Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

[tresir2012]

lol, love to solve autocorrect mistakes... Could kittens be conniptions? hahaha took me a few reads to figure that out.

Ha ha. No it's not auto correct. "Having kittens" is a colloquial saying.

 

[otto]

Ha ha. No it's not auto correct. "Having kittens" is a colloquial saying.

... like a kniption, meltdown, or uppity?

 

[Snoods]

I’m not even sure I’d miss the taste and texture that much once I got decent recipes (easy ones) figured out. I’m pretty happy with variations on beans and rice. And to keep this on topic for the mods the possibility of a meat shortage is what got me thinking initially, and the treatment of the animals and employees is what really got me thinking.

We’ve roped in another vegan, @LadyL!

 

[Snoods]

Ha ha. No it's not auto correct. "Having kittens" is a colloquial saying.

... like a kniption, meltdown, or uppity?

No, it’s an expression that means you’re anxious, nervous or scared. “I was having kittens until I knew he was safe.”

 

[Lilibet]

We’ve roped in another vegan, @LadyL!

LOL! Stay tuned for updates.

 

[tresir2012]

Tony Cushingberry: Suspect Arrested In Mail Carrier Death | Heavy.com

Indiana Virus Stimulus Check Murder News.......moo

What a crazy world.

 

[BeckyF]

absolutely yes

When I see those videos of workers in the market slaughtering animals in front of customers it really makes me ill.

 

[tresir2012]

El Salvador leader fights crime and virus, amid criticism

I couldn't quite believe the picture in this article.

El Salvador leader fights crime and virus, amid criticism
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele is the most popular leader in Latin America
By
MARCOS ALEMÁN and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN Associated Press
28 April 2020, 21:30
7 min read

In this Saturday, April 25, 2020 photo released by the El Salvador presidential press office, inmates are lined up during a security operation under the watch of police at Izalco prison in San Salvador, El Salvador. Last weekend there were 47 killings in El Salvador, a surge in violence that the government alleges was directed from gangs in prison. The government reacted by releasing photos of imprisoned gang members stripped virtually naked and stacked against each other as punishment, and President Nayib Bukele said he authorized the use of lethal force against gangs and ordered that their members be put in the same prison cells, creating the potential for more bloodshed. (El Salvador presidential press office via AP)The Associated Press

 

[tresir2012]

I don’t care much for the wall of masks. It seems like a waste to me when people are needing masks.

I think he said in the briefing that all the masks would find a good home. He displayed them to show what they are being sent every day by the very generous and caring public, I believe.

 

[tresir2012]

Tillicum, I am not lonely, but would you like my address for some of that good baking and cooking ?.....moo

Lol. Mine too.

 

[Lilibet]

El Salvador leader fights crime and virus, amid criticism

I couldn't quite believe the picture in this article.

El Salvador leader fights crime and virus, amid criticism
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele is the most popular leader in Latin America
By
MARCOS ALEMÁN and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN Associated Press
28 April 2020, 21:30
7 min read

In this Saturday, April 25, 2020 photo released by the El Salvador presidential press office, inmates are lined up during a security operation under the watch of police at Izalco prison in San Salvador, El Salvador. Last weekend there were 47 killings in El Salvador, a surge in violence that the government alleges was directed from gangs in prison. The government reacted by releasing photos of imprisoned gang members stripped virtually naked and stacked against each other as punishment, and President Nayib Bukele said he authorized the use of lethal force against gangs and ordered that their members be put in the same prison cells, creating the potential for more bloodshed. (El Salvador presidential press office via AP)The Associated Press

There’s a certain sick irony in the El Salvadoran President authorizing the use of lethal force against gangs and putting members in the same cells, potentially causing more bloodshed but making them wear protective masks in this photo.

This president may be fighting crime and coronavirus, but when he ignores a decision by the court and uses soldiers to pressure the legislature, it doesn’t bode well for El Salvador.

From the link:

Eduardo Escobar, director of the nongovernmental organization Acción Ciudadana, acknowledged Bukele’s measures had slowed the virus but said he was “showing an authoritarian profile” and his disobedience of the court “is a dangerous declaration because ultimately it means he is going to concentrate power in his hands. He is going to execute, he is going to legislate and he is going to judge.”

He said Bukele has succeeded by using fear and positioning himself as the country’s savior.
JMO

 

[Curious Me]

Earlier I read that freezing doesn't usually kill the virus. I guess it can hang onto packaging within your freezer? Now, this. I'm glad there's so many scientific minds working on learning about CV-19. Just the words aerosol particles sends my mind racing. Does it just rides on particles like a surfer? These may sound like stupid questions, but could it attach to household or dusting sprays? How about non-stick cooking sprays?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...airborne-coronavirus-transmission-unanswered/

"A growing number of studies, including one published this week in the journal Nature, have found evidence that the coronavirus can remain suspended in the air in aerosol particles."

 

[MassGuy]

Captain Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised more than £29m for the UK's NHS, celebrates his 100th birthday with an RAF flypast.



