Cyndy Short: "I will continue to search for Baby Lisa" PC tomorrow

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I like CS. Sue me.

The only thing I DO resent from her is her not wanting the boys to be interviewed. Interviewing the boys may provide information as to what happened to Baby Lisa that night.

I guess I never really liked her to begin with, but that is beside the point.


I do like you, Ms. Mountain_Kat!! A difference of opinion isn't always a bad thing!
 
  • #123
I truly do not believe she hired JT. I bet he is doing it for free.

I know, but I would not want him. I do not like lawyers who go on TV and lie and also mis-state the facts.

JMO
 
  • #124
Regarding a widespread search for Baby Lisa, we are talking four weeks down the line. This should have been done immediately with the parents leading the search. MOO.

Now, four weeks later CS wants to organize a search. Really???? MOO

These people have been resting on their laurels, for four weeks. That doesn't make me have a lot of sympathy for them. The most they have done is make sure they have a good defense lawyer. This is a circus, and there are too many "acts" to keep up.

How long would it take before a cause of death could be rendered as undetermined, I realize this is a horrible thought, but I post as things come to mind :apologies: I tried to word it as gently as possible.. but another case just makes all of this so Deja Vu to me...I do realize there are many types of scenerios but is 4 weeks long enough in any circumstance? If this is inappropriate, mods please delete!
 
  • #125
So its your opinion that Cyndy Short should do a quiet behind the scene investigation, rather than enlist the public and form a large and widespread search?

That is not what I stated. But it is my opinion that she does not need to hold pressers and be really public about it. I never said the public should not search.

As far as I know, I am a member of the public and I do not like defense lawyers. Never have. That's just me.

JMO
 
  • #126
How long would it take before a cause of death could be rendered as undetermined, I realize this is a horrible thought, but I post as things come to mind :apologies: I tried to word it as gently as possible.. but another case just makes all of this so Deja Vu to me...I do realize there are many types of scenerios but is 4 weeks long enough in any circumstance? If this is inappropriate, mods please delete!

If that baby was placed in the MO. River, she will likely never be found. IMO
 
  • #127
That is not what I stated. But it is my opinion that she does not need to hold pressers and be really public about it. I never said the public should not search.

As far as I know, I am a member of the public and I do not like defense lawyers. Never have. That's just me.

JMO

I tend to agree with you. She has more of "something" on her agenda...she's already stated she wants to continue looking for Lisa. She doesn't need a PC for a confirmation of that; and we know "something" has been going on behind the scenes concerning LE, BS, JT and her.

I'm still on the fence re: BS, he may be just schmoozing it up to the parents since they are so "defensive" with LE and he doesn't want that to happen with him too, imo.
 
  • #128
If that baby was placed in the MO. River, she will likely never be found. IMO

But if she were to be found, would 4 weeks have been long enough that a cause of death will never be known...my line of thought being that now we have attorneys shouting "Let's find Lisa!!" after an awful lot of silence from that camp...their "searching or begging the public and LE to search" was pretty passive imo..can they somehow feel "safe" now..sorry.. better phrasing is just not coming to mind...
 
  • #129
To me, that's a waste of resources. When you've got someone who knows how to be a spokesperson, knows how to arrange press conferences and walk throughs for the media of some of the evidence, why restrict them to hanging flyers? It's kind of like having the company CEO spend his time emptying garbage cans. It's a waste of resources - someone with less talent can do that, more cheaply. Volunteers with no skills at all can hang flyers.

I guess I just wasn't as impressed with her as most here are.

That's just my opinion is all.
 
  • #130
That is not what I stated. But it is my opinion that she does not need to hold pressers and be really public about it. I never said the public should not search.

As far as I know, I am a member of the public and I do not like defense lawyers. Never have. That's just me.

JMO
I hope her presser is about finding baby Lisa and not about rehabilitating her image. Defense lawyers have a negative connotation for a lot of people. But without them, people that are arrested would just be thrown in prison. That wouldn't be too good now would it?
 
  • #131
But if she were to be found, would 4 weeks have been long enough that a cause of death will never be known...my line of thought being that now we have attorneys shouting "Let's find Lisa!!" after an awful lot of silence from that camp...their "searching or begging the public and LE to search" was pretty passive imo..can they somehow feel "safe" now..sorry.. better phrasing is just not coming to mind...

There hasn't been a lot of silence since CS was brought on board. There's been a lot of information, and interviews, and openness. She's been very out front and vocal.
 
