Ebola outbreak - general thread #7

[faw720]

It was a stupid decision for the school to post that.

The risk is very very slight if there is any risk at all, more importantly they are NOT going to do anything about it, so why stress the parents out by posting that?

It suggests to me that there is still a whiff of panic in the air. Of course I don't know but I assume that the school was afraid that the kid would talk to other kids about going on the cruise, then kids would go home & tell their parents & then here comes the panic. Parents would be screaming at the school because they weren't notified. Human nature is a very strange thing.

 

[Sonya610]

It suggests to me that there is still a whiff of panic in the air. Of course I don't know but I assume that the school was afraid that the kid would talk to other kids about going on the cruise, then kids would go home & tell their parents & then here comes the panic. Parents would be screaming at the school because they weren't notified. Human nature is a very strange thing.

Ahhh! Great point! Of course the kid will talk so it makes sense for the school to tell the situation ahead of time. (I don't have kids).

 

[SteveS]

Honestly I have to the question the judgement regarding the decision to release info. Then again they didn't mention the child's name, although how many kids take a week off this time of year???

Unfortunately, in the current climate, over-disclosure and over-explanation is the requirement for those in charge when there's even a remote brush against something ebola-related.

There's no backlash for "Okay, I didn't need to know that." But there might be if word gets around that a student was on The Ebola Cruise Ship (cue the eerie music) and rumors begin that the cruise student was let back in school, admins knew about it, and "THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KIDS BEING PROTECTED!!!"

 

[WichitaFalls]

Just a question... Would you try on one of the dresses there or buy one, knowing A tried them on? Guess I would go elsewhere. Sad, but that's reality.

Yes I would.

 

[Sonya610]

Unfortunately, in the current climate, over-disclosure and over-explanation is the requirement for those in charge when there's even a remote brush against something ebola-related.

There's no backlash for "Okay, I didn't need to know that." But there might be if word gets around that a student was on The Ebola Cruise Ship (cue the eerie music) and rumors begin that the cruise student was let back in school, admins knew about it, and "THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KIDS BEING PROTECTED!!!"

You are right.

On that note I really do think there is something up with Nina's boyfriend. Spidey senses tell me so.

If I am right....well usually nay sayers disappear from threads when evidence proves them wrong.

 

[nomoresorrow]

Just a question... Would you try on one of the dresses there or buy one, knowing A tried them on? Guess I would go elsewhere. Sad, but that's reality.

I would have no issue going there and trying on dresses, so long as the actual dresses she tried on were disposed of and the facility was thoroughly cleaned with a bleach solution. JMO ~

 

[faw720]

I've just been listening to the 4pm news on nbcdfw. Reporters have been interviewing parents of kids in the affected Dallas schools. They say they have interviewed about 20 parents. Approximately half were ok with their kids being in school with the quarantined kids, the other half were not happy about it. Human nature at its finest.

 

[nomoresorrow]

Ohio bridal shop:

http://wqad.com/2014/10/20/ebola-fears-bring-chaos-to-ohio-bridal-shop/

"The Younkers say a team spent about five hours performing the service free of charge." That's amazing!

 

[jjenny]

I've just been listening to the 4pm news on nbcdfw. Reporters have been interviewing parents of kids in the affected Dallas schools. They say they have interviewed about 20 parents. Approximately half were ok with their kids being in school with the quarantined kids, the other half were not happy about it. Human nature at its finest.

I personally would not be o'key with it, because of the study that showed that in rare cases Ebola can develop after 21 days.
It might be a low chance, but it's not a zero chance.

 

[Ruby]

Why is it a problem or considered overkill for a 3 week quarantine to protect the rest of your life?

If the only way to kill this very serious disease is to let it die off on its own - then do so.

Any one with a chance of having it should be quarantined and monitored in a humane and protective way.

It may be a hassle, but in reality having ebola is more of a hassle - and I would think that one should err on the side of caution.
Especially in this type of situation - I'm in favor of quarantining (is that a word?) flights or banning the flight to begin with, and
quarantine the individuals if they are from an infected area. It may not be a popular opinion but it is mine.

If quarantine and let the disease extinguish itself is going to be a way of stopping it,
why continue with a chance of spreading it to parts of the world or to people all over.

Just think if Duncan was quarantined from his flight, or because of his original location and was monitored and cared for,
would we be in this situation with more sick people and the chance of the wide spread epidemic. I value life, and if that
would mean making someone wait 21days to see if they will have a dangerous and deadly disease, so be it. If in that time
they were to come down with it, at least they know they could be getting help for it right at the onset. And if they don't have it,
Great, carry on. What did they lose, only some time, not their life.

