Discussion: Is TH responsible for Kyron's disappearance? #2(POLL ADDED)

[RoughlyCollie]

It could have happened. It's just a terrible plan and a huge risk.

Criminals do not believe, at the time they are committing the crime, that they risk being caught. Every single one of them believes s/he has minimized the risk.

One big difference between a law-abiding citizen and a criminal is the citizen can clearly see the risks, but the criminal convinces himself that he has undertaken a relatively risk-free course of action.

Criminals do not think they will be caught, as irrational as that mindset seems to be to the rest of us. Their motives and their crimes differ, but that one factor remains the same.

Successful criminals (ones who get away with it) are often in that category simply because they got lucky. The question is, how long will their luck hold out?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Yes, angels, that's why the media got hold of that story and hit the ground running is because it was so unbelievable with Kyron missing that Terri should involve herself in whatever/however it got started with this guy, Kaine's friend from high school.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that if I was innocent, wild horses couldn't keep me from trying to prove it. I would volunteer for anything LE wanted me to do and they'd not have to ask me twice. I just didn't get that up front from her why she wasn't coming forth with everything she knew. I have to believe that Desiree and Kaine know her well enough to know that she's not telling everything and that's deceitful. I also trust Tony Young's insight as he's in LE and could see how she was acting which he said was a red flag or two for him.

This innocent little boy has done nothing wrong and deserves to sleep in his own bed knowing he's safe-----finally.

Yes, If a person is innocent they have nothing to hide! It is certainly very odd that she was doing all of that stuff with the guy that she didn't even really know, when her stepson is missing, as she must know that LE suspect something about her involvement with Kyron's disappearance?
A very strange circumstance. If you really loved your child you would be frantic about where he is.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I have been wondering also about Terri selling Kyron to someone? This is another possibility, but i wonder if its a probability? If she did, wouldn't there be a large sum of money from that? And would she be able to hide it somewhere? There are so many variables on this case. If she couldn't give police proper info. on where she was at exactly on the day after dropping Kyron at school, then that is suspect also. Surely she knew that much at least?

 

[Jack]

I must admit that the first time I heard of Kyron Horman's disappearance my first reaction was "oh yeah, step-mom did away with him". But, the way I heard about it was at the office and someone brought it up and said that his step mom had dropped him off at school but he never showed up in class. I only became a fence sitter when I actually heard some of the details. This is because I believe that information taken in the correct context can make 100% difference in how situations are understood/perceived.

Given only the information that Kyron's step-mother said she dropped him off at school but the schools said he never arrived I WOULD think very strongly that she was lying and that the child had never really come close to the school that day. BUT, after I learned of the details... He indeed was actually at the school, TH had gone in with him and was also witnessed inside the school, then numerous possibilities open up that could explain how the child went missing other than just the step-mom did it.

Of course, there is always the possibility of a stranger abduction.

But let's start from the fact that Terri was the last to see Kyron. At least as far as we know.

What we really know is that LE says that TH is the last known person to see Kyron that morning. That is much different that saying it is a fact that TH is the last person to see Kyron. Makes 100% difference in how the situation is percieved. Means there is a definate possibility someone "unknown" was actually the last person to see Kyron that morning.

Then let's compare Terri's behavior with what we might reasonably expect.

What "we" might reasonably expect is very subjective. We like to think of how we would ideally react to a situation. We generally would like to think we would handle everything the way it "should be". Reality is that people do and say some really off the wall things when in stressful situations so for me all "expectations" are out the window.

If someone close to you went missing in the morning, would you be able to give a detailed account of what you'd done and where you been JUST THAT VERY MORNING?

Maybe, maybe not. I'd probably be able to hit on the main points. For example, I did the dishes. I wouldn't be able to tell you how many forks I loaded into the dishwasher. What time I did them or what time it was when I finished.

Is it reasonable to expect that cell phones pings and other evidence could be found to support that data?