[URL="https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1255761397348171783?s=21"]BBC Breaking News on Twitter[/URL]

 

[tresir2012]

nope
no Clorox or Lysol wipes
no hand sanitizer
no rubbing alcohol

I gave a tip about using baby wipes and diluted bleach or antiseptic the other day to make your own wipes.

 

[Curious Me]

I gave a tip about using baby wipes and diluted bleach or antiseptic the other day to make your own wipes.

I read your post yesterday about making your own from wipes that were starting to dry out. The only thing I'd worry about is if there was a chemical interaction, but that's probably doubtful with baby wipes. Anyways, I wanted to tell you that's a good idea. I can find other kinds of wipes, but not the disinfectant kind.

Saying Good Night to All.

 

[tresir2012]

Captain Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised more than £29m for the UK's NHS, celebrates his 100th birthday with an RAF flypast.

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BBC Breaking News on Twitter

BBC have got it a little bit wrong - he is Colonel Tom now as the Queen promoted him on his birthday today.

This is a great fly past - looks like a couple of Spitfires but not sure.

 

[tresir2012]

I read your post yesterday about making your own from wipes that were starting to dry out. The only thing I'd worry about is if there was a chemical interaction, but that's probably doubtful with baby wipes. Anyways, I wanted to tell you that's a good idea. I can find other kinds of wipes, but not the disinfectant kind.

Saying Good Night to All.

No they are fine. Diluted bleach or just a little washing up soap and water too if worried about using bleach. I think baby wipes only have water in them but MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

Earlier I read that freezing doesn't usually kill the virus. I guess it can hang onto packaging within your freezer? Now, this. I'm glad there's so many scientific minds working on learning about CV-19. Just the words aerosol particles sends my mind racing. Does it just rides on particles like a surfer? These may sound like stupid questions, but could it attach to household or dusting sprays? How about non-stick cooking sprays?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...airborne-coronavirus-transmission-unanswered/

"A growing number of studies, including one published this week in the journal Nature, have found evidence that the coronavirus can remain suspended in the air in aerosol particles."

Not sure but it has certainly been found to have been transmitted by air conditioning. Both myself and Margarita have posted the China study that found that fact.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus hero Tom Moore promoted to Colonel on his 100th birthday

Coronavirus hero Tom Moore promoted to Colonel on his 100th birthday
The veteran's big day will also be marked with a flypast by a Spitfire and a Hurricane over his Bedfordshire home.

Captain Tom Moore, the World War Two veteran who has raised almost £30m for NHS charities, is celebrating his 100th birthday, after being promoted to the rank of honorary colonel.

Captain Moore had originally set out to raise £1,000 by walking 100 laps of his garden, but after his story captured the nation's heart the donations flooded in.


In recognition of his achievements, Chief of the General Staff General Sir Mark Carleton-Smith has promoted him to the rank of honorary colonel of the Army Foundation College, a promotion approved by the Queen.

His birthday will also be marked with a Battle of Britain Memorial Flight flypast by a Spitfire and a Hurricane above his Bedfordshire home.

Happy Birthday Colonel Tom. What a fantastic guy, what amazing achievements!

 

[tresir2012]

Damn it otto, you are being stubborn! 5% death rate of coronavirus would kill millions in the U.S. You cannot look at death rate per confirmed cases.

Deaths rate means deaths from CV divided by the % of total infections in a population. How do you know the total infections in a population?

Total positive CV tests mean nothing since they test only a small segment of the population, and they are heavily biased towards symptomatic people and healthcare workers (which is good). And tests only tell if someone is active with CV, not if they have recovered. We also know there are many, many asymptomatic people that have/had CV and didn’t know it, or didn’t have much in the way of symptoms, thus never tested.

So the only way to find out the deaths rate is to know how many people have been infected. This can be done with antibody testing. These tests are not perfect but have a small error rate which seems to balance between positive and negative false readings.

New York State conducted cross-state antibody testing that showed 14.9% of the population had COVID at one time. This represents 2.7 million had COVID-19 instead of the 250,000 confirmed positive cases. This translates to an actual death rate of 0.5%. Very bad but not the 2-4% repeated in the media to this day.
But NYC is one of the hardest hit areas in the world, high population density and some hospitals overrun. 0.5% death rate should be the high water mark for the U.S.

Then the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine conducted the first truly randomized CV antibody data collection and found a coronavirus death rate of 0.18% in heavily populated Miami Dade County, from an extrapolated 165,000 positive cases and 295 deaths. IMO, this should be more representative on the country. Note the media reported about the results but never mentioned the 0.18% death rate, which was all that mattered.

We could compare this 0.18% death rate to the flu rate of 0.10%, but the comparisons stop there. Coronavirus has no vaccine and is more contagious and asymptomatic, which is why we have a pandemic.

1 in 5 New Yorkers May Have Had Covid-19, Antibody Tests Suggest

Asymptomatic: People who tested positive showed no symptoms - CNN

There is death rate based on cases for tracking the disease, and deaths per million population too. I think it is good to look at both.

While looking I notice UK are now third in the world based on the number of deaths and are close to overtaking Italy to become 2nd place to the US. I have been watching us slowly going up this list the last couple of weeks. Very concerning.