All just my opinion, and I know it may not be others but that's ok - I just needed to state my own. I'm not looking for any
answers to my questions they were rhetorical anyway, sorry to interrupt but taking precaution is not necessarily panic.

 

[Sonya610]

Just a question... Would you try on one of the dresses there or buy one, knowing A tried them on? Guess I would go elsewhere. Sad, but that's reality.

If I could get it at a good price yeah, I would.

Full price? I would go to the non-potentialy-infected store. LOL. I don't know the owner, so all things being equal I would shop someplace else if I were a bride. Brides are superstitious.

 

[jjenny]

If I could get it at a good price yeah, I would.

Full price? I would go to the non-cleaned/infected store. LOL.

I think after all this UV cleaning it's the cleanest store in OH.
Also, apparently Amber was not trying on dresses there, her bridesmaids did.

 

[chipmunk]

NEJM Live Audio Webcast on Ebola Outbreak, Oct 22, 2:00 to 3:30 Pm ET

http://www.jwatch.org/fw109428/2014/10/20/nejm-live-audio-webcast-ebola-outbreak?query=pfw

Experts discuss virology, epidemiology and clinical care.
I don't see any cost or restrictions such as membership to register.

MSF (Doctors Without Borders) public health specialist who recently returned from Liberia
Paul Farmer, Partners In Health
Director of Strategy, WHO
NEJM Editors
Other MD speakers

 

[atthelake]

"The Younkers say a team spent about five hours performing the service free of charge." That's amazing!

Advertising and marketing for the ultraviolet disinfection company ..Priceless

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[Donjeta]

It even outdistances the Mississippi school which cancelled classes because the principal had visited Zambia (about 3000 miles from the nearest Ebola outbreak -- a link to that sad silly tale [wapt.com, w/video] ).

Hmm that might have been a good chance to teach the kids (and parents) some geography.

It's about the same distance from Zambia to Sierra Leone or Liberia as it's from Mississippi to northern Brazil or Yukon

 

[nrdsb4]

I personally would not be o'key with it, because of the study that showed that in rare cases Ebola can develop after 21 days.
It might be a low chance, but it's not a zero chance.

That's relevant for the healthcare worker, but totally irrelevant to the people on the cruise ship. We know she had no detectable ebola in her blood because she was tested for it. Therefore, she could NOT have infected anyone on that ship.

ETA: SORRY. I thought you were referring to the cruise ship pax. My mistake.

 

[Lyra500]

C4 News interview from tonight's show with Dr Louise Baxter who has been in Liberia and Sierra Leone with Save the Children.

Follow this link and then click on: 'This is a generation of doctors you won't get back' from the icons along the bottom.

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/

She talks about the loneliness and struggle with not being able to touch patients as part of the care she could offer.

 

[nomoresorrow]

Advertising and marketing for the ultraviolet disinfection company ..Priceless

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Well yeah, but it's still nice that they didn't charge when they could have...

 

[CARIIS]

This story hits me a an angle. People are dying over there daily from this horrible disease. But casue she was a UN wroker her death deserves a article? Media media

http://news.yahoo.com/third-un-employee-dies-ebola-spokesman-165948015.html

 

[lonetraveler]

I just watched Greta Sustren on Fox news put on a haz mat protection suit under the supervision of an expert on those things. That said I want to tell y'all about my experience putting on haz mat protection suits. When I was around 28 yrs. old I had to work for a couple of months during a maintenance shutdown at a Nuclear Power Plant. After classes on radiation safety and an exam, I had to go through a class where I was taught how to don a Hazmat protection suit. I've got to say that it is very difficult. And I've also got to say that you ladies will appreciate this but of course as soon as I completed dressing out (as it was called) and walked three city blocks to the work area, I always had to go to the bathroom. Go figure, right? I then had to walk back and go through undressing, and redressing all over again. Unfortunately after putting in a twelve hour night shift and dressing in civilian clothes and walking through a monitoring turnstile the alarms would go off (scaring me to death) and the gates would close, locking you in a small area. This meant that you showed up "hot". Hot meaning over the limits for radiation exposure. Immediately I would be surrounded by people dressed out in Hazmat equipment and be escorted to the decontamination area to be put through decontamination. I shiver to think that I would most likely be in the hospital fighting for my life if I had been working with ebola patients. Many time I would be there for hours, being scrubbed down, clothes taken and one time, my hair cut off.

An investigation revealed that an elderly gentleman working on the shutdown thought that he could just wipe down a piece of equipment to get rid of the radiation and just hand it to me to store in the equipment locker, exposing me to radiation every single day.

I had to lie in a coffin-like container to have radiation counted for months.