This subject is one that I cringe when I hear people talk about. People believe for some reason you can pinpoint a perspn's whereabouts from cell signal triangulation but there are so many many factors involved in being able to come to that conclusion that unless all possibilities are looked at and the theory is backed up by some other solid information (such as a sighting) then cell phone pings in and of themselves don't mean a whole lot. Depending on the technology in use (CDMA, GSM, etc..), and the density of expected useage, cell towers can be spaced very far apart or very close together. And again based upon expected useage a cell tower can be outfitted to handle a large amount of calls or a smaller amount. If for instance you were in a large metro area and you picked up your cell phone to make a call there might be 100 cell sites in your range but if the one closest to you is being used to capacity then your signal may bounce around until it finds an available channel to pick up your call. The fact that your call was picked up by a tower farther away from you doesn't mean you weren't where you said you were. In rural areas cell sites can be far apart so figuring out where a person was in a rural area is going to be much more difficult. In this case since SI is very close to where TH says she was driving/shopping/working out it doesn't seem unusual to me that her cell would ping on SI.

Is it reasonable to expect that your alibi and the data the police find might.... match?

If not, why not?

This goes back to being able to account for everything you did. Some people might be able to, some not. In the amount of time it takes to leave one room and enter another I often forget why I needed to stop what I was doing and go to another room. Just yesterday I was driving somewhere and I completely missed my turn off and so I decided I was going to go ahead and go to another place before I went to the place I had told my family I was going. I felt no need to tell anyone about it and by next week I might not remember it at all so if someone were to ask me or my family member if I went to two different places I or they would say no. Doesn't mean any one of us is lying. And also, we really don't know that TH's "alibi" hasn't been confirmed. She may very well have been everywhere she said she was and that wouldn't really tell us if she was involved or not.

If someone close to you went missing, could you provide a reasonable explanation of why you called your closest friend in the pertinent time frame? Would you expect that your friend could easily explain why that call caused her to leave her job immediately and unexpectedly....if it had NOTHING to do with your call?

If not, why not?

Who said TH called DDS in that timeframe? If she did, how do you know a call from TH is what made DDS leave her workplace? Your questions as worded would lead some to believe these things really happened when in fact there is not one tiny bit of evidence we "sleuthers" have that would suggest that is what happened. Goes back to context, and again the context changes the true meaning 100%.

If someone close to you that you loved went missing, is it reasonable to assume that you would stop cooperate TOTALLY with police, in any and all ways you can... especially if that person is a vulnerable child YOU have raised since an infant and supposedly adore?

According to LE, TH has cooperated. Claiming that TH isn't cooperating is a double entendre on behalf of DY and KH. Based upon their belief that TH is responsible for Kyron's disappearance. But reality is that they don't know as a fact that she is, they just think she is. Take their statements in the correct context and the meaning is completely different than at face value.

Who among us would not cooperate NO MATTER WHAT if this were someone we truly loved? Who among us would put self first before safety of a loved small child?

If not, why not?

I would cooperate. And if I knew I was innocent and after getting my statements LE and my family appeared to be zeroing on me as a suspect I would then do what was neccesary to protect myself as well. There is no shame in looking out for your own interests. Being falsley accused and/or convicted isn't going to make everything better, it would only add to the tragedy. If TH is guilty of this crime then she is acting within her right to a competent defence and to not incriminate herself. Either way, what she is doing currently is in no way unusual.

And in the middle of the horror and grief of a missing loved one, how many of us would be game to send texts of a sexual nature to a new acquaintance?

This is a wild card. Since to me there is no "right" or "expected" reaction to extreme stressful situations I cannot use this as a means to sway my opinion of TH. Personally I don't get the whole sexting thing anyhow, but to each their own. I do know that people do some strange things at the least expected times. A friend of mine once told me about how when she was a young child, probably around 7-8, her big sister was dying of cancer. The disease took its time and essentially ripped the family apart. It seems while his older daughter lay dying, his wife's emotions swinging wildly between overwhelming sadness, fear, hope, defeat, and grief, his younger daughter living in a suspended state of not really understanding what was going on and needing unnderstanding and reassurrance very badly that things were going to eventually be alright again, Daddy began having a torrid sexual affair. I knew this man and it was not at all the reason I expected to hear when I asked my friend why her parents had split up. But we can't alway understand why people handle stress the way they do. I suspect people turning to sexual affairs during times of unbearable stress is the result of sex being a sort of release that your whole being gets involved in and it allows one to remove from their mind what is actually happening in real life.