  • #132
How long would it take before a cause of death could be rendered as undetermined, I realize this is a horrible thought, but I post as things come to mind :apologies: I tried to word it as gently as possible.. but another case just makes all of this so Deja Vu to me...I do realize there are many types of scenerios but is 4 weeks long enough in any circumstance? If this is inappropriate, mods please delete!

It depends. If the cause of death involves bone damage such as a gunshot wound, stab wounds, damage from a beating with a blunt instrument it will show for a long time, years, even decades, if they find the whole skeleton. Sometimes they find clues from skeletons that are hundreds of years old. If the bones are intact and evidence of the cause of death is only visible on soft tissue which decomposes faster it becomes undetermined sooner.
 
  • #133
I think this is a horrible idea. What if she does form a search group. And what if this search group just happens to find Lisa. (Well that would be a good thing because I want Lisa found).

But, what would stop the parents from saying that they told her where Lisa was? That may have effect any prosecution if they are those responsible.

I'm not saying they are because I haven't made up my mind yet. But, I do not feel this attorney should chance this given the unknown circumstances of this investigation. She should sit back and accept she isn't on the case any longer.
 
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But if she were to be found, would 4 weeks have been long enough that a cause of death will never be known...my line of thought being that now we have attorneys shouting "Let's find Lisa!!" after an awful lot of silence from that camp...their "searching or begging the public and LE to search" was pretty passive imo..can they somehow feel "safe" now..sorry.. better phrasing is just not coming to mind...

IMO if the baby was found dead then one or both parents would be sitting in jail. COD or not, just where she was found is going to mean homicide in most cases. LE is clearly focused on them so doubt they would look for anyone else once they had Lisa's remains unless dna was all over her.
 
  • #135
I think this is a horrible idea. What if she does form a search group. And what if this search group just happens to find Lisa. (Well that would be a good thing because I want Lisa found).

But, what would stop the parents from saying that they told her where Lisa was? That may have effect any prosecution if they are those responsible.

I'm not saying they are because I haven't made up my mind yet. But, I do not feel this attorney should chance this given the unknown circumstances of this investigation. She should sit back and accept she isn't on the case any longer.

BBM If that were to happen, the court would not exclude it. The only thing that would happen is that Cyndy could (WOULD) be investigated for ethics violations by the Bar Association, and almost certainly would lose her license to practice law. She could (possibly - but not definitely) be sued for malpractice, but that would be a stretch.
 
  • #136
I think this is a horrible idea. What if she does form a search group. And what if this search group just happens to find Lisa. (Well that would be a good thing because I want Lisa found).

But, what would stop the parents from saying that they told her where Lisa was? That may have effect any prosecution if they are those responsible.

I'm not saying they are because I haven't made up my mind yet. But, I do not feel this attorney should chance this given the unknown circumstances of this investigation. She should sit back and accept she isn't on the case any longer.
I guess if Cyndy Short personally directs where searches take place it could be a problem.
 
  • #137
It depends. If the cause of death involves bone damage such as a gunshot wound, stab wounds, damage from a beating with a blunt instrument it will show for a long time, years, even decades, if they find the whole skeleton. Sometimes they find clues from skeletons that are hundreds of years old. If the bones are intact and evidence of the cause of death is only visible on soft tissue which decomposes faster it becomes undetermined sooner.

Thanks Donjeta.. is 4 weeks in water enough time, assuming there are no marks on bones...I am cringing as I type this... I should probably just google..but if you know..?
 
  • #138
BBM If that were to happen, the court would not exclude it. The only thing that would happen is that Cyndy could (WOULD) be investigated for ethics violations by the Bar Association, and almost certainly would lose her license to practice law. She could (possibly - but not definitely) be sued for malpractice, but that would be a stretch.

Yep. While she herself might get into trouble, I don't believe the court would exclude the evidence if she finds it.
 
  • #139
I tend to agree with you. She has more of "something" on her agenda...she's already stated she wants to continue looking for Lisa. She doesn't need a PC for a confirmation of that; and we know "something" has been going on behind the scenes concerning LE, BS, JT and her.

I'm still on the fence re: BS, he may be just schmoozing it up to the parents since they are so "defensive" with LE and he doesn't want that to happen with him too, imo.

I agree with everything you stated, hollyblue, except for BS. I really cannot stand that little man! Glad someone likes him, though!
 
  • #140
I guess if Cyndy Short personally directs where searches take place it could be a problem.

Unless she has the inside scoop on whoever it was that answered MW's phone.
 
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