not.
Looking like killer gets away with it.

 

[Rachelj1]

Coolers being taken on a long car trip during pandemic very possible.
The Sheriff knows if they were.
There was a lot of suggestion that previous DA wasn't moving on the evidence. Kind of a low blow that can't be defended against because a DA saying it's not true, reveals the lack of evidence.
Now a new DA is not filing charges, and that is two DAs that have not.
Looking like killer gets away with it.

Well lets be real....money talks and politics maybe? NO hes not getting away, keep the pressure!!!

MOO

 

[KindaSleuthy]

In all fairness to Andy, he was spoon fed a lot of stuff by the PE guys. JMO~
He's been Suzanne's most vocal advocate, I tip my hat to him.

No matter a person’s virtues, they should still be responsible for what they SAY in public interviews as I said earlier,

Cooler Needed After Strangulation?
@KindaSleuthy sbm bbm Thanks for your post and I'm trying to make sure I'm understanding it. Mostly speaking gen'ly here, not about SM & BM specifically.
Is post is saying - when a person is fatally strangled, there's no leakage of vic's bodily fluids, so no need for perp to place intact body into a cooler? And saying/suggesting a tarp or blanket is sufficient for transporting body and leaving no forensic evd of injury? Respectfully I disagree.
What you say is possible.
Some medical evaluation protocol materials* state - involuntary loss of bladder & bowel control may occur during strangulation, both fatal or non-fatal. May occur within one minute duration of strangling. So, imo a cooler or equivalent could be useful in containing and concealing body, which likely leaked fluids before being transported. Preferable to tarp/blanket.

Post states as fact - LE found no blood evd. If LE released that, I missed it. Link, anyone?

In trying to gain control of vic resisting, perp may inflict other injuries on vic who then bleeds, leaving blood evidence at strangulation site. May be miniscule, esp'ly after perp cleans up, but still may be detected and DNA matched. (An insignificant amt of vic's blood in her own house may also remain from non-nefarious actions, like vic herself inadvertently knicking fingers while prepping food.)

Was there bleeding and loss of bladder & bowel control? IDK, but a clear-headed perp, whether acting spontaneously or carrying out a detailed "master-plan," should consider opting for a cooler. And maybe a tarp too.

Or if perp is actually clear-headed, forget homicide & file for divorce instead. my2ct.
_____________________________________________
* pages 1, 5, 10. PHYSIOLOGICAL CONSEQUENCES OF STRANGULATION
https://www.tribal-institute.org//2018/F7HO.pdf

 

[KindaSleuthy]

@KindaSleuthy your theory is the mines too? I dont think those were searched.

MOO

It was reported Andy’s group searched one mine.

 

[Rachelj1]

It was reported Andy’s group searched one mine.

Oh I didn't realize that. He'll be back, sooner than later.

MOO

 

[K9Enzo]

Thanks for posting.

I think it's an unreasonable stretch to compare an adult missing woman to a child that has gone missing and the family home being sold/family moving.

In a bizarre scenario where SM stumbles back, alive, to Puma Path, I'm certain she would not be lost forever because the family no longer lives there. I suppose she could knock on the neighbors door.

It's possible BM sold the home because the remaining Morhew family does NOT want to be there anymore and they know, down deep, she's never returning, anywhere. That's the reality they are living in. IMO

 

[fcavanaugh]

Could it be possible that the daughters used coolers for their camping trip?
Or maybe the absent coolers are now at the bottom of an abandoned mine?
I am new to the case and will probably never catch up with the facts, is it known whether any of the mines in the area were searched?

Yes I suppose it’s possible the daughters used coolers for their camping trip, however LE searches of the home were executed after the daughter’s returned from their camping trip. The first LE search of the home was on May 19th iirc. The second LE search of the home was executed in early July, so I’d think any coolers used for the camping trip would’ve been returned to the home by then, but that’s jmo.

As far as abandoned mines having been searched, I don’t remember hearing anything about LE having searched any, but I do recall AM discussing on an episode of PE, having attempted to search an abandoned mine during his big search last fall and iirc, (paraphrased) he said he had started down the mine with flashlight in hand, but he slipped/started slipping, and had to abort his mission as it was too dangerous to continue on searching the mine.
Personally, I have thought it entirely possible that SM was disposed of/dropped down an abandoned mine shaft. Apparently there are a plethora of abandoned mines located off the beaten paths/remote wilderness in CO, and I remember hearing or reading somewhere that locations of abandoned mines can be known to experienced/expert Hunters and Trackers, as there’s a strong likelihood they’d come across them while out on hunting excursion/s.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

 

[K9Enzo]

Please someone clear the air. MK stated that BM "has the conservatorship now and beat the system".

Did BM do this illegally and pull a fast one on the courts? The courts are not capable of working within the law and are not competent to handle such cases? IMO

 

[Boxer]

It was reported Andy’s group searched one mine.

There is road down from Highway 50, Old Monarch Pass Road that leads to a mining area.
Parallel electric line towers and their catwalk trails provide miles of passable, off road, extremely remote, and untraveled wilderness.
This is the area BM layed down.

A person on a mission to hide something has many many options in the area.