Finally, if someone close to you went missing, would LS be able to find a person in YOUR life with whom you had discussed killing your husband?

Again, we really don't know the context of the relationship between this person and TH, nor do we know if the claim is even true. So far all we know is that someone says it happened. Perhaps we don't know the whole story yet and taken into the right context we might see a truly different meaning. Maybe TH spurned this guy and he sees making this claim as a way of making her feel as bad as he did. There are some real wackos out there so until someone has some concrete evidence this is not going to sway my opinion about TH. It would appear LE feels the same or she would be in jail where they could moniter her more closely.

The back-story here...the honest answers to how most innocent folks would react...contrasted to Teri's actions...are my reasons for believing as Desiree does..that she is involved in Kyron's disappearance.

We really don't know the back story here, and thats exactly why I'm on the fence.

 

[Tuffy]

I have been wondering also about Terri selling Kyron to someone? This is another possibility, but i wonder if its a probability? If she did, wouldn't there be a large sum of money from that? And would she be able to hide it somewhere? There are so many variables on this case. If she couldn't give police proper info. on where she was at exactly on the day after dropping Kyron at school, then that is suspect also. Surely she knew that much at least?

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I don't think she sold him but people have been known to sell, or try to sell, kids for small amounts of money. Their is a well known case of parents trying to sell a kid for $25. So, no there wouldn't have to be a large amount of cash.

 

[stmarysmead]

I must admit that the first time I heard of Kyron Horman's disappearance my first reaction was "oh yeah, step-mom did away with him". But, the way I heard about it was at the office and someone brought it up and said that his step mom had dropped him off at school but he never showed up in class. I only became a fence sitter when I actually heard some of the details. This is because I believe that information taken in the correct context can make 100% difference in how situations are understood/perceived.

Given only the information that Kyron's step-mother said she dropped him off at school but the schools said he never arrived I WOULD think very strongly that she was lying and that the child had never really come close to the school that day. BUT, after I learned of the details... He indeed was actually at the school, TH had gone in with him and was also witnessed inside the school, then numerous possibilities open up that could explain how the child went missing other than just the step-mom did it.





What we really know is that LE says that TH is the last known person to see Kyron that morning. That is much different that saying it is a fact that TH is the last person to see Kyron. Makes 100% difference in how the situation is percieved. Means there is a definate possibility someone "unknown" was actually the last person to see Kyron that morning.




What "we" might reasonably expect is very subjective. We like to think of how we would ideally react to a situation. We generally would like to think we would handle everything the way it "should be". Reality is that people do and say some really off the wall things when in stressful situations so for me all "expectations" are out the window.




Maybe, maybe not. I'd probably be able to hit on the main points. For example, I did the dishes. I wouldn't be able to tell you how many forks I loaded into the dishwasher. What time I did them or what time it was when I finished.




This subject is one that I cringe when I hear people talk about. People believe for some reason you can pinpoint a perspn's whereabouts from cell signal triangulation but there are so many many factors involved in being able to come to that conclusion that unless all possibilities are looked at and the theory is backed up by some other solid information (such as a sighting) then cell phone pings in and of themselves don't mean a whole lot. Depending on the technology in use (CDMA, GSM, etc..), and the density of expected useage, cell towers can be spaced very far apart or very close together. And again based upon expected useage a cell tower can be outfitted to handle a large amount of calls or a smaller amount. If for instance you were in a large metro area and you picked up your cell phone to make a call there might be 100 cell sites in your range but if the one closest to you is being used to capacity then your signal may bounce around until it finds an available channel to pick up your call. The fact that your call was picked up by a tower farther away from you doesn't mean you weren't where you said you were. In rural areas cell sites can be far apart so figuring out where a person was in a rural area is going to be much more difficult. In this case since SI is very close to where TH says she was driving/shopping/working out it doesn't seem unusual to me that her cell would ping on SI.





