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Still not clear. Thursday mentioned and Friday. And whether MT will testify. Which doesn't make sense, since both sides rested.
Possibly Friday, if the State wants to call witnesses-they’ll know Thursday.Is there more tomorrow?
Idk. Detectives kimball and ventruska I believe were on the list too. Why are all the witnesses not being asked to testify? What is the State doing here?Did the parties rest?
And the petitioner was so pleased with her 'ineffective counsel argument,' that she's not calling Mama T to support no habla Ingles facade?
The State gets their chance-if they want to call Kimball and Ventresca, they can call them on Friday.Idk. Detectives kimball and ventruska I believe were on the list too. Why are all the witnesses not being asked to testify? What is the State doing here?
It’s sadly always been a loyal group of people here that have been vocal since day 1. I’m glad the group is back and paying attention and bearing witness to yet more shenanigans in the CT Judiciary.It just dawned on me! Look at this post over the last few weeks! How many sleuths are commenting? Just a handful! ( Don’t get me wrong - we are meaningful!).
However, if you look at so many other high profile cases going on here - we need backup. Of course the NBC News Miller followers are not backing us - we need some support here!
JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER!![]()
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ne...oconis-andrew-bowman-dulos-trial-21292020.phpIf both sides rested late Tuesday, and given MT decided not to speak, it seems to me that the only potential questions might be from the Judge-- related to the Exhibits previously filed.![]()
Does the judge know that no appeals have been filed?In a nutshell, the habeas corpus writ is typically an inmate's method of last resort to be freed from prison -- after the convicted has exhausted their appeal efforts.
In Latin, habeas corpus means “you should have the body.” It requires a judge to literally have a detainee physically present to weigh the legality of their confinement. It is the government’s responsibility to prove that the individual’s detention is lawful, and if it fails, the person must be freed. But let's be clear: MT was not arbitrarily imprisoned. There was just cause to arrest MT, and she was never deprived of due process.
In MT's amended brief, she argued she is being unconstitutionally imprisoned because she did not receive effective legal representation from her former attorney, Andrew Bowman, a veteran defense lawyer with more than 50 years of experience. She claims Bowman failed to inform her of her Miranda rights, and other standard legal protections before she spoke with police.
IMO, MT failed to prove this was the case, beginning with Bowman uncovering video evidence showing the lead prosecutor expressing doubt about MT's involvement in Dulos’ murder. But if this evidence wasn't used effectively at trial, that's on JLS-- not Bowman!
To prevail with the writ, MT's legal team must prove not only that Bowman’s representation was ineffective, but also that it directly led to her conviction. They then have to prove that if he had been effective, she wouldn’t have been convicted.
For those who followed this case, I think most will agree that had MT actually cooperated with investigators from the beginning, it's doubtful FD would have ever been released on bail, and MT wouldn't have ever been charged with conspiracy to commit murder.
Nonetheless, if MT wasn't charged in January 2020, I think the clear surveillance evidence would convict MT a second time for Tampering with or Fabricating Physical Evidence, in violation of Section 53a-155 C.G.S8., and Hindering Prosecution in the First Degree, in violation of Section 53a-165aa C.G.S.16
MOO
FOX/61: MT has the cart before the horse
Does the judge know that no appeals have been filed?
Its an interesting question you are asking. I do wonder WHY MT didn't go the extra step of questioning the representation of Schoenhorn as he was as you say the 'trial attorney' and was responsible for the failure at the suppression hearing about the 3 interviews? I wonder if there was quid pro quo for the Troconis crew NOT bringing Habeas against him in return for him putting the suppression hearing issues on the transcript and introducing the issue of the Bowman representation at trial? Can't you just imagine him saying to MT and Mama Troconis, "We put this on the record now and a Judge 3 years from now will simply release you and it doesn't matter what Judge Randolph rules. Just sit tight and do your time in prison as the State of CT will simply release you." Prison and bail reform in CT imo has been a cancer and defense attorneys such as Schoenhorn realise that early release is a given and get out of prison cards are easily obtained by Judges that don't believe in incarceration.Does the judge know that no appeals have been filed?
Someone play devil's advocate with me. Bowman continually told MT that she did not have to talk to LE but she could exercise her right to do so. He also advised her she should not lie. She did lie. Over and over again. That led to the arrest charges. But as you say JLS represented her at her trial not Bowman. So how did Bowman's ineffective counsel lead to her conviction?
IMO both Bowman and the State thought she would roll on Dulos. But she didn't--couldn't.
This is where I'm confused as I thought the rules stated that exhaustion of appeal was REQUIRED prior to Habeas? Why would the Judge allow this hearing now? I'm also not sure that the appeal is even fully briefed as my recollection is that the State had requested additional time back in December 2025.Yes, you may recall before the proceedings began, Judge Schuman questioned MT thoroughly if she was aware of the State's Request to Canvass the Petitioner, and Schuman outlined all the client-attorney rights she was waiving with her Habeas Corpus petition.
Also, MT has filed an appeal, but advanced the writ of HC before a date set for her appellate oral argument.
The state of Connecticut has withdrawn its appeal of trial judge Kevin Randolph’s ruling at Michelle Troconis’ sentencing to vacate one of her two counts of conspiracy to commit evidence tampering.
State’s Attorney Paul Ferencek brought up that initially, the state believed the matter would be dealt with during the trial (there was supposed to be a hearing before closings but that changed).
@News12CT
9:30 AM · Jun 18, 2025
Ferencek also said it would be a waste of time and money to pick a jury & go to trial on this matter when the max sentence is 6 months & Troconis is already serving a 14.5 year sentence. “The state would rather focus its efforts on fighting Troconis’ appeal.”
