UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #2

[branmuffin]

I don’t know I guess I find myself wondering if they went there at the 2ish pm range for something but should have been the 2ish am range. Unlikely like I said.

I also think they got the time wrong the first time.

 

[ShastaDaisy]

If they truly were saving up money to buy a property where is it? Is it in a bank? Or did they have it stuffed under their mattress? Maybe I'm reading too much into it but the savings issue is important. The family say they were saving up to buy a property but were unaware that they planned on moving out. If you die intestate in Scotland and you have no spouse or children, the money is divided between the parents first but it can be a long process. Show me the money.

Maybe they had money in that cross body bag. It's seeming more unlikely but it's still a possibility.
Just my opinion

 

[branmuffin]

All activity in and out of the harbour is monitored so i don't think an unapproved watercraft could have come from that direction. I don't think I've ever seen private vessels on the river dee, its used mainly by rowers.
I think their behaviour could indicate some type of threat, whether that may be actual threat or perceived threat. By perceived threat I think I'm referring to a feeling of threat or paranoia caused by mental ill health.

What do you mean by unapproved watercraft? Commercial vessels or private little runabouts? Or both and everything in between?

 

[Teche]

The presence of bulky rucksacks does give some clue that the sisters were somehow on the move and not planning to end their lives. However, genuinely the area behind the path is full of overgrown bushes and a very high wall, and I don’t see how they could have cut through that. Behind that area is a long street with fish houses, car repair garages and storage, no side streets for cars. I’m reliably told there is a lot of cctv on that road due to break ins and any footage will have been studied. Especially recorded at 2am and in knowledge of what subsequently happened.

I am here because unfortunately in 2014 I discovered my sister was the subject of a Websleuth thread. She disappeared into thin air on January 21st. While desperately looking for anything I chanced on her name in this website. I was comforted that so many people were actively concerned, even out of simple curiosity….and perhaps finding leads that the police could not. It gave me great comfort. Sadly, her body was found two month later and the verdict was suicide, which the family had said from the start. I was at the sharp end, and know a bit about protocol after a person has been reported missing. MOO, but I do think this is either a terrible accident like Nicola Bulley, or a double suicide. Interestingly, my sister took a large rucksack when she left the house to end her life.

Hugs!

 

[branmuffin]

I cannot understand why, if suicide, their final act on this earth was to send a text message to their landlady, and it was so important that they took one phone with them to do so. Neither of them told work they were leaving (annual leave is only temporary), so it’s not that they were fully preparing for their departure.

I have a theory about that. But it's staying a theory for now.

I'm not throwing in the towel just yet.

Why LE jumped on this case has yet to be established ...

A 2am text by the landlady (who rings the police and says, "My tenants just told me via text that they're vacating the unit. I went round and found ...
... Materials."

I interpret their earlier stroll on the path as them coming home from work. Or...

Evidence please.

Sounds very hinky to me.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

For two 32 year old women they sure keep in contact with their parents and siblings a lot. That's what we keeping hearing; they are in constant contact with their family weekly, sometimes even more so. Since Scotland is no longer in the EU I doubt they are getting free calls. Maybe it's me, but I find that a little excessive. They appear to work minimum wage jobs so if they are socking money away to buy a property calling home all the time sounds weird to me. Wouldn't it be simpler to send emails? I have a sister in the UK and we email each other. It would cost us a fortune to be calling a couple of times a week.

Snipped by me.
I don't think it's excessive. They're in a foreign country, maybe their family just want to check in to make sure they're OK. Every family is different. I see some grown daughters who appear joined at the hip with their mothers, calling them their best friend, texting or calling multiple times a day. (To me, that's excessive) Others have no contact at all. They last spoke with the other triplet around the new year - not at all odd to wish your siblings a happy new year. It seems she wasn't in phone contact with them again before they disappeared, which was about a week it seems. The mother last spoke to them on the Saturday prior I believe, so seems like it wasn't a daily thing. Not sure about the brother. Maybe they were all in a group chat of some sort online, maybe they followed each other on socials, maybe not. I live in the same city as my mother (who's on her own now) and I call once a week, sometimes more. It really comes down to the individual family, and their circumstances. In this instance, they can't visit each other often and being that they live in different countries, checking in and hearing their voices is a reasonable thing to do IMHO.

 

[Cardgame]

But the third party would need to know they were renting and who the landlord was (I suppose Im presuming they would have the landlord in as a name rather than landlord) and why, if they were texting the landlord so as not to arouse suspicion, would they not text the family ?

I have been pondering this.

Wondering if the landlady could be in their phone as 'home' or something.

But to be honest, the text message is the thing that aroused suspicion. Without it, they might not even have been missed yet. What kind of third party would be motivated to send it and why?

Then again, I can't quite work out why the sisters sent it either. I would be interested to know what the relationship with the landlady was like. I have a feeling it was either rather good, ie they were quite good friends, or acrimonious, ie she was kicking them out. Feels like one or the other for them to think of her in that moment.