This goes back to being able to account for everything you did. Some people might be able to, some not. In the amount of time it takes to leave one room and enter another I often forget why I needed to stop what I was doing and go to another room. Just yesterday I was driving somewhere and I completely missed my turn off and so I decided I was going to go ahead and go to another place before I went to the place I had told my family I was going. I felt no need to tell anyone about it and by next week I might not remember it at all so if someone were to ask me or my family member if I went to two different places I or they would say no. Doesn't mean any one of us is lying. And also, we really don't know that TH's "alibi" hasn't been confirmed. She may very well have been everywhere she said she was and that wouldn't really tell us if she was involved or not.





Who said TH called DDS in that timeframe? If she did, how do you know a call from TH is what made DDS leave her workplace? Your questions as worded would lead some to believe these things really happened when in fact there is not one tiny bit of evidence we "sleuthers" have that would suggest that is what happened. Goes back to context, and again the context changes the true meaning 100%.





According to LE, TH has cooperated. Claiming that TH isn't cooperating is a double entendre on behalf of DY and KH. Based upon their belief that TH is responsible for Kyron's disappearance. But reality is that they don't know as a fact that she is, they just think she is. Take their statements in the correct context and the meaning is completely different than at face value.





I would cooperate. And if I knew I was innocent and after getting my statements LE and my family appeared to be zeroing on me as a suspect I would then do what was neccesary to protect myself as well. There is no shame in looking out for your own interests. Being falsley accused and/or convicted isn't going to make everything better, it would only add to the tragedy. If TH is guilty of this crime then she is acting within her right to a competent defence and to not incriminate herself. Either way, what she is doing currently is in no way unusual.




This is a wild card. Since to me there is no "right" or "expected" reaction to extreme stressful situations I cannot use this as a means to sway my opinion of TH. Personally I don't get the whole sexting thing anyhow, but to each their own. I do know that people do some strange things at the least expected times. A friend of mine once told me about how when she was a young child, probably around 7-8, her big sister was dying of cancer. The disease took its time and essentially ripped the family apart. It seems while his older daughter lay dying, his wife's emotions swinging wildly between overwhelming sadness, fear, hope, defeat, and grief, his younger daughter living in a suspended state of not really understanding what was going on and needing unnderstanding and reassurrance very badly that things were going to eventually be alright again, Daddy began having a torrid sexual affair. I knew this man and it was not at all the reason I expected to hear when I asked my friend why her parents had split up. But we can't alway understand why people handle stress the way they do. I suspect people turning to sexual affairs during times of unbearable stress is the result of sex being a sort of release that your whole being gets involved in and it allows one to remove from their mind what is actually happening in real life.




Again, we really don't know the context of the relationship between this person and TH, nor do we know if the claim is even true. So far all we know is that someone says it happened. Perhaps we don't know the whole story yet and taken into the right context we might see a truly different meaning. Maybe TH spurned this guy and he sees making this claim as a way of making her feel as bad as he did. There are some real wackos out there so until someone has some concrete evidence this is not going to sway my opinion about TH. It would appear LE feels the same or she would be in jail where they could moniter her more closely.





We really don't know the back story here, and thats exactly why I'm on the fence.

Excellent post, Jack. But, once again...this requires in every instance, you give Terri the benefit of the doubt. EVERY TIME.

If we knit all these things together, we have a woman who "appears" to be the last one to see her missing step-child...and is also the "victim" of every other one of these coincidences:

1. Terri is a woman who unfortunately has a terrible memory of things that happened THAT very morning. Remember police were called in the early afternoon.

2. And unfortunately, she also lives in a rural area where her cell phone pings may give a wrong impression of her whereabouts that she again, unfortunately, cannot remember.

3. And gee whiz, that means her story and the stuff the police CAN determine do not jibe, once again, unfortunately for her.