@News12CT
9:30 AM · Jun 18, 2025
Troconis’ family and friends in the courtroom applauded as the judge dismissed the case and told her, “Congratulations.”
@News12CT
9:30 AM · Jun 18, 2025
This is where I'm confused as I thought the rules stated that exhaustion of appeal was REQUIRED prior to Habeas? Why would the Judge allow this hearing now? I'm also not sure that the appeal is even fully briefed as my recollection is that the State had requested additional time back in December 2025.
Thank you for this info. I hope between now and Friday that the State gets its ducks in a row. I simply do not understand how Atty Bowman doesn't get an opportunity to rebut outright speculation of another attorney as my understanding of the proceeding was that the so called 'expert' was to have reviewed the record (this was not completely done by Fitz as they not only didn't review the entire trial record but they didn't even fully review the Judge Randolph opinions/orders related to suppression or request Atty Bowmans notes or even request to speak with Attorney Bowman). I frankly found the testimony of the so called 'expert' quite disturbing as imo it simply sought to reinvent a history of what happened via connection the dots of missing information using pure speculation and started from the premise that a cooperation agreement was 'best practice' or 'required' for MT to speak with the police. I'm quite baffled by how Atty Bowman can be held responsible for the informed choices of MT and her mother as it was made quite clear to 'tell the truth' and that 'you don't have to speak with police', when the path to some kind of immunity or cooperation agreement was shown quite clearly IN THIS CASE with PG to absolutely not follow the path outlined by the so called 'expert' witness. I would also like to see Colangelo recalled to explain the PG process so that the Judge has that on the record and also a more detailed explanation of his thought process on the MT lying and lack of qualification for a cooperation agreement. This has all been quite disappointing to watch play out and I say that as someone that has zero faith in the pursuit of justice in the State of CT.The rules don't prevent filing the writ of HC prior to exhaustion of appeal, providing the petitioner waives certain rights--which MT did. It's simply not the normal course.
IMO, MT went this route because she thinks she has a quicker and better chance of getting a new trial, AND released from custody, by way of the HC, versus her direct appeal. IMO, asking to transfer her appeal from the Appellate to the Supreme Court is the first sign she's stretching for a target that she can't reach.
MT's appeal was initially due in Feb 2025, and after multiple extensions granted by the Court, the brief was finally e-filed on 11/10/25. (Before the State dropped its Appeal in May 2025, the parties appeared to be matching each other's extensions- hoping the arguments would occur at the same time).
However, on 12/5/2025, MT filed a Motion seeking to Transfer the Appeal from the Appellate Court to Supreme Court, and the Court has not responded to the Motion, as of this date. The 8 pg Motion is linked below.
On 12/5/25, the State requested an extension of time to file Appellee's/Respondent's brief -- granted to 6/29/26.
ETA: On 11/7/25, MT Noticed the Court on the sealed report included in the appellant's brief that cannot be made public, and advised of the redaction brief filed.
Appellate/Supreme Case Look-up
This choice by the State imo was an epic fail and imo shows simple continued laziness by the States Atty in Norwalk/Stamford. The tampering hindering charges were quite strong and I am baffled by not appealing. Sadly I think this is just more Corrupticut style justice playing out and is so damn disappointing.I'm thinking MT must be feeling pretty smug about her victories (technical or otherwise) thus far-- including the State dropping its appeal (AC 47734) of Judge Randolph vacating one of her conspiracy to commit evidence tampering charges, and the dismissal of her contempt of court charge. She probably believes the writ of habeas corpus will be her hat trick.
The State probably knows the ropes in CT, and wasn’t being lazy, but more likely practical-you know, like they may have realized that their appeal would go no place, so why expend the energy. They know these judges don’t want to bother with all of the separate charges when they can stick the defendant with one, especially when everything’s going to run concurrently, and the defendant won’t spend another day in jail. I didn’t care so much about the second tampering charge, but I really wanted the judge to stick her with the contempt charge. Not doing so only enboldens people like MT.This choice by the State imo was an epic fail and imo shows simple continued laziness by the States Atty in Norwalk/Stamford. The tampering hindering charges were quite strong and I am baffled by not appealing. Sadly I think this is just more Corrupticut style justice playing out and is so damn disappointing.
Thank you for this info. I hope between now and Friday that the State gets its ducks in a row. I simply do not understand how Atty Bowman doesn't get an opportunity to rebut outright speculation of another attorney as my understanding of the proceeding was that the so called 'expert' was to have reviewed the record (this was not completely done by Fitz as they not only didn't review the entire trial record but they didn't even fully review the Judge Randolph opinions/orders related to suppression or request Atty Bowmans notes or even request to speak with Attorney Bowman). I frankly found the testimony of the so called 'expert' quite disturbing as imo it simply sought to reinvent a history of what happened via connection the dots of missing information using pure speculation and started from the premise that a cooperation agreement was 'best practice' or 'required' for MT to speak with the police. I'm quite baffled by how Atty Bowman can be held responsible for the informed choices of MT and her mother as it was made quite clear to 'tell the truth' and that 'you don't have to speak with police', when the path to some kind of immunity or cooperation agreement was shown quite clearly IN THIS CASE with PG to absolutely not follow the path outlined by the so called 'expert' witness. I would also like to see Colangelo recalled to explain the PG process so that the Judge has that on the record and also a more detailed explanation of his thought process on the MT lying and lack of qualification for a cooperation agreement. This has all been quite disappointing to watch play out and I say that as someone that has zero faith in the pursuit of justice in the State of CT.