 

[branmuffin]

BREXIT

brexit.kormany.hu

I posted that in the last thread. I think it could be integral to their disappearance.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

The presence of bulky rucksacks does give some clue that the sisters were somehow on the move and not planning to end their lives. However, genuinely the area behind the path is full of overgrown bushes and a very high wall, and I don’t see how they could have cut through that. Behind that area is a long street with fish houses, car repair garages and storage, no side streets for cars. I’m reliably told there is a lot of cctv on that road due to break ins and any footage will have been studied. Especially recorded at 2am and in knowledge of what subsequently happened.

I am here because unfortunately in 2014 I discovered my sister was the subject of a Websleuth thread. She disappeared into thin air on January 21st. While desperately looking for anything I chanced on her name in this website. I was comforted that so many people were actively concerned, even out of simple curiosity….and perhaps finding leads that the police could not. It gave me great comfort. Sadly, her body was found two month later and the verdict was suicide, which the family had said from the start. I was at the sharp end, and know a bit about protocol after a person has been reported missing. MOO, but I do think this is either a terrible accident like Nicola Bulley, or a double suicide. Interestingly, my sister took a large rucksack when she left the house to end her life.

I'm so sorry for your loss, I wish your presence here was under better circumstances. Thank you for your perspective.

 

[RobinCAL]

Police thank public for responding to appeals for information​

Police Scotland continue to appeal for the public’s help finding Eliza and Henrietta Huszti.
Superintendent David Howieson said: “We have had a positive response from the public to our appeals and I would like to thank everyone who has already come forward.

Aberdeen sisters’ eerie final message sent at time of last sighting revealed: Live

Police Scotland continue major search for triplets Eliza and Henrietta Huszti as family issue desperate plea saying ‘all we want is for them to be found’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[HoneyBunOne]

"Mental health" services can't always solve people's problems. There seems to be an assumption that everything can be cured or treated, but in some cases unhappiness or despair is so extreme that a person simply wants to stop living.

This makes me wonder. What was it that they found?

Six clues that could help cops find missing twin sisters after fresh sighting

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti, both aged 32, were last seen on CCTV walking through Aberdeen in the early hours of January 7 and now the search for them has entered an 11th day

www.mirror.co.uk

I think perhaps the circumstances were that the sisters had given notice they had vacated/wouldn't be back (at around 2am which is odd in itself) yet all their belongings were there, perhaps untouched like they'd just left for work and would be back.

 

[branmuffin]

No I don’t think so.

“It emerged that a text message was sent from Henrietta’s mobile phone to the sisters’ landlady at 2.12am on 7 January, from the area of Victoria Bridge, indicating they would not be returning to the flat.”

The mystery of the missing Huszti sisters: Aberdeen bridge CCTV and abandoned tenancy

A body has now been recovered from a river near where the two missing sisters were last seen in Aberdeen

www.independent.co.uk

I'd like to know the last time the sisters texted each other.

 

[TMich6811]

Police thank public for responding to appeals for information​

Police Scotland continue to appeal for the public’s help finding Eliza and Henrietta Huszti.
Superintendent David Howieson said: “We have had a positive response from the public to our appeals and I would like to thank everyone who has already come forward.

Aberdeen sisters’ eerie final message sent at time of last sighting revealed: Live

Police Scotland continue major search for triplets Eliza and Henrietta Huszti as family issue desperate plea saying ‘all we want is for them to be found’

www.independent.co.uk

I wonder who all has came forward.

My overall thoughts for the day:

I was hoping for some new info today.

I think it’s likely they sent the text. What or why I’m not sure about but given it was sent where they were seen at that exact time, it’s fair to say it’s positive they sent it.

And then threw their phone in the water if they are alive would be my guess.

I think they were at the bridge earlier either because it was the wrong time or because they were scoping it out to make sure whatever plan was executed correctly.

Not sure what plan was - I find it interesting that we are hearing more info of Torry and additional reasons they would be heading that direction (negative reasons or just social reasons).

I still kind of feel like they were heading to the boat club. I’m sure they could see it from the bridge earlier day, maybe checking to see if someone was there.

I’m not convinced suicide. I won’t be until we are told evidence of suicide because I think everyone deserves a fighting chance and not just a write off of suicide because we’ve decided with no evidence they are in the water. So I hope if we reach that point, they have concrete information.

But if they have concrete info why not just release that. Also why say they don’t suspect self harm. Also why continue to interview people? I mean this gently but who cares if 20,000 people saw them walking if we know concretely it was suicide?

I don’t know. It all feels weird.

Re: facial differences - I think it’s cosmetic filler.

 

[Marie A]

The presence of bulky rucksacks does give some clue that the sisters were somehow on the move and not planning to end their lives. However, genuinely the area behind the path is full of overgrown bushes and a very high wall, and I don’t see how they could have cut through that. Behind that area is a long street with fish houses, car repair garages and storage, no side streets for cars. I’m reliably told there is a lot of cctv on that road due to break ins and any footage will have been studied. Especially recorded at 2am and in knowledge of what subsequently happened.