4. And, darn it, other witnesses are saying her best friend just happened to get a call and leave work abruptly in the suspicious time frame she just coincidentally can't remember and those darn cell phone pings are skewing the wrong way.

5. And...actually the police said:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/na...ing_oregon_boy_case/srvc=home&position=recent

"The statement also said the boy’s stepmother - Terri Horman - has sometimes been cooperative with police but other times she has not."

That does not mean "cooperated" as you state...as in "done every darn thing she could." Kind-of half and half.

So here again, Terri is a victim in that she is just trying to protect herself when a small child is missing and everybody is taking this the wrong way.

6. And unlucky Terri is the victim of yet ANOTHER coincidence in that some new acquaintance supposedly has texts of a sexual nature of her as stated in a filed court document...but that is just her way of getting "release" because of all the other coincidences about her bad memory, weird cell pings, friend-leaving-work-in-time-frame, innocent attempts to protect herself, and police saying her cooperation is ...um-m-m-m half-and-half.

7. And if this sext-ing thing weren't the sorriest coincidence of all, ANOTHER man tells police she tried to hire him to kill her husband! After her attempts at sexual release, attempts to protect herself, poor memory, weird actions of friend, living in bad cell phone area, and being called only "sometimes" cooperative, all have cast her in a bad, but wrong light.

This Terri has incredibly bad luck. So innocent , yet ALL these coincidences.

I guess when it takes thinking I have to believe her luck is THAT bad, over and over again...I just can't balance all those coincidences...and fall off the fence.

I won't give any back story...THAT much benefit of the doubt...but, admittedly, I could be wrong. Terri could be just an incredibly unlucky woman.

But not as unlucky as poor little Kyron.

 

[Jack]

Excellent post, Jack. But, once again...this requires in every instance, you give Terri the benefit of the doubt.

Yep, I do give TH the benefit of the doubt. You'll find that a court of law will give her the benefit of the doubt too. I could turn this around and say that in everyone of your points you choose to make each situation look damning for TH without looking at the exculpable possibilities. At issue for me is the ability of people to actually look into the real possibilities and think about what might be the real meaning of something rather than take a little snippit of info based upon someone's opinion and twist it to fit the scenario they want it to fit. Context can change the meaning of anything, and if a person were to only take a statement at face value and believe it as though it were fact then I can see why they would really believe something that isn't neccesarily true. Its a rush to judgement and really its a shame because that is of no benefit to little Kyron either.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Excellent post, Jack. But, once again...this requires in every instance, you give Terri the benefit of the doubt. EVERY TIME.

If we knit all these things together, we have a woman who "appears" to be the last one to see her missing step-child...and is also the "victim" of every other one of these coincidences:

1. Terri is a woman who unfortunately has a terrible memory of things that happened THAT very morning. Remember police were called in the early afternoon.

2. And unfortunately, she also lives in a rural area where her cell phone pings may give a wrong impression of her whereabouts that she again, unfortunately, cannot remember.

3. And gee whiz, that means her story and the stuff the police CAN determine do not jibe, once again, unfortunately for her.

4. And, darn it, other witnesses are saying her best friend just happened to get a call and leave work abruptly in the suspicious time frame she just coincidentally can't remember and those darn cell phone pings are skewing the wrong way.

5. And...actually the police said:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/na...ing_oregon_boy_case/srvc=home&position=recent

"The statement also said the boy’s stepmother - Terri Horman - has sometimes been cooperative with police but other times she has not."

That does not mean "cooperated" as you state...as in "done every darn thing she could." Kind-of half and half.

So here again, Terri is a victim in that she is just trying to protect herself when a small child is missing and everybody is taking this the wrong way.

6. And unlucky Terri is the victim of yet ANOTHER coincidence in that some new acquaintance supposedly has texts of a sexual nature of her as stated in a filed court document...but that is just her way of getting "release" because of all the other coincidences about her bad memory, weird cell pings, friend-leaving-work-in-time-frame, innocent attempts to protect herself, and police saying her cooperation is ...um-m-m-m half-and-half.

7. And if this sext-ing thing weren't the sorriest coincidence of all, ANOTHER man tells police she tried to hire him to kill her husband! After her attempts at sexual release, attempts to protect herself, poor memory, weird actions of friend, living in bad cell phone area, and being called only "sometimes" cooperative, all have cast her in a bad, but wrong light.

This Terri has incredibly bad luck. So innocent , yet ALL these coincidences.

I guess when it takes thinking I have to believe her luck is THAT bad, over and over again...I just can't balance all those coincidences...and fall off the fence.

I won't give any back story...THAT much benefit of the doubt...but, admittedly, I could be wrong. Terri could be just an incredibly unlucky woman.

But not as unlucky as poor little Kyron.

Hitting the thanks button wasn't quite enough, Thanks,great post.

 

[stmarysmead]

Yep, I do give TH the benefit of the doubt. You'll find that a court of law will give her the benefit of the doubt too. I could turn this around and say that in everyone of your points you choose to make each situation look damning for TH without looking at the exculpable possibilities. At issue for me is the ability of people to actually look into the real possibilities and think about what might be the real meaning of something rather than take a little snippit of info based upon someone's opinion and twist it to fit the scenario they want it to fit. Context can change the meaning of anything, and if a person were to only take a statement at face value and believe it as though it were fact then I can see why they would really believe something that isn't neccesarily true. Its a rush to judgement and really its a shame because that is of no benefit to little Kyron either.

I believe that , as in the Scott Peterson case, a court of law may well look at all these things TOGETHER and ask if they might ALL be coincidence. It was ALL the "hinky" things in the Peterson's trial that knit together to convince a jury. His attorney tried to argue against these things piecemeal but the jury rejected his plethora of innocent explanations.

Suppose I leave my opinion out.

I am not "twisting" the fact that , as of now, Terri is the last KNOWN person to see Kyron. I am not "twisting" the police statement about her "cooperation" being partial. I am not "twisting" that a court document asserts that there is someone who alleges she tried to hire him to murder. I am not "twisting" that there is another document that claims she has been involved in sending sexually explicit texts to a new acquaintance very soon after this child disappeared.

What above is just a "snippet of information" twisted to fit a scenario? Instead, I believe it is these things THEMSELVES... grouped together...that CREATE their own scenario. One needn't add an opinion at all. Let them stand on their own.

I've omitted for now the accounts that her story does not match the details the police developed, that fact that she failed (by her own account to Kyron's parents)... two lie detector tests, and that accounts say her friend left her job on the day Kyron disappeared unexpectedly. If ALL this is also added...the scenario of guilt becomes even stronger.

It is not a "rush to judgment"...if this is indeed the case as it is reported developing. And developing the case, is the best way any of us have now...of helping Kyron.

Please show me in what I stated above what I have "twisted" because I would like to be fair and to understand.

I believe most here would do anything to help Kyron or any child.

In my opinion, (and here I'm admitting this is opinion) it is sad that the woman who put him to bed every night since he was two, who knows him intimately, has a million memories of him in her mind...is not , according to LE assisting 100% for Kyron in their estimation.

 

[Chablis]

In my opinion, (and here I'm admitting this is opinion) it is sad that the woman who put him to bed every night since he was two, who knows him intimately, has a million memories of him in her mind...is not , according to LE assisting 100% for Kyron in their estimation.