I am here because unfortunately in 2014 I discovered my sister was the subject of a Websleuth thread. She disappeared into thin air on January 21st. While desperately looking for anything I chanced on her name in this website. I was comforted that so many people were actively concerned, even out of simple curiosity….and perhaps finding leads that the police could not. It gave me great comfort. Sadly, her body was found two month later and the verdict was suicide, which the family had said from the start. I was at the sharp end, and know a bit about protocol after a person has been reported missing. MOO, but I do think this is either a terrible accident like Nicola Bulley, or a double suicide. Interestingly, my sister took a large rucksack when she left the house to end her life.

Thank you for this very thoughtful insightful and candid response.
I am so very sorry that you lost your sister in such a sad way.
I agree with your conclusion about what happened to the sisters.

With regards to the rucksacks- if I’m not mistaken the sisters wore them in the earlier daytime photo when walking onto the Victoria bridge but did not wear them that fateful night when they disappeared.

All IMHO

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I don't know....it just seems a bit convenient. If they were entering a suicide pact why not just go to the site and get on with it? It's a little suspect that they went to the same place just 12 hours earlier during daylight hours as if they were on a reconnoitre for a future meet up. Check out the location just to get their bearings, get the lay of the land, etc. Or whether they got the time wrong, since the day before they disappeared they had backpacks with them.

I now wonder whether the text message sent at 2 am was actually sent by them. Anyone could have sent it. It's just becoming more suspect to me that there was no suicide pact, that everything we are hearing about their last couple of days is from the landlady.

I guess you could say they were scoping it out in daylight, to see how secluded it was, if there were cameras etc and make sure it was the perfect spot. Doing the deed in daylight hours would mean no privacy, and possible witnesses, who would likely try to intervene. One sister finished work at around 1pm, so I guess the timing is kind of right to be there when they were during daylight hours. I also wondered if they sent the message themselves, but I can't see why anyone else would do that, given that we have no evidence of anyone else around at the time, AFAIK.

That third party potentially would need to know the code to unlock phone if locked though.

Not if it has face recognition, or a fingerprint required to open it.

 

[Bigditch]

I wonder if the landlady looked after the entire complex?

 

[UK Girl]

I guess you could say they were scoping it out in daylight, to see how secluded it was, if there were cameras etc and make sure it was the perfect spot. Doing the deed in daylight hours would mean no privacy, and possible witnesses, who would likely try to intervene. One sister finished work at around 1pm, so I guess the timing is kind of right to be there when they were during daylight hours. I also wondered if they sent the message themselves, but I can't see why anyone else would do that, given that we have no evidence of anyone else around at the time, AFAIK.

Not if it has face recognition, or a fingerprint required to open it.

Yeah but it was said anyone could have said it ok - Not sure how it works but surely it would have to be their finger print or face for the recognition and not some random persons?

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I posted that in the last thread. I think it could be integral to their disappearance.

Wouldn't all the loose ends re Brexit be tied up by now? The article you posted states a date in 2021 as the cut off. Are you suggesting they maybe didn't (or couldn't) do all the paperwork required, and perhaps this had caught up with them? Were they maybe going to be deported, would it have come to that?

 

[UK Girl]

So my two theories are that if they are in the river they didn't go willingly. Either misadventure or a malign interference. If they aren't in the river than I believe their absences are voluntary.

For two 32 year old women they sure keep in contact with their parents and siblings a lot. That's what we keeping hearing; they are in constant contact with their family weekly, sometimes even more so. Since Scotland is no longer in the EU I doubt they are getting free calls. Maybe it's me, but I find that a little excessive. They appear to work minimum wage jobs so if they are socking money away to buy a property calling home all the time sounds weird to me. Wouldn't it be simpler to send emails? I have a sister in the UK and we email each other. It would cost us a fortune to be calling a couple of times a week.

What do we know about their private lives? Do they have friends, boyfriends? Do they belong to some social club? Maybe transplanted Hungarians? How well do they converse in English? They've lived there for 10 years according to some news outlets and as little as 7 in others. Some people pick up languages easily and others don't. Is English difficult for a Hungarian to learn? I worked with a woman whose husband couldn't get the hang of the English language. He was a well educated man but consistently pronounce hard C's as Ch as in cheese and and pronounce every vowel and consonants. For Cambridge, he'd say Chambridga. He couldn't keep up with the language. Being a maid you don't really need to interact with the public.

Have they orchestrated their own disappearance for their own reasons?

It could be free watsapp calls or something similar.

 

[UK Girl]

Wouldn't all the loose ends re Brexit be tied up by now? The article you posted states a date in 2021 as the cut off. Are you suggesting they maybe didn't (or couldn't) do all the paperwork required, and perhaps this had caught up with them? Were they maybe going to be deported, would it have come to that?

At this point no not if they were still working here.