Susan Smith also put her children to bed every night, and they were her own biological children and she watched them roll into a lake. It is sad what some people are capable of. Just when you think it cant get any worse, these stories come along, its heartbreaking.

jmo

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I just find it remarkable that TH was the last person to see Kyron? Didn't she drop him at the school? Surely other people at the school must of seen him too? I wonder if anyone remembers seeing Kyron after TH left the school? I am not real clear exactly what TH did upon taking him to school. They had the science fair, and didn't she take a photo of him there? Then what? Did she leave after that? Did she drive him to school or did he catch the bus and she drove to the school to deliver his science project?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Susan Smith also put her children to bed every night, and they were her own biological children and she watched them roll into a lake. It is sad what some people are capable of. Just when you think it cant get any worse, these stories come along, its heartbreaking.

jmo

Yes, i agree, it is heartbreaking. It is horrific what people do with their children. I am sure some of these people just go about like they are quite "normal", and then does something just snap in their minds? It is so difficult to comprehend. Any normal loving parent couldn't fathom what makes these people tick!
I remember seeing a case a while back, where a mother took her two daughters to an abandoned farm house, and said she had a "surprise" for them! She shot both of her daughters, one died and the other survived. She was the bio mother, but had lost custody, and was on an access visit with her children when this tragedy occurred!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree with all your points but especially these.

I realize it may not be politically correct to judge TH for this whole sexting thing, but I think it is bizarre. Her actions go way beyond flirting and some of it was still going on during the search for Kyron when she was supposedly grieving as much as Kyron's other parents - that is a huge red flag.

The logical conclusion is that this wasn't a cohesive family at all, and that Terri was trying to move on with her life, and therefore, being Kyron's stepmother really didn't mean anything to her. We can't really have it both ways - she was a loving wife&mother AND she was sexting with men she hardly knew.

We can debate just what did matter to her (money? being seen naked?) but being a stepmom to this little boy was not her top priority, in my opinion.

While I would certainly never do the things that we have heard that Terri did, I am not sure I can judge others on how they may act in certain situations.

I have heard of men and women who lost their long term spouse who wound up having sex with one of their best friends shortly after the funeral. That is absolutely unfathomable to me but when someone is sad and are in very stressful situations, I don't think some people's behaviors are predictable. Maybe it is to escape reality.

Until I see that she was also doing this with the LS too I will wait until the evidence comes forward on that. If she promised the LS sex for a hit on Kaine and that was the deal then the hit would have been carried out, imo.

I believe something very serious happened in the Horman household around December 2009. It has been hinted that maybe there was an affair that did not involve Terri so this bizarre behavior of sexting could have been nothing more than wanting to feel that she was still desirable to a man and wanting to feel she could play the field too. Before then I do believe they were a pretty cohesive family.

After Kaine moved out and took their child I feel she did the sexting with MC in order to prove to Kaine she no longer wanted or needed him. She had to know LE was watching her closely and who was hanging around her. Imo, she knew this would get back to Kaine.

I remember when Cynthia Somer's husband (her night in shinning armor, so she said) suddenly died. Instead of being a grieving widow outwardly she was going to wet T shirt contests and having sex with multiple people right after he died.


IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Susan Smith also put her children to bed every night, and they were her own biological children and she watched them roll into a lake. It is sad what some people are capable of. Just when you think it cant get any worse, these stories come along, its heartbreaking.

jmo

More biological mothers kill their children than those who have no biological link to the child.

IMO

 

[Chablis]

More biological mothers kill their children than those who have no biological link to the child.

IMO

True, but its not out of the realm that a step parent kills as well, it happens everyday in this country.

 

[Mamietwo]

I just find it remarkable that TH was the last person to see Kyron? Didn't she drop him at the school? Surely other people at the school must of seen him too? I wonder if anyone remembers seeing Kyron after TH left the school? I am not real clear exactly what TH did upon taking him to school. They had the science fair, and didn't she take a photo of him there? Then what? Did she leave after that? Did she drive him to school or did he catch the bus and she drove to the school to deliver his science project?

I think the information we have so far is:

1) science project was already at the school the day before
2) Terri drove Kyron to the science fair and there were children that saw both of them, one child in particular who spoke once and has not spoken again
3) Terri took a pic of Kyron with his science project and then took another pic of Kyron's friend with the project
4) Terri says she waved goodbye to Kyron when he told her he was going to class, but we only have Terri's word for that
5) We do not know if Terri left then
6) Kyron's back pack and jacket were in his classroom but could have been put there when he first got to school and before Terri took the pictures

My theory is that she intended to again cause confusion (like she did with Kaine on when the science project could be picked up) with the teacher on Kyron's doctor appointment as the teacher said Terri said it was on the 4th.** Then Terri asked Kyron to go to the truck either to retrieve something for her, or telling him she was taking him somewhere for a surprise and in this way they would not be seen together leaving the school.

**Information early on was that Terri had said the doctor appointment was on the 11th, the following Friday. Nothing has been confirmed on the appointment---LE probably knows but we do not. Kaine had said in one of his interviews that he wasn't sure about the doctor appointment.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

True, but its not out of the realm that a step parent kills as well, it happens everyday in this country.

I am not sure step parents kill their step children everyday in this country but there is way too many murders of all children.

IMO

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

While I would certainly never do the things that we have heard that Terri did, I am not sure I can judge others on how they may act in certain situations.

I have heard of men and women who lost their long term spouse who wound up having sex with one of their best friends shortly after the funeral. That is absolutely unfathomable to me but when someone is sad and are in very stressful situations, I don't think some people's behaviors are predictable. Maybe it is to escape reality.

Until I see that she was also doing this with the LS too I will wait until the evidence comes forward on that. If she promised the LS sex for a hit on Kaine and that was the deal then the hit would have been carried out, imo.

I believe something very serious happened in the Horman household around December 2009. It has been hinted that maybe there was an affair that did not involve Terri so this bizarre behavior of sexting could have been nothing more than wanting to feel that she was still desirable to a man and wanting to feel she could play the field too. Before then I do believe they were a pretty cohesive family.

After Kaine moved out and took their child I feel she did the sexting with MC in order to prove to Kaine she no longer wanted or needed him. She had to know LE was watching her closely and who was hanging around her. Imo, she knew this would get back to Kaine.

I remember when Cynthia Somer's husband (her night in shinning armor, so she said) suddenly died. Instead of being a grieving widow outwardly she was going to wet T shirt contests and having sex with multiple people right after he died.


IMO

You make a good point here. I also think that initially these two entered into an affair, regardless of the reason, KH, was with TH on an in intimate level, and then their relationship went from just a fling, to something more permanent. Guess it was ok. while it was an affair. Then living with him she may have had doubts about his fidelity. He had after all cheated on a spouse with her. Does a "leopard change its spots"? Usually not!
I understand when you say about people whose spouse dies. I have personally experienced this, and there is this big shock about the fragility of our life. We have this almost a compulsion to get in as much living as we can, just in case.
I didn't realise that TH was doing the sexting thing after Kaine had moved out, but what you say is plausible. She probably felt abandoned by him and needed someone to believe in her? Maybe in our eyes or to our way of thinking this was bizarre behaviour, but what's to say what is normal in such a horrible situation?

 

[Chablis]

You make a good point here. I also think that initially these two entered into an affair, regardless of the reason, KH, was with TH on an in intimate level, and then their relationship went from just a fling, to something more permanent. Guess it was ok. while it was an affair. Then living with him she may have had doubts about his fidelity. He had after all cheated on a spouse with her. Does a "leopard change its spots"? Usually not!
I understand when you say about people whose spouse dies. I have personally experienced this, and there is this big shock about the fragility of our life. We have this almost a compulsion to get in as much living as we can, just in case.
I didn't realise that TH was doing the sexting thing after Kaine had moved out, but what you say is plausible. She probably felt abandoned by him and needed someone to believe in her? Maybe in our eyes or to our way of thinking this was bizarre behaviour, but what's to say what is normal in such a horrible situation?

Where is it being reported Kaine cheated on Terri? And maybe Terri had issues, but sexting after a little boy that was last known with you, that should be worrying, but everyone reacts differently, if Terri thought sexting would make her feel better, who are we to judge?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I am not sure step parents kill their step children everyday in this country but there is way too many murders of all children.

IMO

This is the saddest part of our society. Once there is a society that can no longer protect the innocent and vulnerable, that society has broken down irretrievably. By this i also might add the elderly and frail, because they are just as vulnerable as the young.